Mole Remedies: Q&A
Last Modified on Mar 30, 2008
I have been reading many of your posts on earthclinic and I am fascinated with your theories about moles....let me give you a little bit of background information, and if you don't mind, I have a few questions for you.
As a child I had many moles...I started to really notice them about the age of 9 or 10...I had some removed at the dermatologists office (one in the middle of my back which left a huge keloid scar)....
anyway, with all of the benefits of the sun, I would like to continue going in the sun, but I do not want to get more moles, or scars from their removal....I understand you say that moles are "fungal armor" and I am very curious about that...
do you think that moles are potentially a candida problem or some other type of fungus (are there other types that could lead to it)???? How would you go about getting rid of this "fungus"??? Also, do you think that foods we eat have to do with the moles we get (for example, foods high in tyrosine or phenylanalanine)???? I understand that these two amino acids are involved in the process of pigmentation of the skin, but does ingesting foods like bananas, oatmeal, avocados (high in tyrosine) or artificial sweeteners (high in phenylalanine) cause the body to produce more moles or is it strictly a fungus problem?????
Now as for the scars, what do you recommend for keloids(particularly the one in the middle of my back)??? What do you think about DMSO??? is it true that it will eventually get rid of the keloid??? is there any way to have skin that appears as if there was never a scar?????
'Thank you so much for your time
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: The reason why I think moles are fungus is it stays on the body for a long time, its characteristic in accumulating melanin, or depleting melanin, and its eventual spread can become cancer has some characteristics of a fungus. Certain nutrition that support cancer and make it worse are aspartame, hydrocarbon, the spraying of bioengineered virus and bacteria in our foods, excessive calcium, fluoride and other artificial sweeteners, and white flour for example.
The keloids scaring can be reduced rather slowly many ways. Dermatologist uses 5-10% salicylic acid, for example. I used a more conservative 50-80% DMSO solution and rubbed at the area of keloid scars, so this may take longer. DMSO may cause skin irritation mostly from the dirt and therefore should be cleaned before applying it. The DMSO solution is rub on the area with a towel several times each day and are removed slowly. Doctors today used laser therapy which just burns it off.
Fungus has many species, but they tend to decay on dead organic matters, primarily because dead decaying organic matter becomes acid. So eating acid food makes us a living dead people as fungus grows on us. Two major remedies to prevent fungus from growing is to reduce tissue calcium through application of vinegar on the skin (ACV or plain vinegar) the acid of vinegar leeches calcium, and I would take alkaline remedies, the best remedies I can come up with is two major ones:
1/2 teaspoon sodium citrate (proper name is trisodium citrate) in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day
1/4 teaspoon of baking soda and 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (carbicarb) which are more effective form.
Both forms above are quite powerful alkalizing method. However, in the area of moles, I might apply a stronger 3% H2O2 solution to the mole area, but they are very irritating, and hence I would generally use a 1- 1.5% H2O2 which is generally more user friendly and don't cause skin irritation. They kill the moles.
Generally speaking, to prevent newer moles, I believe some sun exposure is good, but also alkalization, zinc supplements, magnesium, and borax as the prime remedy in reducing fungus. Some cancer are fungus causing, some virus are cancer causing (Nixon's AIDS virus cancer project), so this is why zinc is used since its also antiviral. Borax is an interesting antifungal remedy, but they are often used together with the alkalizing issue, so the borax for woman's dose is often 1/8 teaspoon of borax in 1 liter of drinking water, which I don't take that much but if I needed it I might take it 5 days out of a week. Usually, countries with fluoride and chlorine in drinking water who drank the solution reported clear weight loss as it reduces the fluoride buildup. But apple cider vinegar 2 tablespoon and 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day often help removal of aluminum too. This is true since about 70% of the U.S. water supply is fluoridated, and a much higher still is chlorinated. I need not prove that chlorine and fluorine in low concentration is not healthy. This can easily be proven in bean sprouts. Even in very low concentration they don't grow. So I imagine, humans aside, the damages to agriculture there is quite large anyway. but on another hand, Henry Kissinger once mentioned, to control the world, you need to control the food supply. So I guess the idea is to achieve control of us, by getting us sicker of course.
The solution to dechlorinating water is just to buy a dechlorinator, available only at the local aquarium shops. The pH meter, I can monitor my urine pH to achieved 7, usually available in the aquarium shops too. It is also healthy, as I found out, perhaps better than commercial sea salts, are the sea salt they used for fish tanks too. It has more minerals because they also get from deep sea water. The wide range minerals from sea salt, which I might add at 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt (real sea salt for fish aquarium) in one liter of drinking water also increases the immune system and may also reduce moles, or at least reduce the number of newer moles, but most important I think is alkalization and minerals in sea salt helps in the prevention of future cancer should the moles become worse.
You mentioned about tyrosine and phenylalanine, well in more general terms it is the amino acid which are classified as excitotoxins (aspartame, phenyalanine, monosodium glutamate, etc.) is what causes metabolic acidosis. Whenever a nerve cells get destroyed (either through trauma or aspartame ingestion), the nerves cells become very acidic, causing the metabolic acidosis. We can easily test for this condition (even the benzene ingestion!) by just measuring the urinary pH to always go below 6.0. Interestingly much of the unhealthful common table salt may exacerbate the condition since its pH is about 5, perhaps from the aluminum compounds they add in the salt, while on the other hand the sea salt averages a pH in a solution usually between 7.5 - 8.5. which is a big difference. Metabolic acidosis lowers the immune system in many ways, but mainly, if the body's pH is lowered, it effects every biochemicals in your body, so it is global in effect, much like oxygen and water. And therefore, pH should be considered important in raising the immune system to prevent moles from at least becoming cancerous or newer moles.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Anita: My philosophy for treatment has always been to ascertain the cause of any underlying condition. A simple mind numbing removal, for me is simply not a cure. So to pursue the cure for mole by finding the cause is not easy. But after some research, a mole and fungus are actually the same.
For some reason or another this line of research were never pursued. Babies get fungus infection and moles exist. Moles are frequently benign like a cancer, but they can get malignant and become cancer. Often it is a well known fact that people will get a fungus infection (moles are one of them) before they get cancer. Perhaps the most difficult organism to get rid of or kill is admittedly the fungus. They can live longer than your own life span, while bacteria and viruses grows and multiplies very quickly because they have a relatively short life span
Fungus are a strange organism. Sometimes they eat up your melanin causing white spots (tinea) and sometimes the produce melanin to protect themselves, which you call moles. Is there any basis in all these strange observation, without going into a long thesis? I will just quote one brief research (there are many more):
Melanin and fungi.
Gomez BL, Nosanchuk JD.
Dermatology Department, St. Johns Institute of Dermatology,
Guy's Hospital, Guy's, Kings, and St Thomas Medical School, London, UK.
PURPOSE OF REVIEW: Production of melanin has been associated with virulence in diverse microorganisms. Melanization of fungi has been noted for many years in predominantly subcutaneous infections such as chromoblastomycosis and more recently most extensively studied in a yeast causing systemic infection, Cryptococcus neoformans. Pigmented fungi are increasingly important human pathogens and currently available antifungals are often sub-optimal for serious infections. This review focuses on recent publications on melanin in fungi with particular reference to the role of melanin in virulence, protection against antifungal drugs, and promoting survival in the environment. RECENT FINDINGS: Inhibition of melanin production by C. neoformans can prolong survival of lethally infected mice. In contrast, melanin in C. neoformans and Histoplasma capsulatum yeast cells can bind amphotericin B and caspofungin, thereby reducing the fungicidal affects of these drugs. H. capsulatum and Paracoccidioides brasiliensis have only recently been shown to produce melanin in vitro and during infection. Additionally, melanin derived from melanized C. neoformans yeast and Aspergillus niger conidia can activate complement, which may modify immune responses to infection. Studies on C. neoformans laccase have revealed that the enzyme is located on the cell wall, which may allow for interactions with the host. Melanization reduces the susceptibility of C. neoformans to enzymatic degradation and toxicity from a heavy metal, which may afford protection to the fungus against similar insults in the environment. SUMMARY: Melanin has been referred to as 'fungal armor' due to the ability of the polymer to protect microorganisms against a broad range of toxic insults. Recent publications continue to reveal important contributions of melanin to survival of fungi in the environment and during infection.
PMID: 12734441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Ted continues... " While this doesn't point moles being fungus, its behavior, life span and other does indicate that moles can be cured.
The cure is simply to remove the fungus or kill the fungus so that the condition can return or become a normal skin.
It would also imply that antibiotics may cause worsening of moles if you are just wondering and certain dietary preferences can potentially create more moles. In which case a removal of moles may not be helpful in the long run.
Once the cause are known or hypothesized, then we now know the treatment. Fungus have certain specific weakness, which are hydrogen peroxide, chromium chloride, copper chloride, borax, DMSO, MSM, garlic, lavender, germanium, rosemary, thyme, oregano, tea tree oil and other ester containing aromatic compounds to name a few. Certain toxic substances that are effective, I cannot mention here sorry.
Certain nutritional factors to prevent moles from "running in the family" appears to be preventable ever continuing this line.
Fungus and cancer are like siamese twins, they also run in the family unless someone cured himself nutritionally of cancer and then "suddenly" the cancer no longer runs in the family. So it appears to be at least to me a non-genetic factor, it merely passes by blood, and maybe not by genes.
In this case, mole cure is not on my priority list, but what I would likely pursue is hydrogen peroxide 3%, borax and vinegar solution. The other solution is a bit more better which is hydrogen peroxide 3%, borax and sodium carbonate solution. You won't kill it immediately, but it needs to be applied frequently enough and long enough and the moles should disappear. How frequent? I imagine 3-4 times a day and the solution stays about 5 minutes each time. The other is the chemical salts using chromium chloride 5% and copper solution 5% possibly adding boric acid of perhaps 10% to remove it, not immediately but over the course of a week should notice some improvement. Again this is a hypothetical experiment to test the fungus thesis as the cause of mole. Should I manage to find the answer, if I can afford a time to do it, I will posts the findings.
Also, what causes ganglion(sp?) cysts? I have them on wrist, finger knuckles.
Cysts are often caused by bacteria. Hydrogen peroxide 1% mixed with borax should help. The key is it must be applied frequent enough. Adding zinc chloride 1% to 2% will further the kill. The key to a good kill is applied every 15 minutes with at least 8 application may see some results. However, I often use lavender oil, tea tree oil, and eucalyptus oil in between the application to stop them so they won't bother me the next day. Again, I improvise depending on whether it itches, causes redness, etc. I wouldn't ignore tell tale signs and I often make changes according to those observations.
How can one reduce them and keep them from starting?
Alkaline diet, no bread, coke, and sweets. Those are acid forming and taking baking soda with ACV, or Lemon, or alone will help. Just see the alkaline page at earthclinic. Cleaning in non sensitive areas using borax and hydrogen peroxide solution 1% is one simple way. But there are many more ways I can try also.
Hope this helps. Further updating if i have any new leads to finding a way to remove the cause. Currently most popular is surgical removal or freeze removal, I just prefer to do it naturally then the cut or burn it off method. Ted "
P.S. Certain kinds of moles may likely be a fungus cause, the reason why it is not part of the genetic makeup is I have known mole that covered a very large part on my myself that completely disappeared shortly after I was born. The only possible explanation is a fungus. Certain other moles I don't know and it is not possible to prove them all as to their origins. But this kind that I am referring to is treatable. Also cleaning using H2O2 at the time was also used could be one possible reason for its disappearance.
If you read other places, they don't even give you the slightest clue on the cause, therefore this is only an attempt on my part on some possible cause based on my own personal experience.
08/13/2008: Dave from Santa Cruz, CA replies: Iodine works. It must penetrate the mole and i found that dabbing it with 35% h2o2 sufficiently opens it up to recieve the iodine. Stay home for a weekend and keep it on. i got rid of a few small moles in about 3 days with an average of 10 applications a day. Hit the area with h2o2 when you think its done and try to scrub off the scab with a q tip. if the mole is still there apply more iodine. if not, apply and reapply neosporne to the spot to reduce scarring. removed 6 from my face, 3 from my body and a large birth mark on my back. keep applying it, dont get discouraged. i've had more success with iodine than surgical removal.
05/03/2012: Spanda from Abq, New Mexico replies: thank you for this info. I realized last night after a month of using anti-viral treatments, (which worked before for a couple of American nickel coin sized perfectly round moles) that this larger one is stubborn and more fungal in nature. Tho all of them tingled in the general area (not itchy). This one is the size of a silver dollar now, but mostly was subcutaneous, only size of an apple seed at first. Starting to pop out, but very uncomfortable. I hesitate to change methods as I was getting some progress but am also feeling impatient. Will try to find the best quality iodine & peroxide. thank you.
01/08/2013: Sloane from Asheville, North Carolina, Usa replies: I have been putting ACV on a large flat mole on my leg and a small flat mole on my arm for three days now. Each day I tape a small piece of cotton with ACV on the mole with vasaline around it and changing it 3 times a day. So far the one on my leg is larger and black and there is no sign on scabbing. Is this normal? Its concerning becuase I really do not want a larger, blacker mole than I started out with.