After dealing with bird mites for 3 years, trying almost every solution listed on various internet sites, I've finally found relief by using a solution called "DeFlea Shampoo Concentrate". It also kills mites and lice by softening the exoskeletal system. I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.
l recently had to visit my daughter to help her move, who has these mites and is in denial. It took me five years to learn enough off EC to rid myself and my dogs of these horrible things. Knowing l was going to get a snoot-full of mites off her car, bed and furniture, and having limited suitcase space, l packed MMS flakes plus citric acid activator for a ten-day stay (Note: it is possible to be covered with them with few symptoms, when you have a healthy immune system.) l have discovered that larger amounts than specified will work in the bath with regular tap water, BUT, the mix produces a healing gas that displaces your oxygen, and you MUST use a fan to circulate the oxygen you are breathing while you bathe, or you will start coughing uncomfortably. If you cough even once, immediately increase the air circulation. l use a box fan on high. l also use 3 tablespoons mms flake with 15 tablespoons citric acid to activate it, don't wait, get in the tub, immerse yourself head to toe for at least 7 minutes, scrub everywhere lightly-no soap or other items which will deactivate the solution- until after the 7 min soak, shampoo and cream rinse after the 7-min soak. When l got home, l experienced none of the usual problems of re-infestation, except for what l got in her car on the way to the train. If 3 tablespoons seems to make you cough, use 2 tablespoons with 10 tablespoons citric acid. This is a 5-1 ratio. Here is a reliable web-site with more info on MMS - g2cforum.org ( explore this site with tabs at the top, the forum is full of personal experience info.) You can purchase the flake (sodium chlorite- watch this spelling!! - read carefully what you are buying!! ) on ebay by the pound. Some feed stores carry the citric acid in bulk for cheap. Yes you can bathe your dogs in it, be aware that white dogs fur will turn pink, as it leaches the metals out of their body into the bath. rinsing with weak baking soda and water will restore the white.
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Posted by Nancy (Seattle, Wa) on 01/24/2013
I have been dealing with bird mites for three years, after innocently bringing an abandoned bird nest into my home as a natural decoration. Within a month I was bitten all over, then swarmed with tiny bugs I could not see. I left my house and rented a place near my job. My car and office were infested. Finally figureed out what was happening via birdmites.org. I used bug bombs, RID, etc. To no avail. Used natural remedies like neem, tea tree, cedar oil, DM, you name it. Nothing worked against these monsters, which I could feel all over, esp. In my nose, ears, eyes, crotch. Then they burrowed into my skin leaving lesions all over me. The scariest part was realizing they were in ME, not just the house, car, etc. I have been to 8 doctors who treat me like I am insane and diagnose Morgellons. Ozone, H2O2 baths help a lot, and last year I discovered that hot saunas helped beat them back, so I take a sauna 2-3x week. Still felt like I was just managing them, not killing them off.
I write this today to say that I have found that quassia wood is working to kill them off. Soak the bark chips in water and drink it and apply it all over. I have been doing this for 4 days and the results are amazing. I will post back as this treatment progresses.
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Posted by Mike (Southern Cal., US) on 03/21/2015
I bought some 250ppm colloidal silver & have read of people applying it under the tongue. Can anyone advise me on dosage. Also I was reading ole robert henry"s post on rife machines & can't find it to finish reading it. What page is it on?
EC: Hi Mike, you can check out this page and see if it's what you were looking for.
You can also do a search of Earth Clinic (box at top of page) for 'Robert Henry Rife' and you'll see where he mentioned Rife Machines in several posts.
Posted by Andoy (Boise, Id) on 11/02/2012
Thank you Antonio-- I rubbed my saliva on my itching skin and after 5 minutes no more itching.
Posted by Antonio (Santiago, Reg. Metropolitana, Chile) on 01/16/2010
SALIVA Kill DEMODEX mites and it's structure
I am not a doctor, as Ted's contributions I would also like to help out with my survey and solution for this problem according to my own experience :
a) Uncomprehensible dermatologists does not know about this...and you lose lot of time with wrong diagnosis, problem getting worse, wrong treatments, being contagious,...
b) Skin thickness is a factor on the effectiveness on treatments
c) Stage of evolution of this insect is another factor on the effectiveness of treatments
To start with:
Babies: as they have thin skin, alcohol (ideally on gel to last more over the skin) kill the mites. Apply very small amount three times during one day and they are dead. Apply them to red dot supposed to be a mite attack. Caution: as the skin is so thin any product applied is absorbed so take caution on the amount of surface covered and on the amount and concentration applied, be very conservative on this.
Adults: When the mites are only superficial on a very early stage of development you can use alcohol too to kill them. Important here is to reach the wrinkles.
As you may notice the face skin is usually more thick than the rest of the body so it will be more effective on the rest of the body than the skin.
At an more advanced stage of development of the mite:
It will penetrate more deeply and form some structures so you can not reach them with alcohol and can not reach them with most of the products. So here we have the Ted solutions and I will introduce you another one:
Have you ever wonder why the mite does not develop inside the mouth or why they are destroyed when attack our lips ?
Well it's the SALIVA that degradates them.
So a solution for Demodex attacking our face is to apply Saliva on our face... but there are more strongest saliva than others. If somebody have very good teeth without too much care effort it shall be bacause their saliva is more concentrated ... this is what we need to use. Apply it and let it dry before a new application. If you are accumulating saliva you may keep if on cold at the refrigerate in order it to maintain it's properties. (of course it's a good advice to wash the teeth carefully before accumulating saliva in order to have it the cleanest possible). A good saliva is the best solution it degradates the mites and it's structures, it's safe, no toxic, acts like a miracle...
A product that works similar are the enzymes that are sold concentrated and you dilute in order to apply to your body. As they are composed of about four types of enzimes you have to make shure you are receiving a good balance of them, I mean a well mixed products because not all of them acts nor are they all as effective.
I hope I am helping here, any feedbak will be appreciated
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Posted by Virginia (Vista) on 05/08/2015
Hi, sea salt or regular ionized salt gets mites off body and kills them. Plus it makes your skin soft. Can use in hair also to kill mites. It will dry your hair out a little though so use a good conditioner afterwards. Plus use a lice comb with the conditioner in your hair before rinsing out you can add tea tree oil in conditioner. Bomb your house and car with hot shot bedbug and flea fogger. It works everytime. My cat I bathed with coconut and strawberry shampoo with a little tea tree oil. Also rubbing alcohol sprayed on bedding, mattress, pillows and carpet helped and kills. You can also use rubbing alcohol to kill lice. Also salt kills lice. Salt kills fleas in carpet. After spending thousands of dollars on everything else these are the only things that worked. Oh yeah. Wash all your clothes bedding and bomb at same time. Raid fogger didn't work. Only hotshot.
Also grapefruit seed oil added to water in a sprayer kills lice and mites around house. It's expensive but works. Plus it's all natural. Won't harm animals either. Add it to your shampoo and animal's shampoo. Can add to your drink for an internal cleanse of mites to as well . Colloidal silver is a great cleanse internally for mites. Just a few drops of either of these in a drink works. Also if you have a yard spray with mixture of grapefruit seed oil and water. It doesn't harm plants or animals. Salt mixture will also kill fleas out of dirt and rocks. God bless and good luck. You will be so happy after you try this. I promise. It is the cure.
Posted by Robert (Los Angeles, CA) on 12/15/2014
This post may be helpful by providing some details to some of the treatments for mites as I think it's maybe needed for some of us new to this.
First of all thank you so much to everyone on this site and others like it. I've only started dealing with this for about a month but I'm finally starting to get a grip on it and myself.
I don't have a cure yet but for anyone starting to deal with it sea salt baths will help you keep your sanity. But after the first bath all the critters that fell off my body ended up on my face and scalp, which increased my misery 10 fold. Wait at least an hour to get your head near the water till they all die off. I've noticed the water temp doesn't have to be all that hot. For my critters sea salt water is enough that they let go and start swimming till they die.
My guys are translucent in color so I never saw them until my second bath when I would gaze at the surface of the water from the side just where the light from the light bulb is reflected. I could see what looked like a sliver of thread or lint swimming like mad with all eight legs. The bigger ones look like a tiny wet dandruff flake with legs all around while the smallest ones look like the tiniest of dots, but looking even closer I realized they were treading water too! This truly freaked me out because there were tons of them in the dime sized spot I was observing. Well maybe 30 or so but that means there was a constellation of mites that just fell off my body in the tub with me! And that was just up to my waist!
I just wanted to give up and I dunno start sleeping on benches at this point. At least my lower half didn't itch that much. While I would soak and ponder getting my upper half in the water again I sprayed my torso and arms with Listerine to keep them from docking on me again. I chickened out a few times and just got out of water spraying my legs with Listerine and washed up, but eventually got a bucket with clean pre-soaked tub water and would step into that from the tub to ensure I didn't take with me the last of the stragglers, which I always found a lot of even after draining the tub and washing feet.
I even tried to dunk my head in a bucket but was afraid they would all crawl to my face then before I was done. Big dilemma. Until today I read about someone snorkeling in their tub, but not owning a mega tub I drove out to the beach and did some real snorkeling. Besides them crawling back on my legs on my drive back 30 min in the ocean got rid of them from me, most importantly my head! I just scratched my head as I wrote that but this is a turning point for me.
So find a big tub or the beach if your near it and dunk yourselves. If a tub hose yourself off while coming out or wait till they all die before getting out. I dream of the Dead Sea or Dr. Fish in Turkey that eats anything and everything off your body.
Now I gotta figure out how to get them off my 3 year old son, which is breaking my heart, and out of our lives.
Good luck to you all! God bless you.
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Posted by Nancy New Jersey (Turnersville) on 08/12/2016
I finally found a cure for mite infestations, selenium sulfide shampoo. You do it every day for 7 days straight, then twice a week until you stop feeling them. No drinking alcohol because it will bring them right back your body is dehydrated all the nerve endings and it attracts the mites to your body so if you shampoo like I said 7 straight days and then twice a week after that it will start to clear up meanwhile you need to clean your house used to premethrim spray leave the house that's what I do I leave the house for the whole day after I spray everything outside sidewalks your car you have to heat it up to at least a hundred fifty degrees.i used a electric grill put it inside the car when the extension cord out in the sun put a thermometer in there to check the temperature get it up to at least a hundred and thirty forty fifty degrees. The car is the hardest thing to get rid of them.
Posted by Ike (Two Mile, Tn.) on 03/14/2015
i"ll try to make this as short as possible. Hope it's helpful to someone. If you have a septic tank on your home and you're washing your clothes w/mites you are washing the eggs right into your plumbing system. They hatch in the septic system and crawl right back up the drain and into your floor boards. The boxed stuff at the grocery store won "t kill " em either! That's what happened to me. You have to treat your septic system! Not sure with what; pool chlorine? Also keep bleach tablets in toilet water, I wrap these things in tissue paper and drown em in it, usually combined w/"urine therapy". When I wash my hands and brush my nails, I also make sure anything that came off of them goes completely through the trap under the sink and down the drain, you don"t want them crawling up the sink drain. I spray w/bleach cleaner immediately also. Didn't see this anywhere on your site. The septic tank is usually installed within 20 ft. of the main bathroom on most houses. This may be the reason some people aren't getting anywhere in the battle. Hope this helps somebody.
Posted by Nikki (Seattle, Washington) on 05/25/2011
I also thought I was infested. Interestyly, I started itching again 2 years to the date of my last 'infestation'.
Last time I was treated with permithium (sp) cream and so was my family. My Dr. thought I had scabies. My family showed no symtoms. This was a 4 month long ordeal of washing, steaming, vacuuming etc.... I probably spent $1000 on cleaning alone.
I went back to the Derm and she did a skin scraping, so that she could take a look under the mycroscope. She said that I do not have scabies, that it must be some sort of alergy. I was going out of my mind, and by the end of summer the rash was gone and we went back to normal.
Fast forward to spring of this year. I really feel the crawling sensation and find it hard to believe that an alergy can feel like a bug and a bite! But, I beleive her. We did a skin scraping again.... And nothing. No bug, feces, legs... nothing.
Something is blooming in my yard that has triggered an allergy. I am starting claritin and a night time antihistimin to get my system to calm down.
The moral here is to get the skin scrapping before self diagnosing and going crazy thinking that you have some sort of parisite.
I love this sight, but wish that the mention of getting a skin scraping FIRST was mentioned somewhere.
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Posted by Carolyn (Penzance Cornwall, Uk) on 09/29/2015
Mites: I was infested by some ducks that I rescued & I found that a strong (3 mugs) of bicarbonate of soda in a bath helped. I allso took bicarb (1/2 tsp) 2x a day as they hate low ph blood. Then dust yourself ALL OVER with flowers of sulfer. Dust your bed as well. Then mix kleen green & Dr Bronners Sal Sudds as a liquid soap & just keep on washing with it. I never thought I would be rid of the little blighters but me & the birds are all nice & mite free now. Persistence is the key.
Posted by Misty (West New York, NJ) on 08/02/2009
For the past several months I've had unexplained itching sensations on my arms, legs and trunk and it was absolutely driving me crazy. When I looked with the naked eye, I couldn't see anything, but felt ceratin it was some type of mite. I started to apply blue painter's tape to any area that itched and then examined the tape with a magnifying glass and saw minute red specks. The only thing I could find on the internet was that it could possibly be bird mites. We do have a lot of pigeons and sparrows around my building and I have noticed tiny white moving lice-like bugs on the cement sill outside my window. These are the steps I have since taken: 1.vacuuming the whole house a minimum of three times a week, in addition to vacuuming my own body when I just feel itchy all over. 2. Spraying the carpets and upholstery with alcohol and Eucy oil. Bought a hot floor steamer to apply super hot steam to all carpets. 4. bought a hand held steamer for mattress and bedding. 5. Sprayed entire house with a popular residual insecticide that is nontoxic to humans and is orderless . 6.Increased my hot water temp. to 140 degrees for laundry. I'm going to try the vinegar solution tomorrow! Hope some of my ideas help.
EC: Eucy oil is (Australian) slang for eucalpytus oil.
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Posted by Terry (Dallas, Tx) on 12/31/2012
I mix equal parts of Tea Tree shampoo with 100% strength tea tree oil in a small bottle. Then, I step into the shower, pour about 1/4 ounce into my hand, then work through my hair (very short), massage my face, eye lids, eyebrows, ears and neck. I leave in place for 2 minutes, then turn the water on and rinse off. I repeat this once more, then continue with the shower. I shower like this twice a day, once before work and once before bed.
My blepharitis is clearing up. The skin itching and crawling sensation has stopped. I read that I should continue this for at least 4-6 weeks, then maintenance, to kill and keep the Demodex from returning.
Tea tree oil is very strong, but you get used to it after the first few times. It is worth the hassle to get rid of Demodex.
Posted by Cocoa2 (Rincon, Ga) on 10/05/2014
Re: Mites in the Eyes
Ted...I have been on here for weeks and I have tried everything. I read about how great castor oil and TTO is for the eyes which for me is my biggest concern. I used it several times a day but while mixing the TTO with baby shampoo and putting on my eyelashes a little would burn my eyes terribly. It was impossible to avoid this as this was on the underpart of the lids. I had great results but had to stop due to my vision be affected. I was putting the castor oil in my eyes having read this was safe and helped with the mites and the dry eye.
Then I read a comment by one warning castor oil can damage the eye and my vision is not clear now. I stopped the castor oil (said was also good for lashes) and vision is a little better. I can not locate the post with warning about using castor oil in the eyes.
I have 4 subtypes of Rosacea, I am in my 70's with many serious medical problems but this mite in my eyes is driving me crazy.
I have used Borax and Turpentine both internally and externally(baths). Can you suggest anything to use on eyes that will not hurt the eye? I thought about the AVC and the Borax mixture or the alcohol/borax but can not find info about using anything on the eye safely.
I am using baby shampoo often during the day. I have purchased all sorts of oils and many other items and tried them all.
I can not get neck underwater as I have a trach tube due to being left intubated too long which damaged my trachea beyond repair.
Thank you so very much for your reply if you can reply to me. Your info is very valuable to many and I thank you that you are willing to do so. I am thinking of getting the ozonated olive and coconut oil to try but unsure if I can use that on the eyes.