Posted by Systemchip (Burbank, Ca, Us) on 01/13/2012
Back in late December I started to take what are called "nootropics" or amino acid and other pills to increase mental performance, focus and clarity. I have ADD and wanted to try something more natural vs taking ADD medication, this turned out to be a very bad idea. I was taking a combination of drugs for 2 weeks with no heart related issues however when I added what is known as Piracetam is caused very bad prolonged heart palpitations for 8 hours. I went to the emergency room and they acknowledged my blood pressure was 180 and heart rate was extremely high although didn't tell me what, they didn't do anything because they had no idea what the problem was. I ended up driving home and the attack episode went away a day later.
What did I take?
The night before I took Bacopa Gold and 500mg of L-Tryptophan
Woke up and 2 hours after doing so I had: 100mg DMAE, 500mg L-Carnitine (alcor), 1200 Omega 3, 100mg Rhodiola.
About 2-3 hours after taking that I then took 2g of Piracetam and Alpha GPC choline 600mg
About an hour later my heart started to pump extremely fast and I started to have uncontrollable muscle spasms and shaking, the kind you get when you are cold. I then started to have electric shocks in my heart.
Over that same week I went back to the emergency room another 2 times, they ran an EKG a total of 3 separate times, a complete blood analysis and didn't find any problems other then my electrolyte and vitamin d levels were a little low. The 2 times after the first incident I went to the hospital, it was 1 time because I had a caffeine drink and a 3rd time it was because I had a bowl of pasta. Subsequently for the next 2 weeks I had heart palptations/blood pressure increases randomly and after eating a wide variety of foods (too many to really pinpoint it on any specific thing). On Christmas day I went to a party and with my lack of control and lack of any symptoms at the time I decided to try some alcohol, didn't have too much but I noticed about 30-60 minutes later I had another attack which lasted for about 2 hours and it was pretty severe, obviously I haven't touched that since.
So now it is over a month since the first attack and I'm happy to say that things have gotten a little better, I can drink caffeine now with no attacks(just tried it once to see if I would get an attack, not daily) however I am still feeling irregular heartbeats on a daily basis. A week ago they did a holter test but they are still waiting for ther results back. I'm 99% confident they are going to see irregular heartbeats throughout the day. I have tried just about every natural cure and remedy listed on this website. So far one of the supplements I was actually taking before, L-Carnitine I decided to try again and that decreased the amount of attacks I have been getting but didn't stop them, taking around 1MG a day. I've also been taking hawthorne, coq10, omega3, potassium, multivitamin. To minimize any potential that these attacks are initiated from any of the supplements I take daily I have tried varying changes from not taking any supplements at all to taking some and not others, no change I made to vitamin regimen has had any noticeable effect other then the L-Carnitine. I also tried Apple Cider Vinegar, however in my case similar to magnesium(below) it actually caused heart palpitations for a few hours.
I've also tried taking Magnesium citrate which I had an attack as a result of that. At the moment of this post I am suffering from another attack because I decided to try a bath in bath salts(filled with magnesium chloride). Almost instantaneously I started to have major heart palpitations to the point where I could feel my lip moving from the blood flowing through my head. I thought this just might be my body absorbing it so I decided to sit in there for a total of 8 minutes and then got out. I measured my blood pressure and heart rate. It went up to 138/77 with HBM at 93. This is certainly within safe levels but caused one of the more severe attacks. Luckily the high heart rate only lasted for a mere 20 minutes as I measured it 10 minutes after the first test and it dropped to 117/75 with HBM at 65. Needless to say I'm not trying Magnesium again as on 2 separate incidents it caused an attack. I am confident this is not anxiety and sitting in a bathtub full of magnesium should help to prove this. I felt very relaxed but the heart palptations came on suddenly and violently. In fact the Drs prescribed me Xanax and I took one yesterday and it actually CAUSED heart palpitations, albeit was the first time it caused heart palpitations, but with taking it previously I can't honestly say it caused my heart palpitations to stop, just made me "not care" about the heart palpitations I was experiencing.
Another thing I have noticed is that some nights my heart rate and blood pressure drop significantly and I start to feel tired but oddly enough it makes me feel good. The lowest I have ever seen my blood pressure go to was 96sys, 56dia, 52 HBM. When I saw it this low I decided to get up and walk around as I know anything below 60 is potentially life threatening. Luckily the only symptoms I ever experienced with this low heart beat was tiredness.
Other times during the day I will get so tense, I will get tingling sensations throughout my body which is usually a precursor to an attack, I would say its adrenaline being released but they tested my Thyroid multiple times to ensure it wasn't hyperthyroidism. Another doctor thought it might be pheochromocytoma which was a good guess but after a blood test for it, turned out a no. Whatever is causing this started from the pills I was taking.
I've also noticed I lost weight, I used to weigh around 150 for 2 years and over the past month it has dropped to 143. Additionally in the first few days of the initial attack I started to see skin pigmentation on my hands, arm and face, little brown dots but the Drs do not think is related. I read this is a symptom of hyperthyroidism but after 2 blood tests 2 weeks apart they say my thyroid levels are fine.
Additionally, whenever I perform any kind of mild physical activity such as going up and down stairs I notice my heart rate shoots up to a comparable extent as if I just sprinted and then suddenly stopped.
Just to summarize all the symptoms: Heart palpitations, skin pigmentation, tingling sensations, high blood pressure/heart racing during severe attacks however most of the time I have heart palpitations without any increase in blood pressure or heart rate. Over the past 2-3 weeks I have not seen my blood pressure exceed 140 during the attacks and most of the time it is within what I would consider my normal range during the palpitations, extreme heart rate for mild physical activity, Heart palpitations can last anywhere from 2-48 hours (yes I had heart palpitations for days non-stop worst feeling ever).
I am a Healthy (or so the Drs say) 21 year old male. I'm starting to think it may be sinus tachycardia or something related. I possibly just created a new health problem nobody has ever heard of before or it is so uncommon the doctors can't pinpoint what the problem is. Noting that I have periods of "normalcy" I am however hopeful I did not cause any permanent damage to my heart as my blood pressure was never recorded to exceed 190sys and my heart rate never exceeded 135 at the peak of my attacks. Attacks can be mild or severe as in the case of me taking magnesium. Anybody have an idea as to why I would have heart palpitations and a racing heart beat from magnesium? Isn't magnesium supposed to calm yourself? I know its not anxiety as not even the anxiety pills help stop the heart palpitations. I have pretty much tried everything at this point and the only thing I can hope is either my body is still trying to get back to normal and I haven't discovered what is causing my body to be off balance. In this case I would hope it would just go away over time as either the attacks have started to become less severe or I just have less anxiety when I have an attack since they are becoming part of every day life. I pretty much can't go throughout the day now without having heart palpitations, even if my blood pressure and heart rate is completely normal during palptations.
At this moment I have an echocardiogram scheduled on the 19th and I am still awaiting the results of the holter test I did last week. I'll also be seeing a cardiologist next month. Unless anybody else has an idea I suppose all I can do is wait to see if things return back to normal or see if they prescribe me beta blockers to see if that stops it, but since my blood tests show everything is fine not sure they would do that. I've just basically given up at this point because I have tried every solution I can find on the internet and either it causes an attack or does absolutely nothing at all to solve it. I appreciate anybody who has taken the time to read this long post and would sincerely appreciate anybodys help or advice about this.