Natural Gallstone Remedies

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Posted by Carole (Bury Village, West Sussex., England) on 03/18/2013

I found this research paper very interesting... Especially the flow of liver qi. Written by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph. D.... treatment of gallstones with chinese herbs and acupuncture:

I am enjoying tamarind - so worth looking at that for gb support.
- And I like dandelion root coffee (good for bile support).
- Also, coconut is a good source of protein.
- Chia seed is also a good source of protein/fibre. a tiny seed packed full of goodness.
- I am loving my bean soup; avocado, beetroot and bean salads and salmon, rice and beans.  It is so rewarding to be able to eat and not be fearful of what might happen.... as we know the pain can be very scary!

Good luck

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc, Canada
Carole, thanks for sharing that info! I posted yesterday here, but it never showed up. It seems the moderators pick and choose what is displayed, which is not such a good thing really. If this post gets through and anyone can recommend another site to post my ultrasound scan let me know please.

EC: Hi Stevenson, your post never came through yesterday. If you tried to attach a file, it may have been rejected by our server. Please send your post and ultrasound scan to and we'll see if we can post it on the site.

Replied by Carole
Bury Village, West Sussex., England
Hi! I am in the process of looking at all the links re the gallstone protocol. I asked Karen Hurd for any data that would support her high fibre diet and she responded immediately with the following link.... which I share here.

Perhaps we can share any thoughts.

Posted by Rei (Venice, Fl, Usa) on 03/16/2013

To Stevenson from Vancouver:

I want to thank you very much for your posting about Kathy Hurd and the legume regimen. I have suffered with gallstone/gallbladder issues most of my adult life. I am now 44 years old. I used to do flushes to help my situation, but allowed far too much time to lapse and am now very uncomfortable and in pain much of the time. I fear that my liver is also damaged due to years of unhealthy life choices, via food, drink and stress. And as a person without insurance or means to be treated by a doctor, I am left to my own devices.

I am embarking on this regimen tomorrow and have spent the entire day researching and preparing my beans. :-) I don't know if there are any "no-no's" with this diet, but I just prepared a Mexican Bean Salad that I do like very much and intend to eat other variations of beans recipes as well. It includes a total of 10. 5 cups of beans (kidney, cannellini & black), 6 cups total of diced green & red peppers, 2 red onions minced, 1/2 cup olive oil, 1/2 cup red wine vinegar, 2 TBL lemon and 4 TBL lime juice, 1 TBL cumin, 1 TSP chili pepper, 1 1/2 TBL salt, 1 TBL pepper, 4 cloves fresh mashed garlic, and 1-1/2 TBL of sugar. Are there any ingredients in here that I should steer clear from? I figure this is about 3 days worth of beans!

I am VERY interested in what your test results will show after your appointment with the doctor. Please do keep us informed! It's people like you who are willing to share their experiences that enrich this community.

Thank you!

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc, Canada
Rei, you're very welcome. I think you are going to be very surprised at how rapidly our bodies heal themselves even if abused for a long time like yours and mine was. On top of my unhealthy food choices and such, the stress I had to endure I am sure did not help my body at all either. I am eagerly awaiting my scan so that I can post the results here, but if how I feel means anything, I feel like the luckiest person in the world to beat this thing.

Your choice of beans looks fine, but I stuck with the kidney beans myself as they have nearly double the fiber of the others and it is the fiber that the does the job of cleaning out our system, but according to what was posted on Kathy Hurd's site, all the beans should be fine.

As far as no-no's goes, your mix looks pretty good. I'm not sure about sugar though as when one is trying to heal oneself, sugar normally is never a good idea. I used pineapple or apples if I need some sweetness in my mix. Sugar may still be fine as the soluble fiber in the beans will be the most important factor but keep in mind though that sugar often does a lot of harm in letting natural foods do their job in your body.

If you can add avocados in their and sometimes mix it up with salmon or brown rice on other days, then you can get complete proteins as I am pretty sure beans alone are not complete proteins by themselves.

Good luck and please keep us posted. I never mentioned this before, but my constant migraines and strange body shivers never came back after starting this diet, so obviously it has more than one plus for the body.

Replied by Carole
Bury Village, West Sussex,, England
Good luck with your legume therapy... Please post how you are getting on. I can only comment on your bean recipe - does it cause you any problems..... The chilli would be my concern as I would not be able to cope with anything spicy?

I have been on the legume therapy (Karen Hurd) for just 9 days and I am really benefitting! I am also enjoying the challenge of bean recipes and learning about the nutritional value of the different beans - as they all taste the same to me! Fascinating, for instance, Black beans are a good source of the B vitamins and Pinto for Selenium.... and so much more.

I am so happy to have found this link and all the resources being shared.


Replied by Rei
Venice, Fl, Usa
Stevenson, yes I've learned through my intense research in the last few days about complete proteins and have armed myself with raw almonds, avacados, brown rice, and a large assortment of veggies! I agree with your comment in regards to sugar, and most likely could have left that out. But I figured since the dressing is pooled at the bottom of the container and after a brief mixing of my bean concoction, very little actually is being consumed. I've made this recipe before, but not for health purposes and there is usually approx 80% of the dressing still left in the container even after the entire dish has been consumed. Perhaps the next time, I'll make a smaller portion of this recipe and remove the sugar all together.

In researching, I happened to have stumbled on so much information on nutrition and coincidently (although I believe there are no real coincidences, rather a purposeful plan being played out) I also had recorded 2 shows on my DVR that spoke specifically about this way of life and eating. It was the Dr. Oz show and it highlighted how one can heal themselves through God's medicine aka food. Mostly made up of vegetables, grains, legumes and nuts, whereas meat and dairy are used simply as a condiment if you are unable to commit to ridding it from your diet.

So I've made a commitment during this 10 week period to eat 80-90% of such a diet and 10-20% of animal products if I really feel the need.

Carole: You mentioned the chili component of my salad. While I realize the chili can aggrevate my gallbladder, I added it thinking it was just a small amount and the dressing doesn't really stick to the beans. However, after I ate my 1/2 cup I did feel a bit of discomfort in my back under the right shoulder blade. Usually this means that a very uncomfortable period is about to come on and I was really worried. However, that never happened. It was just a short period of time, maybe 15 minutes, and nothing painful per se. Something was happening and I wondered if perhaps the oil is forcing the gallbladder to work a bit. If that's the case and this is the only dicomfort I will have, I'm glad to help the gallbladder along to push some of this stuff out and bind with the beans! As I noted above with the removal of sugar the next time I make this, perhaps I will remove the chili as well. I don't like spicy foods, never have. This certainly isn't spicy on any level, but I might as well try to avoid anything that causes discomfort or inflammation.

This is a new journey for me and I'm looking forward to the changes that may follow. Although I started this with the intent to treat my gallbladder and liver issues, I'm broadening my view and looking at the other things that could possibly be affected. I'm hoping that I, like Stevenson, will shed some weight, increase my energy levels, decrease some aches and pains (espesically my headaches), reduce my stress (through a conscious effort and more energy to exercise and move), and perhaps dare I say, feel younger!

Many thanks to Stevenson for sharing his knowledge and experience and Carole for posing the question, as well as others who have shared. Had I not found this post, I don't know if I would have stumbled on the other valuable information that this post inspired. Rather than feeling beaten and helpless as I have been, I have a renewed feeling of hope and optimism. That alone has been the "medicine" I've needed for some time now.

I'll try to keep notes and post my journey so others who may find themselves in my position someday, may come here and perhaps be inspired to begin their own journey. Paying it forward, so to speak. :-)

Replied by Louwrence
Rustenburg, North West, South Africa
Rei, The 1st thing to do is a liverflush & you will solve a whole lot of problems, do the Hulda Clark liverflush, very simple, look on the net for the procedure.
Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Rei, I watch Dr. OZ, too and am so glad there is someone like him suggesting common sense to the masses about health. As fas as headaches goes, I used to get mine from so many foods and weather changes that I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't think beans alone did the trick, but possibly because I stopped all wheat products. I used to blame banannas, chocolate, milk products, you name it for my headaces, but the only thing I left out and never consumed again was anything containing wheat, so I may be alergic to wheat.

One thing I thought would never stop was my weather change headaches. Everytime a front would move in and we have so many this time of year, my head would just explode and I would be out for the day, but nothing, not even a minor headache. It must be overall that the legumes and my diet cleaned out my liver to such a stage that everything is working again in balance in my body.

I wish I would have known all this info 20 years ago, but I'm 53 now and can't complain at all. It's a life long quest for me now to eat healthy as firstly, I really enjoy what I eat now and feel full easy and secondly, why would I want to go back to all those terrible pains, headaches, tiredness and so on, it was like a bad dream and I never want to experience again.

And Carole, so glad you are already feeling better already.

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 03/09/2013

Stevenson: You may want to also consider supplementing Lecithin as it is beneficial to the digestive, bilary, circulatory, and nervous systems; an allround whole body health promoter.

Another item worth mentioning here is the amino acid Methionine which is found in abundance in legumes. Methionine, like choline (methionine actually makes choline), is a superior fat burner. After having made some inroads on hepatitis, and fungal infection in the gut, I restarted using methionine 1grm daily with profound results. My fatty liver is regressing to healthy cells and I can definitely feel this improvement. Extra methyl donors like B-6, B-12, and Folic Acid are recommended when supplementing extra Methionine.

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Timh, thanks very much for your suggestions, I was thinking about lecithin for a long time and I believe it is worth taking. Do you think I have enough Methionine in my daily legumes to avoid the supplement? I was also diagnosed with a fatty liver which goes hand in hand with gallstones for many, but after my legumes 6 times a day, everything feels back to normal.

I have an ultrasound appointment for my gallbladder and bilary ducts again on April-8 so by April-15 I will post the results as my doctor will have them by then. I had to actually switch doctors as my one refused my scan. I'm not sure what that was all about, but the vibe I was getting was that she was really annoyed that I did not take her suggestion to remove my gallbladder so she paid me back by refusing to authorize a scan to see if my stones are all gone. There is some weird stuff going on around here from time to time with the doctors, but luckily my brother's doctor took me on as a patient and immediately booked a scan for me.

Replied by Carole
Bury Village, West Sussex, England
Good luck with the ultrascan. I use lecithin granules - not soya - and I think they help. Have a look again at the Karen Hurd site as she has it listed.

Very early days - day 4 - since starting legume protocol.... However I am happy there is less discomfort. :-)

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
Stevenson: I would first try supplementing Lecithin or/and Choline/Inositol, as well as herbal liver formula. What other sources of protein are you eating??? If you are vegan, it is advised to rotate Rice w/ Legumes. Organic Dairy and Eggs would be good. Being in Vancouver, how about Salmon (great source of protein and EFA's).
Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Timh, OK will look into those right away, many thanks. For protein I get it from the legumes, brown rice, avocado and salmon mostly, so I feel fine there.
Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Carole, thanks and not to worry as the discomfort gets less and less. I'm very interested what my ultrasound will show, but I can only imagine it's great news.

Posted by Stevenson (Vancouver, Bc) on 02/24/2013

I have a better way that requires no flushing. I could go on and on how it has saved me from continous terrible pains from gallstones, but here is the link to where I found the information.

If you have or suspect gallstones, please give it a read as it is only one page long and for me the results were so stunning that I just want to pass this info on. It covers things that you may not find anywhere else and just involves taking soluble fiber 6 times a day (I did it every two hours using kidney or navy beans) to bind to the old bile and stones and after several weeks all the old bile and stones are flushed out of your body and your liver produces new bile and disolves everything else there after.

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
Thanks for the info and link, Steve.

I will beg to differ as for the fiber for Gallstone treatment. As for prevention, it is standard protocol to eat high fiber diet. 500mg Taurine daily would help in detox (purification) as well as bile production. Bile insufficiency is quite often a result of Liver disease like hepatitis or fatty liver, or excessive alcohol consumption, or toooo many prescription/otc drugs. Liver support herbs would go a long ways in the prevention of gallstone.

The Dr Murry school of natural medicine recommends moderate consumption of legumes as they contain Saponins which actually increase gallstone formation. Psyllium and Oat brans are recommended here. Phosphatidylcholine is highly recommended for gallstone issues.

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, BC Canada
Timh??? Obviously you did not read the one page link I posted. It clearly states how old bile attaches like a magnet to soluble fiber and flushes out of your body through your intestinal track rather than being absorbed by it and recycled back to the liver again and again which ends up creating the stones in the first place. When fresh bile is created, this is what disolves stagnant bile and stones naturally, just like fresh oil in an engine removes the sludge.

It seems so many people talk about not eating this and not eating that to avoid getting stones, when the truth is that you can eat many things as long as you keep your bile running fresh. This process not only dissolved all my stones, but made me feel and look 15 years younger as I now have a fully functioning and clear liver.

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, USA
Stevenson: I did read the article and added that legume fibre can, according to Dr Murray, actually increase gallstone formation. I think the study or observation was an excess of legumes consumption. So I concluded in agreement with your finding, but leaned to not limiting the diet to only one type fiber. We now know a diet low in fiber will lead to gallstones and colon problems.
Replied by Anon
Hi, thanks for posting this information Stevenson, it is very interesting and definitely worth doing. When did you use this method? Have you been fine since? I am not a big fan of beans but would try this as I definately would benefit from an oil change. Thanks again.
Replied by Carole
Bury Village, West Sussex, England
Hi! Thanks for posting. I have read this article and, in discussion with somebody who is ahead of me on the dissolving/flushing protocols - and is not winning! - has tried this with no positive outcome. I will re-read the article and see if it is for me. Still doesn't answer my question.... Can anything dissolve a large calcified gallstone and has somebody been successful. So far.... I've not found anybody!

I am struggling with a high dose of Chanca Piedra at the moment - seem to do better with tincture and tea rather than capsule.

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Anon, you're welcome. I held back posting the info until I ran a full 8 weeks and was 100% fine. I started the 6 times a day beans about 2 1/2 months ago after trying just about everything else, including chanca pedra. Nothing worked so I read the info from that link I posted and really digested it. It made 100% sense to me that fresh bile will disolve everything so I started to do it and only 3 or 4 times did I not do 6 times a day due to not having access to the beans when I needed them.

When I had my first ultra sound back in Dec, it came back that I not only had the big stones in my bladder and little ones, but that my ducts were full of those little ones as well. This explained why I had so many different types of excrutiating pain that bought me to me knees. I also realized IV morphine does nothing to lessen the pain I had.

So fast forward to now. No more pain, no more anything. I can eat what I want when I want. I will eat beans at least 2 times a week now, maybe more as I know they work.

To make things simple for everyone, here is how I did it.

Every 2 hours, 6 times a day I had my half cup serving of beans 125ml. Which works out to one full large can a day of cooked Eden organic kidney beans. I chose eden organic as they are available in just about every supermarket and their cans are bpa free. You can just get your own bag of beans as well from anywhere and soak and cook them yourself. It doesn't matter, but I was lazy and bought the canned ones for convenience.

Every time I mixed something with the beans so that if would be fun and easy to eat. I sometimes mixed, apples, pineapple, tomatos, potatoes, sweet potatoes, cucumbers, brocolli, beets, lemon and olive oil, sea salt. Sometimes I even mixed a little of all of the above when I had the appetite.

And that is it. I did this for 8 weeks straight and I am forever thankful not only for how I feel, but the fact that I lost 25 lbs and feel full of energy as well.

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Timh, I apologize for the misunderstanding on my behalf. I would agree that legumes should not be ones only source of fiber. I mixed my beans with so many different veges etc and also had every two days oatmeal as well, avocadoes and such. Even peanut butter. Also, beans do not have a complete protein so one needs to have more than just beans in a diet anyway. I supplemented my protein from avocado most of the time.
Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Carole, please try the legumes method 6 times a day and then get an ultrasound about 3 months later, You will be amazed how fresh bile will disolve your stone. Just image your stone being an icecube floating in warm water, it will eventually melt away. That is how the process of fresh bile works in disolving your stone.
Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
Steve: Your consideration is much appreciated. I was insistent on Fiber as a preventive therapy for gallstones, but after reading your recent personal testimony and the article, you pose a very convincing proposal as treatment. Hopefully this treatment will be further ratified by other E.C.ers.

Looking back several years gone, I was suffering from gallstones (although I hadn't the acute attacks many report, maybe the Dr. Christopher Liver/Gallbladder Formula was at least helping). Went out to eat with some friends and decided on a "salad only" simply because I didn't feel able to digest a complete meal. Much to my surprise, my overall condition improved dramatically within an hour following a vegetable salad. This helped only temporary, but that result was convincing proof of the fiber effect on bile/gallstones. I latter did the flush plus Milk Thistle for the liver and improved significantly.

Replied by Anon
Thank you Stevenson, that's great information, really clear and will be very helpful to a lot of us.
Replied by Carole
Bury Village, West Sussex,, England
Hi again! You say you had your first scan in December which showed the stones. Since being on the legumes protocol have you had another scan? It's great that it worked for you.
Replied by Carole
Bury Village, West Sussex,, England
Hi! Thanks for taking the time to answer. I have re-read the information.... Have beans soaking ready to give it a go! I do have a high fibre diet - perhaps why I do not have 'attacks' when I eat.... just these weird heat/itching/inflammation problems from exercise mainly now..... the stone rattling around? I do eat a lot of legumes (I thought) but not as high an intake as described in the Hurd link or your post.

Some days I think I'm mad to follow 'another idea'.... When the reality is that the stone showing on the scan is getting bigger... and the GCG, Lemon, Lecithin, Chanca Piedra, diet, Dandelion Root tea, Tamarind, Apples, etc. are doing what? I know everything has helped restore my liver to a very healthy state.... I just want the stone to go.

Trying to convince my specialist not to just go ahead with gb removal surgery is difficult....

Thanks form your help and I am so pleased that what you have done has worked for you... gives me hope.

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
You're welcome Timh and Anon. I wanted to make it as easy as possible for everyone to know what and how I did it as I really feel nobody deserves the types of pain I was experiencing. I did forget to mention that 2 or 3 times I replaced Kidney beans with Navy beans, but I then fully stuck with the kidney beans as they have nearly double the fiber and it is the fiber that does the job and I sincerely hope people post their results after doing it.

I'm glad you mentioned how you felt after that salad. It happened to me too in the past, but I did not make the connection at the time. If I would have known to keep eating small portions of soluble fiber throughout the day, I could have saved myself a year of on and off hell, but better late than never.

To keep the record straight, I never stopped my morning coffee and I'm glad because I just love coffee.

Carole, I am going to the Dr. next week so that he can schedule an ultrasound again. I'm in Canada so I will have to wait it out for an appointment, but will post the results here. The last couple of days, I have tried to assault my body with high fatty foods, including tons of cheese, donuts, you name it, just to make sure I have absoltutely no issues and I don't, not even a suggestion of pain or discomfort anymore. Before, it was so bad, the slightest animal fats from milk products alone would send me to the floor crawling in pain and my first Doctor did not help either telling me things like "you could die", " you really need to consider removing your gallbladder" etc etc. It was a drain on my consciousness for sure, but I just did not want to give in and have things cut out without first doing my best to get it under control. Even my family when they witnessed me sweating profusely crawling on all fours wanted me to get the operation.

Replied by Stevenson
Vancouver, Bc
Carole, you're not alone as many of us have tried several methods. That is why I felt it was really important to read that link and understand it well. What you will also notice is that the weeks just fly by once you start and before you know it, you're finished.

Another side effect is that my body has become very fit, not from exercise, but just fit and lean and healthy as obvioiusly the cholesterol melts away at the same time leaving everything very firm.

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Posted by Ms Jackson (Hampton, VA) on 12/05/2007

[YEA]  My acid reflux started 2 months ago. I went to the doctor and told her the problems i have and she started me on PROTONX. It worked for about 2 weeks then slowly got worse I had to go to the Emergency Room I felt like I was dying. They gave me the same meds to soothe it and sugessted reglan to increase the strength of my stomach i guess. Then I tried proselic it was okay for a week then I was up again worse I am going to try the ACV I hope this works and I only drink Spring Water to prevent Gall Stones my mother had those and they are painfull since she stopped drinking regular water no problems for years... I'll let you know in about a week!!!

Replied by Georgia
Green Bay, Wisconsin
I want to do a liver cleanse. However I am allergic to sulfate. Can someone please tell me if I can take another ingredient with out sulfate. I am also a diabetic, will this be safe?

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Posted by Jan (Se Q'ld, Australia) on 05/20/2012

Hi, I notice you don't YET have a segment for SWEDISH BITTERS. I would like to see it as to me it is a medicine chest in a bottle as it helps so many ailments.

I've seen a person healed of pain in just 5 or 6minutes from Gallbladder stones pain attack. Amazing results after a tbspn of the Swedish Bitters brown liquid in a little water, swallowed and then the application of SB Compress over the pain area.

I've seen my husband's knee healed after an accident and application of compress on his knee for an hour or so, for a few days in a row. I've had a badly sprained ankle heal overnight with the application of a Swedish Bitters compress. I am never without it in my medicine cabinet, bathroom and kitchen.

To read it's history, recipe' and the old manuscrip, there is a free ebook on it at

Hope this can help someone.

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Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) | 685 Posts

So, I must start with the basics first. Gallstones are really caused by a magnesium deficiency. In fact, at LEAST 95% of the U.S. population is magnesium deficient. Magnesium comes from food sources like fresh green vegetables. I have a strong suspicion that gallstones are also formed by lecithin deficiency as well as magnesium: potassium: phosphorous: boron being imbalanced. In practice, magnesium and boron supplementation will balance the necessary problems and bring to balance the blood calcium - which is quite high in U.S. Finland, by the way, had the same problems as in U.S. until they got wise and made a law by adding magnesium to their food and/or water supply. They now do not have high rates of heart attack as in U.S. but they have one of the lowest in the world (lower than Japan). My suspicion is that gallstones are also going in the same direction. Let's go back to magnesium....

I personally supplement myself with 2000 milligrams of magnesium chloride (other forms do not do well except of course magnesium bicarbonate, which can be made at your home by bubbling magnesium carbonate with carbon dioxide in 90% water solution, since magnesium bicarbonate can only exists in water). Well here is an article of magnesium which you can read about:


In addition to the prevention of kidney stones there is evidence that magnesium can prevent gallstones Our medical dictionary says that the gallstones is a concretion formed in the bladder or the biliary ducts, composed, in varying amounts, of cholesterol, bilirubin, and other elements found in bile. The biliary ducts are in the liver. In this case also, magnesium is a specific preventive factor in the formation of gall- or liver stones. For one thing, in a previous chapter, we showed that magnesium has the effect of reducing the amount of cholesterol in the bloodstream.

The matter is mentioned in a communication to the French Academy of Medicine (June 23, 1931) by Pierre Delbet, M.D., reproduced in his book Politique Préventif du Cancer. He says that when the diet is rich in magnesium it immediately shows up in the bile. In this manner the quantity of the magnesium in the bile can be actually doubled. This was confirmed by Bretau. Dr. Delbet also mentions clinical work by Drs. Godard and Palios, which showed that such increase in magnesium can have a favorable influence on gallstones Dr. Delbet studied human bile in the laboratory and found that the addition of magnesium drove out practically all the cholesterol, and he noted that the addition of magnesium added a pigmentation to the bile, gave it a deeper coloring. Its effect on the bile was to make the cholesterol in it more soluble.

Dr. Delbet then adds that, "It is a clear result of experiments ... on the action of magnesium chloride on the elements that make up calculi [stones] that the addition of a food ration of magnesium in the form of halogenated salts has the power to reduce chance of biliary calculus formation.

"This conclusion is confirmed by facts. I know a great number of people who take delbiase regularly. None of them has vesicular trouble. That's probably not very convincing. You can't prove that those who take delbiase would have had biliary calculus if they bad not taken it. On the other hand, quite a few patients have biliary calculus without being magnesium deficient." In other words, there are other causes of gallstones than a magnesium deficiency.

However, says Delbet, "cases of the gall bladder being healed by the regular use of halogenated magnesium salts are numerous."

Delbet gives an interesting account of a doctor who used magnesium in connection with difficulties he had with the bile:

"The clinical facts have, for the most part, been observed by chance. My followers take much magnesium chloride. They are enthusiasts propagandizing for it. Others adopt it, partly, perhaps, because it often produces systemic excitation. Among those who take it for its tonic action, several are afflicted with various ailments which disappear, and they report from time to time successes I did not expect, acting on ailments that are out of my province. Thus I am led to discuss matters of which I do not know a great deal.

"About the preparation of the sick for operations, I have reported the action of magnesium chloride on the digestive tract.

"Laborde states that it has a strong action on the secretion of bile. I have no experience on this point, but I have confirmed with de Wades that, introduced into the duodenum, it leads to evacuation of the tube. By this mechanism it can render service in infections of the biliary duct. One of our associates has sent me his own observation which seems interesting to me. He had repeated attacks of inflammation of the gall bladder and the biliary ducts With fevers up to 39.6º, chronic intestinal troubles (diarrhea, distention, painful spasms after eating). In spite of a strict regime and treatment by physical agents on the liver and abdomen (diathermy and infra-red light), he showed no improvement. He put himself on delbiase in a dosage of 2 tablets (1 gr. 20) a day, stopping all other medication. Here are the results: it is he who has recounted them. "No more liver attacks, no more epigastric pains; intestinal troubles improved. After several weeks the stools became normal, as they had not been for five months. In two months, a weight gain of 10 kilograms. Transformation of the appearance, appetite normal, digestion easy, in spite of a return to hard work. The possibility, without the least sensation of fatigue, of taking up once more my habitual occupations."

So we pause and look back on what we have been reading. It sounds too good to be true-- magnesium seems to be good for anything that ails you. Therefore, why don't we hear much about it? The newspapers sing the praises of the wonder drugs in headlines, but the action of this miracle mineral is ignored. One wonders about the honesty of medicine. There have been hundreds of researches on magnesium. Is there a specific reason why it is being ignored?

Also, some EDTA supplements and/or humic acid/fulvic acid might help with gallstones by reducing oxidant actions resulting in gallstones And one more thing, oxidized form of cholesterol might also be responsible for gallstones. When I say oxidized form of cholesterol, I mean overcooked foods. They might be a source of those soft gallstones you heard about. This is especially dangerous when you are doing cooking using microwave, because we get all sorts of nonexistent organics compounds not found in nature. In fact, there was a Swiss study which found cholesterol level to be higher within a week of drinking and eating food heated with microwave. Chemicals formed from microwave cooking such as d-proline is a neurotoxin and may be responsible for alzheimer and parkinson's disease. l-proline is found in nature and it is safe. So stay away from microwave cooking and learn to eat raw food. Gelatin is especially important in our diet in helping absorb vitamins and riding ourselves of toxins.

Fulvic acid/Humic Acid to Loosen gallstones:

Fulvic acid/humic acid acts like a chelating agent (as in EDTA) which attaches to the gallstones causing them to be loose and dissolving them. It is a traditional used. It also reduces inflammation by increasing the immune system. How or what actions fulvic does really is that it removes "free metal radicals" which causes hydroxyl radicals to form in our body thus making it a good source of antioxidant, and at the same time loosening the gallstones

One of my personal theory of formation of gallstones has to do with colloidal suspension. Eating or drinking foods which DESTROYS COLLOIDAL DISPERSION is what causes our body to precipitate forming gallstones This is caused really from eating canned foods, soda pop and frozen dinner. It is well known that aluminum destroys colloidal suspension and causing a precipitation resulting in gallstones. Eating foods deficient in magnesium and excess in calcium make it even worse. Denatured foods found in canned food has no colloidal suspension really does not help either.

One of the easy techniques to increase colloidal dispersion (and thus zeta potentials), thus preventing gallstones in the first place is drinking water with lots of magnesium (hard water) and some potassium (not much) whose water is alkaline (you can add baking soda or sodium bicarbonate - but must be free of aluminum!) This is the reason why EDTA is helpful in prevention of gallstones, by chelating aluminum out of the body. Antacids, toothpaste tubes, rice cookers, cooking utensils, candy wrappers (chocolate kisses), and antiperspirants are the worse offenders because they have aluminum. You can read an eye opening article for colloidal suspension here:

(truly a classic article if somewhat technical for the general audiences - pictures is a real eye opener what it does to your body!)

Blood high in cholesterol or fats will also clump together without adequate lecithin (from raw yellow egg yolk and soy milk).

Nicotinic acid, known as Vitamin B3 known commonly as niacin maybe useful in reducing cholesterol buildup and hence reduced gallstones. There is a big distinctive difference between vitamin B3 called Niacinamide and Nictonic Acid. Do not use niacinamide as it is harmful to certain enzymes in suppressing SIR2 enzymes, use only nicotinic acid. I suspect also that a deficiency in nicotinic acid might have something to do with gallstones. The usual dose is about 500 milligrams/day. The dosage used in RDA (recommended daily allowance) does not have therapeutic doses used in orthomolecular therapies, commonly used by Linus Pauling.

Please remember one thing environmental toxins are what influences our health the most. If you have fish aquarium than you know what its like to put tap water (with chlorine) killing the fishes instantly. In fact fish aquarium, chlorine destroys colloidal dispersions which is why fishes are killed. pH, gH (general hardness), kH (carbonate hardness) are important fishes as it is for our own life also. Therefore it may be important to put dechlorinator when we drink water as we do to fishes. (dechlorinator used in aquarium is really sodium thiosulfate). You can restore colloidal dispersion of water somewhat by adding this. The chemical is quite safe since it is found in human bodies and it is used as a treatment for cyanide poisoning and prevention of side effects in chemotherapy treatment."

Additional Info emailed: "There is two factors that might be helpful in dissolving gallstone. From another point of view that is. If gallstone's component is cholesterol and calcium then dissolving cholesterol by eating lecithin and dissolving calcium by supplementing with EDTA will do the trick. Here is a way to prove that EDTA will work. Get a very old glass that looks very cloudy. As you know it is impossible to clean the cloudy glass. The main component of the cloudiness is caused by calcium carbonates clinging on to the glass. Get disodium EDTA, and wash it. The EDTA dissolved in water will remove them in seconds just by rubbing your fingers on it. Now 1 gram of EDTA will dissolve about 201 mg of Calcium Carbonate. That is proof enough for me that it will dissolve those gallstones, as well as kidney stones. I hope this helps.

Replied by Rhonda
Edgefield, SC, US
What is EDTA and humic acid/fulvic acid and where do we get these?"

03/10/2011: D.l. from Sulphur Springs, Texas replies: "Humic and fulvic acids are formed from the degradation of dead plant matter. They are supposed to be very good antioxidents. I found some at my health food store. You can also order it online.

Replied by Richard
Manila, Philippines
Hello, Sharing here the easy-to-do-at-home gall bladder cleansing: REMOVING GALLSTONES NATURALLY

It has worked for many. If it works for you please pass on the good news. Chiu Nan is not charging for it, so we should make it free for everyone. Your reward is when someone, through your word of mouth, benefits from the regime. Gallstones may not be everyone's concern. But they should be because we all have them. Moreover, gallstones may lead to cancer. "Cancer is never the first illness, " Chiu Nan points out. "Usually, there are a lot of other problems leading to cancer.

In my research in China, I came across some materials which say that people with cancer usually have stones. We all have gallstones. It's a matter of big or small, many or few. One of the symptoms of gallstones is a feeling of bloatedness after a heavy meal. You feel like you can't digest the food. If it gets more serious, you feel pain in the liver area." So if you think you have gallstones, Chiu Nan offers the following method to remove them naturally.

The treatment is also good for those with a weak liver, because the liver and gallbladder are closely linked.

  1. For the first five days, take four glasses of apple juice every day. Or eat four or five apples, whichever you prefer. Apple juice softens the gallstones. During the five days, eat normally.
  2. On the sixth day, take no dinner.
  3. At 6 PM , take a teaspoon of Epsom salt (magnesium sulphate) with a glass of warm water.
  4. At 8 PM , repeat the same. Magnesium sulphate opens the gallbladder ducts.
  5. At 10 PM , take half cup olive oil (or sesame oil) with half cup fresh lemon juice. Mix it well and drink it. The oil lubricates the stones to ease their passage.

The next morning, you will find green stones in your stools. "Usually they float," Chiu Nan notes. "You might want to count them. I have had people who passes 40, 50 or up to 100 stones. Very many." "Even if you don't have any symptoms of gallstones, you still might have some. It's always good to give your gall bladder a clean-up now and then. PASS THIS AND YOU MAY HELP OTHERS!

Replied by Val
Esher, Surrey, England
Removing gall stones naturally. Recently I have had bouts of severe pain in my gut. I had an ultrasound which showed lots of small stones. I have just completed the apple juice, epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice liver flush, as reccomended by Chiu Nan. It's a miracle!! It worked perfectly exactly as he stated. On the 7th morning there were at least 60 floating little green stones. No pain at all! The only discomfort was drinking the olive oil and lemon juice. A tip is to drink it through a straw, that way it doesn't have to touch your the inside of your mouth! I am so thrilled with the results, that I would like everyone to know...... It works!
Replied by Paul
Haiberabad, India
Hi Val, Have you recently tried it? I too has a problem, I dont know what it is but base from the symptoms that I feel, it's gallstones. The pain in my uppr right stomach touching the rib made me believe that this is a gallstone. My questions are what do you prefer in this cleanse? drinking apple juice or eat 5 apples? and in the 6th day, is it ok to take lunch but not dinner?

Thank you, I want to try this but I want to know 1st who already tried it. I want to clean my gallbladder and liver!

Replied by Mike
Montreal, Quebec
The part about lecithin is correct Ted as I discovered this about 2 weeks ago and immediately felt the improvement especially in terms of getting rid of my long term diarrhea problem. I would however not recommend getting it from eggs because of high cholesterol content as compared to soy which also happens to have other health benefits as well.

I suspect all along that a clogged liver from excess cholesterol deposit could be the main reason for a white tongue. When a liver is clogged, it is unable to release all the toxins efficiently so some of it becomes release through the tongue.

Diarrhea and even acid reflux is the body's natural reaction to pathogens that have been allowed to flourish as a result of poor bile flow. That is why it is so important to use lecithin for unclogging your liver and thus maximize bile flow inside your digestive system.

The olive oil and lemon solution will not unclog your liver as efficiently as lecithin but instead only increase the bile pressure in your liver and release some of the gallstones from your body. Unfortunately these gallstones will return unless your liver is free from any cholesterol deposits.

I have been consuming granulated soy lecithin every day and still to this day after more than 2 weeks, not a single episode of diarrhea and gall bladder attack. The best part of this treatment is that I don't have to experience the unpleasantness of going through a rigorous olive and lemon flush. I suspect all along that gallstone is really the result of a clogged liver from having followed a western diet that consist mostly of cholesterol forming food over a very long period of time.

If you follow a very healthy eating habit like I do then it is also unlikely that you will have a gallbladder problem since your body will not become deficient in magnesium and potassium as Ted pointed out. Thus, I encourage everyone to follow Ted's recommendation that would lead to a a healthy liver as I have gone through this process with very successfully results up to now.


Replied by Daniel
Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne, U.k
This is to Ted, How do I get natural Magensium chloride without added diliuent such as magnesium sterate for health related treatment? It seems that most Magnesium chloride vitamin supplement contains Magnesium sterate as a diliuent. And from my little research I found that Magnesium sterate in vitamin supplement can prevent absorption of the core ingredients. Also I heard that Magnesium sterate (Not Magensium chloride) can have a lot of side effects. I tried to look for transdermal Magensium chloride over the net to overcome this problem but it seems they are very over priced some charge upto 50$ per bottle.. Something I simply cannot afford. God bless. Daniel
Replied by Susan
San Francisco
Can you buy Magnesium Oil (magnesium chloride brine) where you live? Not expensive.
Replied by Bess
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Hi Daniel - I bought pharmaceutical grade magnesium chloride from a company that supplies it for home fish aquariums. It's pure - nothing is added and it is much cheaper than anything you can buy in a health food store (I think I paid $27 Cdn for 7 pounds of it - which will last a very long time). Call any store that sells tropical fish and ask if they have magnesium chloride in stock and, if not, perhaps they can tell you where you could buy it. Also, you may want to check out chemical companies. To make transdermal magnesium "oil" - just add 1 cup distilled water to 1 cup magnesium chloride. Apply to your skin. Leave at least 20 minutes. Some people find it makes their skin itchy so they will rinse it after the 20 minutes. Good luck in finding a local source! Bess
Replied by Joy
Alberton, Montana
To Mike from Montreal. I found your comment intriguing as I have known for quite some time that my liver has fatty deposits and coincidentally I also have a light colored tongue (I did not associate this with liver). My question to you is about the lecithin. Where do you buy it and how do you take it? Is it something I will have to take forever? I no longer have a gall bladder and I was told that I did not have any stones, but I do experience liver pain and have digestive problems. I would love the solution to be as simple as just taking some lecithin!! Any other info you would like to share is certainly welcome! Thanks.
Replied by Olga
Rockville, Md
To Joy from Alberton, Montana.

I have found a website of Dr. Deborah Graefer

She is acupuncturist from California. Her website has a lot of good advises for people who experience pain from gallbladder and people who has GB removed. I had gallstones attack recently. I am six days following her beets, green soop diet, and drink flaxseeds tea. I feel very good.

Replied by Tt
I want to see if anybody had something similar what I have. I have periodic RtUQ pain. I do eat fats and do not restrict my diet too much. I am eating variety of foods with fruits and vegetables in plenty amounts.

I took antiparasitic tx (Mebendazole/Prazi before), my LFTs were slightly elevated, now are normal.

During liver flush with MgSO4 I get pale yellow pieces different shapes (most are small, large ones are about 1cm). They float. I digged few of them out with a glove, they are soft like paste and very easy to smudge out. What is it? Anybody had something similar?

Replied by Kimberly
Fl, Usa
[SIDE EFFECTS]   I followed this remedy. When I started drinking the oil & freshly squeezed lemon juice (I only took about 3 sips through the straw) when I started vomiting. I had to stop drinking this. Has anyone else experienced this?
Replied by Louwrence
Rustenburg, North West, South Africa
Hi Kimberly, It is a sign that you are very toxic, so just do it again until you can keep it down, it is worth it.
Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
Kimberly, this mixture certainly isn't for the fainthearted but it will empty the gallbladder. I, being at high risk for the stones had neglected a cleanse for over 3 yrs until I couldn't go a day further. About 10 days ago I fasted for 2 days on all but Apple Juice, mixed 1/2 cup veggie oil and about 1 oz Lemon Juice Concentrate w/ about 1 oz water, downed it in gulps rapidly (as I always do), layed down in bed and squeezed a roll of toilet tissue over the gall w/ my right thigh, and roll over on my left hip for drainage. I had a mix of several size stones plus the largest (about the circumference of a 25cent coin) stone i've ever passed. It took a couple days to detoxify but then the relief is something to almost celebrate.

Anyway, K, drop the straw method and just gulp it down as if you were very thirsty and drinking water. Let us know of your progress, OK!

Replied by Kimberly
Fl, Usa
Thanks for the advice, I am going to try it again.
Replied by Vickey
Sandpoint, Idaho
Hulda Clark (Cure for all Diseases) recommends 3/4 cup fresh grapefruit juice rather than lemon juice, added to the 1/2 cup olive oil. Shaken, not stirred, I sip that mixture through a straw then lay down immediately, with no discomfort. In the morning come the greenies, etc. Etc. Etc.

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Posted by Carole (Bury Village, West Sussex,, England) on 03/19/2013

Spice you might like to look at for gb/liver issues.... Are tumeric - a natural anti-inflammatory and liver detox. Cinnamon helps lower cholesterol.

Posted by Rosemary (Rahway, New Jersey) on 11/09/2006


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Posted by Heather (Cincinnati, Ohio ) on 04/27/2014

[YEA]  I have recently been dealing with gallstone pain after indulging in certain foods. Last night I was in a panic with terrible pain and on the verge of visiting the ER. I have visited this site before for the kidney stone remedy, with great success and decided to try the vinegar remedy. However, I only had white vinegar at 11pm at night. I decided to try it mixed with water and honey. IT WORKED!!!!! Thank you!

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Posted by Dee (Belfast Ni) on 11/05/2013

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  Have had gallbladder stones detected with scan after several painful episodes. I was unaware of the therapeudic use of Apple Cider Vinegar, but thanks to all the great advice will defo be trying it next time. For me drinking copious glasses of water every day helps keep pain away.

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Posted by Blessed (Atlanta, GA) on 09/29/2008

[YEA]  i have been diagnosed with gallstones this past may of '07. i couldnt believe this is what was causing my nasuea and pain. i landed on this site looking for a remedy for another health issue i was having and decided to share my gallstone cure with everyone. i started off trying to obtain gallcleanse which i heard was the miracle drug out there. all natural, safe, doctor approved (can find it online but sold out every where) but my order has been on back order so long i tried Yi Dan instead (also found online). its 3 tablets 2x a day so i take them in the am and pm when i wake and sleep. no more pain. im going back for an ultrasound but i can almost guarantee there will NOT be any stones in my gallbladder! i can just feel it!!! Gallcleanse or Yi Dan are your best bet!!! good luck!

Replied by Tona
Albany, Ny
Hi I read your post about YI DAN, for gallstones, I was just wondering if your gallstones were gone after using this natural product? I just purchased this product a few days ago because I did not want to remove my gallbladder as my doc recommend.


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