[SIDE EFFECTS]  01/21/2008: Tracy from Frederick, MD replies: "Just wanted to put in my .02cents. I was taking the ACV Baking Soda tonic three times a day. It's ironic now that I think about it, the way our bodies talk to us, the last few times I took the recipe, (and I'm very used to the taste of the ACV/BS tonic) my nose would turn up at the smell, it smelled furmented, almost like old wine. Then I got a yeast/BV infection...and after research and trial and error, I realized that what Sandhi mentioned was true, too much BS can reverse the body's alkaline and actually make it too acidic. So, after curing the Yeast infection with Hydrogen Peroxide, yogurt and water (monostat DID NOT WORK) and quitting the Baking soda, I feel much better. Every once in a while if I feel heartburny I'll add BS to my ACV, but I skip the BS most days and just take ACV and feel much better!"

[SIDE EFFECTS]  06/14/2008: Netsy from Richmond, VA replies: "To Sandhi/Tracy: Yea or Nay??? I started using 4 tbsp BS to 8 oz water for constipation. I used it about once a week for months. Worked fine initially, but eventually totally stopped working. One day had a sense of fullness, went to restroom and passed 2 thumb-sized white shiny looking pellets that were floating. It frightened me to no end so I put on gloves and fished them out to carry to my MD. They looked hard but didn't add up to the floating. I decided to squeeze one over a piece of plastic and it broke. Looked like an accumulation of baking soda (powdery form) inside some type of membrane that was keeping it waterproofed. It amazed me but I totally stopped using BS. This is the puzzlig part. I've suffered with stomach problems for 30 years. Started out diagnosed as duodenal ulcers ended up as acid reflux. I was put on different types of meds to include intensive antibiotic treatments for H-Pylori bacteria. I ended up using only Aciphex. I couldn't explain why about a year ago I stopped having stomach pains and indigestion. I never gave it anymore thought until I came across this website and realized it was around the time I started taking the BS remedy that I stopped having pain. I'm wondering if it was the BS and if it cured my Acid Reflux because I've been pain free and off all stomach meds for over a year. I eat spicy foods, dairy products, fried foods, all without any bloating or pain."

06/16/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Response to Netsy: Baking soda is not a complete remedy, but it has good consistency with acid reflux. It works best when I take vitamin B complex once a week plus ocassional vitamin C such as twice or three times a week, of vitamin C. The baking soda does not reduce the b complex but the body could be low on potassium that is causing the problem since the baking soda is meant to reduce the acid reflux in general. No remedy will work forever, if that were the case a complete nutrition plan is needed, in any event a potassium citrate is needed for longer term users. Hence, the remedy that is more complete is:

1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of potassium citrate in 1 glass of water.

The remedy is usually taken 5 days a week. So I might be assuming, right or wrong that potassium was not added, vitamin C was not taken or possibly b complex. Ted

P.S. The white shiny objects deserves a special mentioned. What happens is if I eat an oxalic rich food, such as shellfish, beans, nuts, spinach etc. and it goes into my stomach acid, it becomes oxalic acid. The oxalic acid, if the body doesn't have sufficient amount of sodium bicarbonate to neutralize them, the oxalic acid enters the bloodstream and reacts with the blood calcium to form calcium oxalate. Interestingly the calcium oxalates in turns accumulates in the kidney to become kidney stones. But even more interestingly, it can enter a woman's ovaries and destroy the ovaries to cause a somewhat permanent condition called PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) in which the calcium oxalates, for example blocks normal process of ovaries and produce uterus pain. However, if the baking soda was taken and the food eaten is high in oxalic acid, the baking soda neutralizes this to become sodium oxalate and prevents it from entering the bloodstream and shows up as a white shiny material. Hence instead of becoming calcium oxalates in the kidneys to become kidney stones, or calcification of the ovaries, for instance (thyroid calcification is even more damaging leading to a more malignant form of tumor), is safely rid of by the body as a sodium oxalate, and if the dietary oxalic acid were also high with calcium diets, the baking soda would once again neutralize them and may form some calcium oxalates, and sodium oxalates from entering the blood stream. So in my opinion the baking soda offers a protective mechanism against calcification of tissue. That said, a modern man diet is already way deficient in three for for elements compared against the paleolithic diet, one is that our evolutionary process are geared for higher consumption of bicarbonates, more omega 3, and potassium, all of which are the cause of a lot of our sickness."

09/08/2009: New To All This from La, Ca replies: "I was thrilled to find this site, with simple remedies that work for many. I started to put together the ACV with baking soda in water and then found my baking soda was outdated, so I just drank what I had, sipping it all day and even brushing my teeth after drinking it. This evening I came back and read in posts from Ted and others that ACV alone damages tooth enamel, which is a problem I already have. I couldn't believe I got too caught up in trying out the treatment to think of this on my own. Now I'm afraid to try the ACV again--and posts about side effects from baking soda make me wary, too. I'm also having second thoughts about using lemon juice instead of ACV, since lemons are also acidic.

Is there any way to repair damage to tooth enamel?

It would be helpful to have the huge amount of information here more orderly, so we could link directly to both agreeing and disagreeing posts right away."

EC: A post on the subject from the following page: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar3.html

03/22/2007: Nathan from Portland, OR writes: "Let me add to Dr. Yong's comments regarding tooth enamel (and point out why William Campbell Douglas was misinformed). Acid damages tooth enamel. Pathogenic bacteria in the mouth produce acid as a byproduct when they consume sugar. So when you drink ACV, you expose your teeth to acid. When you eat products with high sugar content, the bacteria produce acid. Neither of these situations is necessarily deleterious to the tooth enamel if the exposure to the acid is over a short period of time. Saliva is able to cleanse the mouth, and the pH returns to normal. However, if you sip the ACV over a long period of time during the day, the pH of the mouth is unable to recover, and as a result of constant prolonged exposure, dental decay results.

The same amount of ACV ingested over a period of a few minutes will typically cause no problems. Yes, we eat/drink acidic/sugary foods all the time (as the MD mentioned) but these are the things that cause decay especially if sipped or ingested in large quantities over long periods of time. Try to consume your ACV 3 times per day within a period of 5-10 minutes."

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