Ted's Dog Mange Cure (Most Popular)
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."
More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)
Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."
"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."
"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."
"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."
"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "
"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."
"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.
The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.
Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.
In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.
Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.
I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.
VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.
Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.
I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.
Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.
I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.
I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.
04/26/2009: Jeana from Attalla, Al: "OK... So i want to try this home remedy for mange, but i have one question. My dog LOVES to drink the water when she takes a bath. Is this going to make her sick if she ingests it? I will try to keep her from drinking it but she will still probabally take in a little bit.... Will she be ok?????"
04/22/2009: Erma from San Diego, California, USA: "Hi Ted,
Thank you for your time and wisdom.
I have a cat that obviously has mange, I have other cats in the house as well and they seem to be scratching on their ears and chin and head but not as badly as the first who has lost patches of fur and had deep cuts from scratching, I put a cone around her neck and the cuts have healed but the skin problem is the same, I used sulfur lym dip on all of them but it made one cat sick and the smell is so bad.
I was wondering if your treatment can be used on Cats and if so how would you recommend the measurement and how often should I treat them?
Thank you kindly for your time.
EC: Question already answered in the Q&A section: http://www.earthclinic.com/pets/dog_mange_cure_questions.html#Question_1597
04/22/2009: Janice from Mcdonough, Ga.: "i have a 14 yr old cockerspaniel with red mange. i read the many testimonials and would love to try the peroxide and borax. i am afraid of all the toxic in the dip from the vet."cookie" also has chronic yeast infections in both ears. would the borax solution help this? i got confused about how much to use with what from the post i read about the solution. seems every one had different answers to the amounts to use and how often to use it. can someone clear this up for me? i would like to get started right away. thank you."Replies
05/13/2010: Tina from Garden Grove, Ca replies: "I have used Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth with the Peroxide instead of the Borax and it worked great. I even put just it in their food to kill all parasites including worms."
05/15/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskachewan replies: "Hi: Where did you get your food grade Diatomaceous Earth? Do you trust it? Thanks"
06/03/2010: Lisa from Wichita Falls, Texas replies: "Hi Mary, I got my DE from Wolf Creek Ranch online."
06/06/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan replies: "Hi Lisa:
Obviously you trust this company. could you go over how you used it for me. I believe my little dog may have worms. Have you ever taken it?
06/07/2010: Lisa from Wichita Falls, Texas replies: "Hi Mary! I just put a heaping teaspoon in some wet food. If you will go to their website, they have all kinds of info on the DE. How much to give(you can't give too much, it will not hurt the pet), what uses DE has. Good luck!!"
06/07/2010: J.s. from Portland, Oregon replies: "For Mary of Regina, Saskchewan: I personally have taken Food Grade Diatomacous Earth internally for 2 years. My husband, children, and parents also have been taking it. We use it twice a year (spring/fall) to eliminate any bad bugs that may be hiding in our bodies. All of my pets (cats,dogs,guinea pigs)are given it in their food once a month. I buy mine at a ware house here in portland, but have bought products from wolf creek ranch and was happy with them. We have never had side effects. There is a cleansing period when first starting so start with small doses and get larger with each day."
06/09/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan replies: "Hi JS: Thanks for telling me this it makes me feel safer. Is the bag labelled food grade? do all the same precautions exist? Like dont breath it in? Etc lung damage. Also how much do you take 2x per year and for how long? and about your dogs, how much and when do you give it to them. Mine are 10 lbs each.
Any more info would be greatly appreciated.
07/08/2010: J.S. from Portland, Oregon replies: "Reply to Mary from Regina, Saskatchewan: sorry it took so long to reply, been on month long vacation. All precautions should be taken with DE even food grade. My animal get one teaspoon per 10 pounds daily for one week to ensure all parasites are dead. I make sure to clean up any fecal matter daily so not to reinfect them. When I first started giving them DE, I gave each 1/2 a teaspoon for 3 days then went to a whole teaspoon. I gave this everyday for the first month, after that I just give them a teaspoon for one week each month as a preventive. My parents only give it to their dog every three months for a week, however he never leaves their property and ours tours with us. My family takes 1 tablespoon with yogurt in morning for one week in February and another week in September. Sometimes if someone is feeling ill (stomach stuff) I will have them take a weeks dose. Any time something is ingesting it I make sure it is with wet food so it won't be breathed in. Hope this helps!"
[YEA] 04/20/2009: Tracey D from Clinton, MS: "I have read just about all the posts here. I too, was much like many of you in that I wanted to help my animal. Max, our mixed shepard/rottie was an animal rescue. We have had him for 4 years and he had been an inside dog for the most part(except to go outside to potty). Recently we moved to a much smaller place. He started displaying behaviors that were not good. I thought that maybe he was unhappy with the new place and would be much happier out in the country where he could run. My parents live on 10 acres and were willing to take him in, but he would be an outside dog.He had been out there at least two week when I noticed his head. At first I thought that he had simply scraped the top of his head. I could smell that it was some sort of infection. So I started putting Ivarest on it. Well the next day my mother called me and told me that it was looking worse. So I went back out there the following day (2 hours round trip)to look at it again. I took good notes as to the way it looked. So I did some research and came up with the diagnosis that it was sarcoptic mange and that stress does not make it better. So I did a search on treatments and found this site. I have heard about the burned oil treatment but I also thought about the damage it could to to my pooches internal organs too.(it sounded so wives taleish) It wasn't an option. I gathered up all the materials I needed(the lady at the store looked at me like I had the some infectious disease, because I bought all the Hydrogen Peroxide that they had on the shelf). I have to mix at least a 1/2 gallon to make sure he is throughly soaked. The first week it looked awful,the top of his head and his snout and a couple of spots on his check were raw and crusty. (I have only been treating him once a week)Not that I recommend anyone do this but I did and it helped him. I gave him one prednisone for 5 days (my dad gave it to him in a piece of ice cream sandwich, that way he doesn't stop to smell the meds.He just inhales the ice cream, meds and all. If he had stopped to chew it, he would find the pill and spit it out). After that week was up, I went back out for the second treatment. Same mixture that the Doc prescribes(1-3-2), except now he gets a benadryl every other day to keep him from knawing. I am now on about the 4th week of treatment, once a week, and there are no new raw spots and his hair is trying to sprout back out in some places. He never went completely bald in any of his spots. I took before pictures and I will take after pictures when he is completely cured. "We" plan on bringing him back home when I know he is free and clear. (We have a cat at home and I do not want to go through this again)But once Max is better I will email pictures.)It just isn't worth it to me to leave him in the country anymore. He doesn't seem happy around other dogs, he is a people person kind of dog.I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating this site. Otherwise I would not have known what to do because currently we do not have the money for those expensive vet visits. It is reasonably priced and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get them better."Replies
05/08/2009: Tracey from Clinton, MS USA replies: "I have been treating Max for 6 weeks @ once a week and he is completely healed but as a precaution I will continue the treatment for a few more weeks. I have photos of before and after but I do not see where I can email these or post them. Please advise. Thanks again for being a life saver. I am a true believer in this method of treatment and would recommend this to anyone who has a pet that is going through the mange!"
EC: We'd love to post your photos. Please send them to: firstname.lastname@example.org. (I use SpamArrest for my email account, so the first email must be verified after you send it). Thank you!
[YEA] 04/19/2009: Michelle from Smithfield, Queensland, Australia: "My 5 month old blue heelerXlabXborder collie pup recently developed demodectic mange (diagnosed from this site). She was losing fur from around her eyes, then her muzzle over a time frame of several weeks. Then I started to find lumpy, crusty sores along her body, and her balding areas were starting to become quite wrinkled. I came upon this site looking for an answer to what it may have been, and also a natural cure, and started using Ted's mange cure. My solution was made of 3% hydrogen peroxide, mixed 1:3 parts water, with borax mixed in until it no longer dissolved. Applied solution every week for 4 weeks, and the mange is now completely cured. The first time I applied it to her, I was concerned as it was around her face that the worst of the mange was. I was sure that she would put up a fuss about it, however, it was as if she seemed to know that it was going to help her, as she stood quietly while I sponged the solution all around her eyes, mouth & body. Now, 8 weeks later, her fur is back to being sleek & smooth, and it was as if she never had anything wrong with her. I am a complete convert!!! As per Ted's instructions, I never washed her, and made sure the solution dried on her coat. Also, as I learnt that mange can be more prevalent with a stressed immune system, I looked at ways to improve her diet. I've been making my own dog stew, (which she absolutely loves!!), and this includes plenty of veggies, sesame seeds, and wheatgerm. I also give her a heaped tablespoon of natural yoghurt on top of it, and she loves the yoghurt so much, she eats this first before anything else. For the first 4 weeks, I also added between 1-3 tablespoons of Olive Leaf Extract as an added boost. Ted, your cure is amazing. You saved me a fortune in vet bills, and my dog is cured without any nasty, harmful chemicals. Thank goodness for this website, what a wonderful service you provide. Keep up the fantastic work!"
04/18/2009: Angel from Austin, Tx: "I used the ted's 1 cup of hp and 3 tbp of borax 2 cups of h2o just today on my chi but I have kids and other dog. do we all need to be treated? he was not that bad. his name is charlie and he's a chihuahua. I got him from a ad in the paper and he look sick right off the bat and he smelled bad and had a lil rash on he's ears. the lady who sold him to me said he had he's shots and he was just sleepy and scared when she handed him to me but I knew somthing was wrong but I just took him so he could have a better home and a chance in life I'm so happy there are people like you that have a heart to help others I hope he gets better but if you can let me know if I have to treat my kids and myself and well it work on us as well thank you so much ur the best!"
04/15/2009: Kelly from Chehalis, WA, USA: "Hi, I'm anxious to try the peroxide and borax dip because after reading this site I'm convinced our lab's problem must be mange. Every day last year, I could sweep a large pile of dander and hair in the room where she sleeps. She'd lost most of her fur, but since there are other animals i just assumed it was allergic reaction to fleas. We put flea meds on them all at about the same time that summer weather finally arrived here. Also we moved to the countryside, where she likes to be outside rolling in the grass when it's sunny and dry.- Which is only a short time of the year around this part of the world. She grew back a nice shiny black coat a hadn't seen in years, looked like she'd gained weight back even. So naturally i assumed it was because the flea medicine had worked and she had nothing to make her so itchy anymore.
But, then came ol' neverending rainy season, with her spending most of her time indoors. Now, once again since last fall, she has gone right back to being the most pathetic looking animal ever. Constant scratching. Now, I've come to a conclusion that it may be mange afterall. When I did an online search for human head lice cures, I came across sites selling ultra-violet light wands for sanitizing and killing lice and flea eggs, it said. NOW it makes perfect sense why she improved so much in the summer, if u.v. light is really effective in killing germs and parasite eggs!!! So maybe some of your readers out there who are wondering how to sanitize their dog's sleeping quarters can try the lites and tell us if it is effective. And I highly suspect it will be.
04/07/2009: Vanessa from Woodbridge, NJ: "my three year od yorkshire terrier (bella) has had mange for about a year. I've been seaching for home remedies because the dips and baths don't seem to be helping. Most of them say to do the borax-hydrogen peroxide-and water mix but i cant find borax any where. I just wanted to know where i can buy it?"
EC: More information here: http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
04/09/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV/USA replies: "It's in the detergent isle at wally world aka wal-mart. It's usually on the top shelf opposite the detergents. It's popular and they go out of it quick..so if you find it..buy two or more..won't be there when you go back."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 04/06/2009: Leah from Surrey, British Columbia, Canada: "I have a 10 month shar pei, named penny and I just started using ted's solution. Shar pei's are known to have skin problems, and I was wondering what you can use in conjunction with ted's solution to sooth her skin so she won't be so itchy? I think the solution is working, but I can tell that from the treatment, her skin is completely dried out. Any suggestions?
[YEA] 04/06/2009: Margaret Swank from Houston, TX: "Just wanted to tell Ted his remedy for dog mange is a lifesaver. To date I have spent over $139.00 on various creams/lotions/etc. None of them worked except the tar shampoo bought at a local pet store. However, when I used Ted's mange cure he recommended , "mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax", for the first time in weeks, my dog is playful, and not constantly biting and scratching himself. I have only used this one time too. I plan to use it every week, till his hair grows back, and has his beautiful coat once again. thank you again Ted, and Earth clinic."
04/01/2009: Charron from Middletown, NY: "I have a few questions for TED or anyone who can provide answers/experience.
I have been trying the Mange Cure for aprox 2.5 weeks. Our puppy has had mange, treated with Mitaban dip (8 of em) and at the final dip follow up there were still live mites. Her hair stayed thin on the top of her head then one stressful day she had a breakout. I tried the good win ol and still no improvement. I came across this site and did the H2O2 1 cup, 2 cups water and 3-4 tbsp Borax solution 4 days in a row since she progressed so fast into elephant skin on her neck. I had noticed that the solution was stinging my arms so I switched to the ACV with Mother 1 cup, 2 cups water and 3-4 tbsp mixture and after 1 week of H2O2 treatment and 1 week of ACV treatment the pustules are no longer pussy, but still bumpy. I let her air dry, and at times will even spray the solution on problem areas between baths.
Some of them are filled with blood instead of puss. Is that normal?
There is minor hair re-growth happening on her head and neck, but my boyfriend is rather dissapointed that she has relapsed after such expensive vet treatment (mitaban) and is wondering if she will ever recover fully.
How long does it typically take for a large localized (head/neck, 50% hocks, and armpits) case to heal? Since this is my first time using this treatment I don't have an answer for him and am trying to vie for more time to prove this treatment works. Otherwise... you know what most vets suggest for cases that relaps so quickly and vigorously... If I can prove this works I need to stand by a time line.
Also, She is heavily scratching her ears and shaking her head. Is there anything I can do to help her stop being so itchy in her ears?
To help her from the inside I am giving her one garlic tablet in the morning, 2-3 tsp ACV in her drinking water with a parasite tincture (10-20 drops), salmon oil in her kibble (Innova high protein), and just started with sulfur homeopathic pearls. If she is particularly itchy I give her a 25mg benadryl.
I am really trying and need to know if I am doing the right thing, if I need to modify something.
I tried to put a cone on her to stop the itching or licking and that stressed her out way too much. She ran into the wall and eventually just froze. Since stress is a big trigger I will not be doing that again...
Your advice and all the comments have been wonderful, but now that I am sort of fighting for her life, I want to make sure that I am doing everything possible to help her get through this and live a happy and healthy life."
04/09/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV USA replies: "It sounds as though you are doing everything right. You sound a bit like me. I wanted an instant cure. It actually took just over two months to get him well. Go to page two and look at his pictures and read everything I did. Your dog might benefit from the listerine/babyoil/water solution which I also found on this site...just try everything...including a good diet, a vitamin and mine love the yeast/garlic pills which also helps. Are you washing it's toys, cleaning where he/she lays or spends time. I use ACV in a spray bottle and spray every where..carpets, toys, bedding. Ruff is better but I still rinse him at least once a month with the solution. He goes off into the hills (dont' have a fence up YET) and I have no idea what he comes in contact with. Just read through everyone's suggestions and don't stop...if anything you may have to bathe them every three days. Good luck."
[YEA] 03/30/2009: The Bruce from Manila, Philippines: "I tried TED'S REMEDY FOR MANGE CURE. I used the 500ml of hydrogen peroxide and 1000ml water then 3 scoops (2-3 tablespoon per scoop)of Borax (MULE brand) and poured it slowly on my 2 labradors after their normal bath, Ange (Angelina Jolie) and Brad (Brad Pitt), my kids named the labs. I do this once a week but I give their normal bath after 2-3 days using a commercial shampoo for mange cure as well. Ted's remedy really works. I already used his remedy for 3 weeks (once a week) now and my 4 month old labs are really getting better. Their hair are growing back slowly but surely. Once totally cured, I will send you their before and after photos. PLEASE USE THIS REMEDY, IT REALLY WORKS! Thanks, TED!"
EC: Thank you -- we'd love to post your photos!
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 03/29/2009: Tammi from Alva, Florida, USA: "I have a small mixed breed dog - Lhasa Apso/Maltese/Poodle/Terrier? She is 10 years old and has had recurring Demodex mange for about the last three years. It is mostly on her paws. I have tried Mitaban dips several times, it works temporarily but then the mange returns. Most recently, I tried Ivomec and my dog had a horrible seizure. It was the most awful frightening experience I have ever had. I vowed to try an alternative treatment that would be safe for her.
I have been using the Peroxide/water/borax rinse for about 3 weeks now. I have been doing it about once a week. When I treat her, she does stop itching for a day or two, but then the itching returns and her feet get very red. Yesterday, when I tried to treat her paws, she wouldn't put her feet in the mixture and then she acted as if the treatment was stinging or burning her paws. I only left it on about 5 minutes and then I felt compelled to rinse her paws with fresh water so they didn't hurt. Today, however, her paws aren't as red and irritated as they were yesterday, and she isn't licking them at all.
Do I need to do the treatment on a daily basis for awhile in order to help her improve quicker? I am praying that this works - I can't do the Ivomec again and I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions would really be appreciated!! Thank you so much!"Replies
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The premises has not been sterilized with borax and peroxide. Also the paws don't suppose to be rinsed. Normally a 1% concentration don't sting (except for higher concentration). Maybe there is a fresh wounds that caused the stinging. In any case if it does sting, with the resultant solution, the best way is to rinse with a borax solution WITHOUT the hydrogen peroxide instead, since a borax solution doesn't sting and just spray the premise with the borax and peroxide to prevent reinfection. Most commercial preparations for dog are toxic or neurotoxic, including the popular pyrethrins which leads to serious loss of appetite.
It's the borax and peroxide that is the safest I can find, so apparently proper application and procedures is the way to go.
04/01/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV USA replies: "In response to using the treatment everyday. I would. I hadn't paid close enough attention and was only using it once a week. If you can't then at least fix up a spray bottle of the solution, making sure you dilute the hydrogen peroxide ( one part peroxide ~ two parts water. I add the borax prior to adding the two parts water.) and spray this on your dogs paws. It will work slower but it will help."
[YEA] 03/29/2009: Lisa from Eugene, Oregon: "I used 1 cup of 3% hydrogen peroxide, 2 cups of warm water and 3 tablespoons of borax. I cannot believe that my 9 1/2-year old Lhasa Apso is sleeping comfortably right here in front of my. Charlie has been itching himself like crazy which has caused him to bleed. I thought that his flea medication wasn't working and that he was reacting to flea bites but luckily my girlfriend mentioned mange the other day and then today it dawned on me that his black spots were actually spreading, that, oh, my goodness, Charlie has mange!!Like many others on this site, I have already spent $1,600 on trying to cure my dog of demodicosis (mites) possible food allergies, possible flea allergies, and a possible dermatitis with various medications, none of which are good for dogs in trying to cure the sweet little guy. Charlie is already on good dog food and I add Omega 3 oil to his food and another very nutritional supplement powder which is why I think he has had such a quick and fantastic reaction with only one treatment of the borax, hydrogen peroxide and water solution. I am so very, very grateful for this website. Charlie and I thank you both and to everyone else who posted their results."Replies
01/26/2010: Pug Owner In Alberta from Calgary, Alberta Canada replies: "Did you have to treat the couches and bedding and such as well? They live in the hair follicle so nothing I have read other than at this site has said that you have to treat the bedding and premises as well.
I treat my pug, who is 9 months old, the skin looks white again, and then they have moved, onto his feet, or his face. I am giving him an immune booster in his food as well. But do I have to treat the whole house?"
03/28/2009: Elaine from Phoenix, AZ: "Ted,
If my pets have SARCOPTIC MANGE, I understand to use Revolution from the vet on them, correct? But, what do I do about my bedding, yard, and ME...Do you know if the Borax or Boric Acid work on killing these horrific creatures? I have having a really tough time finding any information about cleaning up the surrounding environments.
Please help, soon!
04/01/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV USA replies: "When Ruff had sarcoptic mange he and Daisy were on the Revolution. I was never bothered by it and neither was Daisy. I did use ACV in a spray bottle on the beds and areas where he liked to lay. I also washed his bedding/toys in the washer with hot soapy water at least once a week. The revolution cleared it up but I think it was too strong for him (he was only 14 wks old) and he developed demodectic mange, which I cured using Ted's solution of Hydrogen Peroxide/20 Mule team borax and Water."
04/12/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "There is a newer species or certain change in the behavior of these creatures. In that formerly they make eggs and live on the dog. Now their behavior has changed where they might leave the dog or eggs are now laid not just on the dogs but on surrounding environment. When that happens, the use of tannic acid solution or a preferred hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution is sprayed on to the area to sterilized them. During sterilization it has to be done a couple of times, but the dog has to be quarantined in the area during sterilization until there is no single eggs left over. That means it is sprayed with borax peroxide 4 or 5 times in the same area. During the quarantine the dog is dipped in peroxide and borax solution a couple of times before returning on the same spot again.
The major problem appears to be that most people do it this way. They dip the dog in the peroxide and borax. Then they let the dog run in former area. However the former area is infested so the dog get reinfected.
Another mistake is this: the dog is dipped, and the area is sterilized. What happens is either the dog or the premise is not all rid off. So if the dog has a few eggs left or the premise has a few eggs left, the dog becomes reinfected. That's because it takes time for the mange to die. It requires at least 5 days of frequent sterilization for this to work for a complete die off of both the dog and the premise. The dog and the premise has to be sterilized and the dog has to be in a different location, during the sterilization. To prevent reinfection. This is not a perfect scheme because most of the problem is the premise simply was not completely sterilized and then there's the dog where the mange was not completely killed. It's not a perfect formula. One addition is a flea collar be put in once the mange is gone.