Chronic Virus Remedies: Q&A
Last Modified on Feb 17, 2012
WHY DIDN'T THE SUPER DOSING OF VITAMIN C WORK TO SUPPRESS MY GENITAL HERPES?
02/17/2012: Rob from Kamloops, Bc: "What should I do for suppressing genital herpes? I have tried the superdosing with Vitamin C for over a month and was at 34 grams a day and still got a full outbreak. So I am thinking this is either a downright lie about VC working or I somehow did it wrong which I doubt as I read and read in the subject and web got the powdered ascorbate as it is the best type to get. So can you or anyone help me out here.. Thanks rob"
02/17/2012: Deborah from Chino Valley, Az replies: "Hi Rob, High dosing of Vit. C doesn't work for every type of body, though can work amazingly well for some. What I have found works well for many is the herb Olive Leaf. It is fantastic for all virally-based infections and for overall liver health. It is renowned for its effectiveness with Herpes-related infections of all kinds (including Shingles).
I'm including a link for an article written by a U. S pharmacist for over 70 years. Of all the treatments he's aware of for Herpes, Olive Leaf is the way he advises to go. Pretty impressive statement from a pharmacist!
Best of luck to you ~"
03/15/2012: Rob from Canada, Bc replies: "Hi Deborah, I have been taking 3 capsules of olive leaf extract for just over two weeks now and just had my biggest outbreak yet :( so I am not sure if it works for me like the Vitamin C and has no effect on me as well. Rob"
03/16/2012: Deborah from Chino Valley, Az replies: "Hi Rob, I'm sorry to hear of the outbreak for the discomfort I'm sure it caused you, but want to encourage you not to give up. It is not uncommon for someone to have an extra-difficult outbreak as the body tries to clear itself of the virus. Remember that the skin is an organ of elimination, thus when it is trying to rid itself of something it will often appear worse. This is not true of every skin issue, but with a virally-based issue it is not uncommon at all. So don't give up too soon or become discouraged.
Also, your system might require a little additional support. If it was me, I would add in about 20 - 30 mg of zinc picolinate each evening with food to boost the immune system (zinc is often indicated for people who are working to clear herpes infections). I would also add in something a bit stronger than Olive Leaf to work with it as well, and that would be Oil of Oregano. I am including the link from this site that describes other users success with this oil in healing from Herpes.
If you scroll down the page about half-way, "Cured from Windy City" begins a post you may want to read.
Best brand of oregano oil I've come across is Oreganol, but there may be others.
So between the Olive Leaf, Zinc Picolinate and Oil of Oregano you will have a pretty potent combination of substances. Do not be discouraged if a difficult outbreak occurs as your body tries to heal itself. As the link above describes, the same thing happened to that reader and I have definitely seen this happen to others.
Be persistent, I'm sure you will find what helps you the most.
Best of luck, Deborah"
06/22/2013: Anonymous from San Fran, California replies: "First off, all vitamin C are not equally effective. I was taking Vitamin C capsules, then I read about a Vitamin C that is equivalent to getting a vitamin C IV. Lypo-Spheric is a liquid packet Vitamin C - it is the strongest oral Vitamin C ever. It has nanospheric particles are absorbed fully into the liver."
Loss of Taste and Smell After Virus
11/01/2008: Edward Stern from Escondido, California: "I lost my sense of taste and smell. I had a cat scan done and I was told that a virus got into my nose and permantly destroyed my taste buds. CAN anyone help me?"
11/23/2009: Jeff from Shawnee, Ks/usa replies: "any luck with the loss of taste/smell? my mom lost hers about 5 yrs. ago after a virus."
09/14/2011: Shreela from Houston, Tx replies: "My former FIL had a friend that lost his sense of taste supposedly from a zinc defiency. According to my former FIL, his friend's sense of taste took over 6 months to return. This friend was very overweight and the loss of taste "helped" the friend lose a lot of weight. I don't remember why the friend's zinc became so low."
Flu and Sore Throat for Over 2 Weeks
05/10/2008: Gene from Gatineau, QC, Canada: "Hi. I've been stuck with a flu and a sore throat for over 2 weeks and I suspect that my immune system is low. I've started to do internet research on natural cures but it seems that everything I encounter that might be of help, I also find another site that contradicts the product's claim for healing properties. For example, quite a lot of posts on this site praise ACV for quite a few ailments. I wished to try it out then after more research, I came across this article by Beth Fontenot, who is a nutrition consultant and freelance nutrition writer in Lake Charles, LA. She serves on the adjunct faculty at both McNeese State University in Lake Charles and Lamar University in Qrange, TX. who claims: "There is no scientific evidence that apple cider vinegar has any medicinal properties. While the folksy anecdotes from those who claim to have benefited from apple cider vinegar tonics may be amusing to read, they are simply that -- anecdotes."
"Apple cider vinegar is anything but a storehouse of nutrients. A nutritional analysis of one tablespoon (more than the one or two teaspoons suggested to make a tonic) reveals that the golden liquid contains less than a ram of carbohydrate: minuscule amounts of calcium, iron, magnesium, sodium. copper, manganese, and phosphorus; and a mere 15 mg of potassium. The fiber, vitamin, and amino acid content is zero."
"As for the presence of any beneficial enzymes in apple cider vinegar or the "mother," food scientists doubt that any could thrive in the acid environment of the vinegar. Assuming any were present, though, they would be destroyed in the acid of the stomach when consumed and be of no use to the body."
Unfortunately, this is one of many examples of contradictions I've come across for just about any herb, spice, juice, etc. I would like to try.
In conclusion, I wish there were sites that agree on the healing properties of certain natural products but it seems to be quite a controversial issue.
Meanwhile, I'm still stuck off and on with the flu (tried the Cayenne concoction but it interfered with my anti-seizures (epilepsy) drug), I'm drinking green tea (found contradictions for that one too), purchased a bottle of high-quality Spirulina which is still unopened on account of certain warnings I found, etc.
So, any suggestions? Please don't tell me I should see a doctor, I'll only end-up with antibiotics that do more harm than good.. Thanks, Gene."
09/04/2009: B from Elkland, Mo replies: "Food grade hydrogen peroxide therapy. Lookit up, works for a lot of things. really works great. Buy at health food store."
10/12/2012: Shanade21 from Brisbane, Qld, Australia replies: "Have you tried kombucha tea? Very high in probiotics which is good for your imune system. Has ohter benefits as well such as protecting your body from cancer etc. The only thing you need to be careful of is that it can thin your blood so be careful about that. Other than that it is a super product and can be bought in health food stores, organic supermarkets etc. You can also learn to make it yourself. Just google "How to make Kombucha tea." Worth while. Hope you get better."
Adenoids and Croup in Child
12/13/2007: Anonymous : "Hello Ted, I have a 3 year old son. He is very active and was fine and healthy up until he was 18 months old. When he was 18 months old, he developed a really bad case of croup virus. He started with a really bad barking cough so we took him to the doctors. She said it is a virus and will cure by itself. Then he developed really high fevers and trouble breathing, vomitting. 2 days later we had to take him to the emergency room because he was turning blue. His eyes also had green mucus coming out of them. He had not kept any food or drink down for 2 days. When we took him to the emergency they gave him some medicine to inhale through oxygen mask and said he also had infection in both ears. Ever since then, even if he gets a little cold or virus, his aednoids get swollen shut and he cannot breathe through his nose, and his tonsils also become big. He develops sleep apnea and keeps turning blue every couple of seconds because he can't breathe through his nose and keeps waking up. He can't sleep properly, and when he tries to breathe through his mouth his throat gets very dry and he starts coughing and vomiting a lot. Within 2 days he looses a lot of wieght and turns very pale. He is 3 and still doesn't talk properly. Only says some words, does not say sentences. It is affecting his growth and his body goes through a lot of stress whenever he gets sick. I have 2 older kids who go to school and when ever they get some virus from school, my 3 year old also gets it from them and then this whole thing starts with aednoids and breathing problems and so on. I worry very much about him and the specialist has said he needs surgery to remove his aednoids and tonsils. In the beginning I did not want him to go through surgery but now i am thinking I should get it done for him, because he has to go through so much pain all the time when ever he gets some virus or cold. I am pregnant with another child and am worried how I will take care of new baby when my 3 year old is so sick, and it is also very tiring for me to be awake so many nights. It has caused me to become a high risk pregnancy. Please can you tell me some thing to cure aednoids problem because I have researched a lot and am unable to find anything for aednoids. I did try homeopathic and it helped a little in the begining but now that does not work on him either. My husband says we should get his surgery done by next month, so I have come to you for help, to see if there is something besides surgery, that just might work. please when you tell me the things to use, could you also tell me where to get them, because some of the things you have mentioned on the site I have never heard of before. I will be waiting for your reply. God bless you for all the people you help. Take care. Oh and I have one question. is it ok to take acv during pregnancy"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "A common remedy of virus is licorice extract one teaspoon usually for a child but its taken twice a day. An adult dose will be one tablespoon. Certain virus sometimes get killed almost instantly (not 100%) with one drop of peppermint oil in 1/2 glass of water, well stirred. It is more helpful if 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda is added to the drinking water, of 1/2 glass with 3 drops of 3% H2O2, taken three times a day.
The body is going through acidosis and virus seems to grow. Hence, some supplement of zinc gluconate, such as 25 mg taken once every two days, based on my own experience seems to do the trick.
There are other antiviral remedies but it should be noted that my experience with people who had removal of the tonsils and other things, the first line of defense is removed and the viruses goes deeper into the body. Generally to avoid the problem, common remedies here usually do the trick. An alternative to the baking soda remedy is the following, that seems to help too:
1/4 teaspoon baking soda in 1/2 glass of water, 3 drops of H2O2 slow sipping 10 cc every ten minutes, until no more. The sore throat should reduce thereafter.
Then followed a drop of peppermint in 1/2 glass of water to help with the coughing. This one need not take in its entirety and can be taken whenever there's a cough. It is the only known remedy that has helped with my coughing consistently.
A lemon juice with some water is taken to further kill the virus. Is finally taken.
The three step has helped me reduce a severe sore throat using those and if I was a child, that is the remedy I will use.
It should be noted that zinc lozenges are available. A homemade nasal spray can be made with 5% xylitol and 5% sea salt, if some people have an appropriate nasal spray. Although I tend to use an ultrasonic humidifier where I smell the fog directly. Of course, I don't know if that device is available in other countries, but I often improvise from whatever devices are there in the market.
One small thing: peppermint is antiviral and seems to help with the ear infections too, if peppermint vapors happens to reach the appropriate areas.
Adding sea salt 1 teaspoon per liter of drinking water also helps kill the virus with greater salinity buildup in the body. It helps if 10 drops of H2O2 3% is added there too, food grade of course."
Chills and Fatigue
08/03/2007: Shari : "Dear Ted, I have had chills for approx. 6 weeks.I am not feverish, although I do feel very fatigued, unwell & it's gone on so long it's starting to effect my positive outlook. I take a Multi-Supplement, B, complex, 2000 of vitamin C, Calcium and Magnesium. The newer things I'm trying are oil pulls, ACV-Honey-Cayenne Pepper & have increased my garlic capsules to approximately 4000 mg. a day. My health had felt better than it had since a back surgery, resulting from a freak accident 15 months ago, by adding the natural cures. My blood pressure is great, in large part due to the garlic caps. I believe this started when I went out of my country and caught a very bad stomach virus. Since then I have had 2 urinary tract infections and more stomach problems. I think the infections may be cured, but the chills and fatigue are continuing and even worsening. Please if you any suggestions I'd be so grateful."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Shari: Chills are viral in nature. So I would consider taking zinc gluconate and the other one that helped me was either cinnamon toothpicks, or a toothpick soaked clove oil and is dipped in a cup of water. The antiviral nature of the clove or sometimes cinnamon should reduce the chills. However, it is important, at least for me under that condition to add 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) in 1/2 glass of water taken twice or sometimes three times a day on an empty stomach. Alkalinity, zinc and clove are antiviral in nature and has helped me on many ocassions. However, in event of a chill or virus, I prefer to avoid oil pulling since body whenever it has the chills needs to reduce the oil or fat load, and is required whenever the body has the chills."
Burnt and Red Hands After Getting Virus
10/04/2006: Anthony from Cary, NC: "hello, I have been a firm believer of earthclinic. and i have told many people about it. I have a problem and im desperate for help. my natural healer doesn't seem to have any idea what i have.. and i went to a MD and all he wanted to do is try drugs on me. this is what is wrong. I had flu like symtoms almost 2 weeks ago. i had the fever ,the coughing, so after my fever was gone after a few days.. i started gettin these red marks on my hands.. i didnt pay to much attation to it. and after the 3rd day my hands and feet look like there burnt there red and my finger tips are hard and i have very little feeling in them.. it feels like i placed my hands and feet iin boiling water my hands are hot to the touch also.. my feet are not as bad as my hands but when i walk on my feet it feels like i have a bad case of athlete's foot.. my ph is a little acid and my urine is the same. Im also a vegin i have not eating meat for 10 yrs now. do you have any idea what can be wrong or what i can do... what i did i did the bath with the acv. i also boiled acv and inhaled it... i would mix it in with tea and drink it also.. and i tried the inhaleing of proxicide. all that did was put me in a fog. i been eating fresh garlic. once my hands started to burn bad i stopped eating all together.. i try to eat soups just to keep food in me. before i was sick i was 270 . 3 weeks later im 247.. and my energy level from 1-10 is a 4. any advice would be great, thank you."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "
Dear Anthony: Whatever conditions you have, you must treat the conditions that are obvious to you first. That means to correct whatever imbalances present in your body.
my ph is a little acid and my urine is the same.
Your body appears to have bicarbonate deficiency. The best ways to raise your pH to near normal conditions is to take 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda and 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid to 1/2 glass of water, twice a day, once in the morning and once before bedtime. Allow the fizz to stop. This usual practice allows the body to absorb the needed bicarbonates and correct the acid/alkaline imbalances without the interference of foods you eat. If you can't get the citric acid, a good suitable substitute is lemon. Take one whole freshly squeezed lemon, that means you do it then and there, and add 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda. The lemon is superior than citric acid in one way in that it has the vitamin C. The downside is that it has some sugar.
I tend to be a purist and add vitamin C separately to raise my negative ORP and pH at the same time. However this is individual preference. The other formula appears to be 1/4 teaspoon ascorbic acid plus 1/4 teaspoon baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid. It is little larger dose here due to limitations of measurements.
I'm also a vegan i have not eating meat for 10 yrs now.
Four deficiencies common in vegan, iron, zinc, vitamin B12, amino acid imbalance. I will usually take vitamin B complex where most of the Bs are about 100 mg., three times a day. B12 might have absorption problems so getting a B12 injections will help. Taking some soy protein supplements will definitely help to balance the protein imbalances. Depending on how strict your vegan is, a whey protein is an extract of cow's milk. It is also rich in protein also.
Zinc supplements in form of zinc acetate, common therapeutic dose is between 25-50 mg/day. You can also try amino acid chelate, if need be.
To increase iron, the best ways is to take plenty of vitamin C. The preferred vitamin C is sodium ascorbate, which is a more alkaline form of vitamin C. If not just get ascorbic acid powder and mix with plenty of baking soda to neutralize it. More vitamin C will enhance iron absorption.
Eating plenty of seeds will enchance more minerals your body needs, such as pumpkin seeds (rich in zinc), sunflower seeds (rich in magnesium), and brazil nuts (rich in selenium). Consider eating some other seeds too such as apricot seeds and apple seeds. It is high in B17. You don't need to eat a lot for apricot and apple seeds. Just eat one or two fruits a day along with the seeds just to get the bases covered.
I had flu like symtoms almost 2 weeks ago i had the fever the coughing, so after my fever was gone after a few days.. i started gettin these red makes on my hands.
This condition I have seen cured overnight just by taking vitamin B complex, zinc, selenium, garlic, freshly squeezed lemon juice plus baking soda, and plenty of vitamin C.
Please monitor your pH until you reach normal levels. At the time, you should be o.k. Vary your dosage of baking soda accordingly. Some people consume more bicarbonates, some people less. The pH is an easy way to tell.
This is just the basics as more complicated ones require buying difficult to find salts. However this should be more than enough. Ted"
07/09/2011: Ron from Mesa, Arizona replies: "I live in Mesa Arizona and I would like to get some B12 shots but need a doctors note. Anyway around this?"
Virus for 6 Weeks
09/25/2006: Paula from Lancaster, OH: "I have had this virus for about a month and a half now. I felt like I had gotten better about 2 weeks ago and then it came back with a vengence.Low grade fever every day, plugged ears, severe cough,postnasal drip, sore throat, swollen spleen, swollen glands, fatigue. My daughter has same symptoms and was diagnosed via blood test with mono. I am pretty sure thats what I have too. I am desperate for an antivral cure. Have tried crushed garlic 3 x day w/ no effect.I inhale saline every 2 hours thru nose. Antibiotics were tried in the beginning before the mono dianosis with no result.Tried Cayenne pepper gargle which relieves the sore throat but I am looking for a more permanent solution. I was told that olive leaf extract will kick the virus but I cannot find any info on it. Does anyone have any they could pass on?"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Paula: You need to raise your body's immune system first before trying some external remedies. Take plenty of zinc acetate supplements like 25-50 mg. of it per day. IF you cannot find zinc acetate, then zinc citrate, zinc gluconate or zinc chloride will do. The other thing is making about 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda to 1/2 glass of water with 12 drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide. Take a slow small sip (about 5 cc per sip) over the course of about 2 or 3 hours should where the interval of sips is around 15 minute each. This should kill the throat viruses. This is a more permanent cure. Ted"