Cure for Rosacea: Q&A
Last Modified on May 06, 2013
- RETURN TO MAIN SECTION
- Need Alternative Treatment for Rosacea
- Is It Okay to Drink Hydrogen Peroxide in This Rosacea Remedy From Ted?
- Would Laser Treatment Work for Rosacea at 14 Yrs. Old?
- Questions on Borax Use for Rosacea
- How Best to Use Borax/ Hydrogen Peroxide for Rosacea?
- Rosacea Acne Help From Ted
- Borax and Peroxide Questions for Acne Rosacea
- Borax Remedy for Rosacea - Time Frame of Treatment
- TED'S REMEDIES
- Question About Saturated Borax
- Sensitivity to Lavender Treatment
- Red Face with Broken Capilaries
- Side Effects of Borax
- Borax Internally to Combat Rosacea
- CREAMS HAVEN'T WORKED
Need Alternative Treatment for Rosacea
05/06/2013: BB from Anon: "Hi Ted, I have been doing your rosacea treatment from Earth Clinic very consistently for several months now (internally and externally), but I have not noticed any improvement... I have redness across my cheeks and nose. Within the last week it has progressed to a burning red forehead as well. I don't believe the treatment is working and I am about to give up. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated."
05/07/2013: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Yes, I would try a beta glucan paste. This seems to work too, ideally mixed with humic acid. You can pre-apply bentonite clay paste to get out the toxins, and then try the beta glucan paste. The paste may be mixed with water or witch hazel water. There are several kinds of rosacea, since rosacea is rare in Thailand, those that i deal with are always successfully treated. The rosacea I had most recently in Thailand seems to respond very quickly to a solution of tetrasodium edta used as soap, the use of myristin as topical and internal, borax solution to be used topically as well as internally, and sodium molybdate as a supplement taken internally. There are several causes of rosacea, either from inflammation in which case only bentonite clay paste applied to the skin does a good job. Then there is rosacea cause by demodex mites (for which mustard paste does a good job) and fungus (for which borax, myristin is a good treatment). I cannot cover every possible cause as I only have clients with rosacea once a year. If many more cases, I can cover many more causes. If it doesn't work it generally doesn't take long to know, from a couple of days to 2 weeks to know that something is missing.
Is It Okay to Drink Hydrogen Peroxide in This Rosacea Remedy From Ted?
04/25/2012: Beccabear122 from Green Bay, Wisconsin, US: "Hi, I have a question about Ted's Remedy for rosacea. I have seen the updated version in which it talks about adding 1/8 to 1/4 tsp of Borax AND 30 drops 3% hydrogen peroxide to a liter of drinking water. Is this correct? I have done the Borax before and had no side effects, but drinking hydrogen peroxide? Is this really okay? Just confirming... Thank you!"
04/29/2012: G Shannon from Eads, Tennessee replies: "Don't know that I would drink it for something like Rosecea. I might try spraying a 3% solution mixed with aloe. Also, If I hadn't tried it I would take 1500 milligrams of pantothentic acid twice daily. Take once around noon and once prior to bedtime."
Would Laser Treatment Work for Rosacea at 14 Yrs. Old?
02/21/2012: Findafullproofcurerosacea from Phoenix, Arizona, Usa: "I have had rosecea for slightly over half a year now and I am 14 and a half. I HATE how people comment on my red face at school and even teachers say "Oh, I've made you blush" when I'm not embarassed or anxious of anything at that time!!! I have been to a dermatologist and have been prescribed some very good products that have dramatically improved the texture and acne of my cheeks. I was just wondering if having lazer treatment for my Rosacea would damage or have side affects on skin as young as mine?"
04/26/2013: Jasmine from Stafford, Va replies: "OMG!! We have the same issue I have rosacea and I'm 15 and I've had it since 13 my face is red all the time with blood vessels everywhere. I do everything right and where sunscreen use aloe but nothing works... I was considering laser treatment as well. Finally someone my age who knows how it feels to get the question from your classsmates "whys your face so red" hopefully I can cure this constant redness and red capillaries all over my face! Thanks"
04/29/2013: Joy from Battleground, Wash replies: "I just googled rosacea and there was one article that said it could be possible that it is mites under the skin that when they poop it irritates the skin and antibiotics heal the reaction to their poop but not the mites themselves..... Well, go read the article, maybe it will help you if that is what your condition is."
I don't know how much to use. Can I use 1 tsp of borax to 1 tsp of hydrogen peroxide? I am having trouble with the solution though as it is very grainy. I put it on my face and it's very grainy looking. Am I doing this incorrectly? Also, do I have to drink the borax for it to work on my face?Does anyone have any tips on how to measure this appropriately and does the solution have to be grainy for it to work?
How Best to Use Borax/ Hydrogen Peroxide for Rosacea?
02/09/2012: Kim from Akron, Oh, Usa: "Hello, I recently was diagnosed with rosacea but am unsure if demodex is the problem. I want to give borax and HP a try anyway.
I don't know how much to use. Can I use 1 tsp of borax to 1 tsp of hydrogen peroxide? I am having trouble with the solution though as it is very grainy. I put it on my face and it's very grainy looking. Am I doing this incorrectly? Also, do I have to drink the borax for it to work on my face?
Does anyone have any tips on how to measure this appropriately and does the solution have to be grainy for it to work?
Found the Earth Clinic site and hope you can shed any light or give an opinion on my problem..
I have been diagnosed with Rosacea Acne for a couple of years - I am 46 never had great skin but never as bad as this! I have been using Metrogel for a year or two but recently tried Elderberry tablets and fish oils which seem to be helping although having constant but minor breakouts.
However, I have just been learning to Scuba dive in Tenerife (4 days) and have erupted in lumps and bumps and white head spots all over my neck shoulders and face! In your opinion could this be down to the sun, sun creams, saltwater and or pressure (diving max 18 metres) or a combination of all? I have never had this so bad. Used the metrogel everyday as usual.
As I suffer from occasional coldsores (am under a lot of stress at present) and have been advised to try ACV to lower my acid levels I am interested in the posts that suggest use for this kind of acne too and will try it asap!
Many thanks for any advise or info you can give."
08/22/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Metrogel merely suppresses Rosacea Acne. It does have antibacterial properties, but it appears that the cause is the liver and so we need to get rid of toxic buildup in the system, and it is not known for that. The rosacea acne may be a virus, so it will respond to elderberry as well as lysine and andrographis paniculata. Well most of them are viral, but it may have some bacteria too. The problem about rosacea is you can't be exposed to too much sun, that's what causing it, but not likely anything else. As to your question to deep sea diving, that may cause the pores to constrict. Rosacea acne is strange, it comes after the use of accutane or isoretinoin I found also, that suppresses the production of pores responsible for detoxing. Bentonite clay, a wet solution apply on face and fan dry, done three times a day gets rid of toxin buildup. Too much fish oil may worsen the condition so I won't overdo that. Rosacea has a lot of causes, but mainly its toxic buildup, lowered immune system and some deficiency of collagen, where the limiting amino acid is lysine.
09/25/2011: Alex from Miami, Florida replies: "Hello, fungal/parsite infection- you can go with tamu oil, raw coconut oil or dragons blood but yes, get sun properly all over and do a candida cleanse. Am not sure if you got this from the water you said or this was before."
09/30/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Rosacea acne is caused by lipase deficiency and as a result fat doesn't get dissolved, and get clogged. Some things may help reduce it, such as bromelain 10% 1/4 teaspoon three times a day. But if redness from the sun, I found there is B2 deficiency for that one. The bumps are acne too, but they are deep ones, so there you have clogs that go deep. The cause is usually dehydration, from sun and lack of water mostly. Seawater and pressure from deep sea diving actually forces the pores deep in the skin to close up, resulting in bumps you see. It may sometimes help if you wash the face with plain water and drink more water, and take digestive enzymes such as bromelain or others. Vitamin B2 will eliminate the redness.
Borax and Peroxide Questions for Acne Rosacea
07/19/2008: Pat from Ballwin, MO: "I have been using 3% H202 with saturated borax externally 2x/day for acne rosacea. Would I get better results with 1%? That would be more borax and less H202 solution when mixed. Could it be that I would have better results with my rosacea with a higher borax content?Thanks, Pat in St. Louis"
09/23/2008: Laine from PGH, PA replies: "what about using this remedy while breast feeding??"
Borax Remedy for Rosacea - Time Frame of Treatment
05/24/2008: Deborah : "Hi Ted, Thank you so much for all the comments and knowledge on Earth Clinic. I couldn't find anywhere that mentioned how long one should take the 1/8 borax treatment with water or how long to take the alkaline treatment (baking soda, washing soda, water). Can you please let me know what works best. I imagine that both should be taken simultaneously? Thank you!"
05/25/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Deborah:
Most rosacea formulas are taken for 5 days out of a week, such as borax remedy and for the alkaline remedy it is taken at 5-6 days out of a week. The remedy should be taken are often taken for a couple of months (between 2-4 ) until conditions disappear. Thereafter, the alkalization remedy is used as a maintenance to keep it to a minimum. Most of the improvement are from the first couple of months. While I may not have rosacea, the baking soda and other alkalizing remedies I always take for general health and reduced skin inflammation problems.
There is a good reason why the alkalization is taken over the long term: 90% of the foods most people eat is acid forming, and with industrialized farming on growing chickens and pigs, the omega 6 well exceeds omega 3, not only that but heavy metals such as cadmium, uranium, lead are now found in many vegetables we eat. It comes from heavy metals found in fertilizers. Fertilizers for one thing or another, are often overlooked by the FDA. Most of their efforts is spent suppressing alternative medicine, while ignoring toxic heavy metals found in many of the foods. Even bisphenol is found in nearly all canned foods and causes excessive estrogen. Any canned products lined with these can aggravate the condition too. The addition of sodium carbonate makes it more stronger in reducing some small patches of redness and this is why it was added along with the baking soda.
5/26/2008: Deborah writes, "Thank you so much for responding. I will follow your suggestions, let you know how it worked out and leave a post on the website.
I don't know if the below site interests you or possibly could interest someone you may know, but I have found it very efficient and was amazed at the results after using many harsh abrasive cleaners, mild cleaners, and natural face cleaners to reduce my oily skin and dark pores, to date this is the only method that had worked. So I pass it on to everyone I know who I think may be interested.
Thank you so much again for your help,
5/26/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies, "Dear Deborah:
Thanks for the information I will pass this information to earthclinic. Castor oil is an often overlooked remedy by me, but is often important too. The reason why oil cleaning method against acne is the the major component, the castor oil is used to kill the acne. Hard rancid oils or hard oxidized oil can be dissolved to some extent with oils, a stronger oil, although I won't use is a trace mineral oil, which are known to dissolve waxy substance in small area that actually is more efficient. It can easily be proven that mineral oil will even dissolve wax candles, whenever you apply it. Other oils can experimented as to how they can do this.
The reason why castor oil is a powerful antibiotic is the trace ricin, available in extremely small amount to almost homeopathic levels that I used even for a diseased liver condition, where the liver is so inflammed it sticks out of the stomach. The castor oil is an important component in killing off the bacteria of the skin
The good point about these is it kills the bacteria and does kill the problematic pores, but it doesn't solve the cause. People never ask why these acne pores and skin pores exist in the first place, which is a biochemical imbalances of eating too much vegetable oils, gets rancid, becomes hard fats and they clogged the skin pores. Or the problem about lowered immune system that leads to the skin to easily form acne problems, such as lowered zinc can cause lowered immunity, eating too much sugar, drinking aspartame (formaldehyde & methanol) laced foods, sticky bloods from high heavy metals leading to clogged circulatory systems, or even the more common metabolic acidosis, which leads to skin inflammation. Interestingly a lot of sickness in the U.S., especially is that the omega 6 is way too much compared against omega 3, such as 20: 1, instead o the ideal 1:1 due to industrialized farming practice of raising chickens to grow too quickly, which leads to very high omega levels.
So something as simple as eating more fish or fish supplements, or traditional methods of growing chickens would help. Do quite often the skin is inflammed from low levels of omega 3 and acidosis, before things get worse.
So while the oil cleanse remedy uses 10-30% castor oil depending on oily or dry skin with more castor oil for oily skin mixed with sunflower oil, technically a superior oil is extra virgin olive oil because of its antiviral component found in the olive oil. Some people do have problems in sunflower oil use, but that doesn't happen often, but for more sensitive people I often use olive oil. In the long run, the most dietary oils are not that good, with exception of fish oils because the body have an upper limit as to how much it can take and then end up with eczema and other problems from long term use. Short term is always ok, but the liver can only processed so much oil, even if it is applied to the skin. It works the same way as why people can't take much vitamin A, as it is stored in the liver. Vegetable oils are the same, and gall bladder's limited emulsification ability has always been to supplement with granulated lecithin (a oil emulsifer) so that the gall bladder doesn't get inflammed from excessive fried foods and vegetable oil diets. Ted"
04/07/2008: SG from Taipei , Taiwan: "Hello, i send a message some days ago but nothing come out.So here again..I'm in my second week now of the remedy of Ted for Rosacea:I
apply borax and HP on my face everyday , twice a day. Also y drink a Lt. of water with 1/8 of borax 3 times a week. The firs week seems everything was going to be great, this week it look like Rosacea is coming back.I"m doing something wrong or it's normal? Why Rosacea is almost non existant in
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Samuel: Firstly a Rosacea can either be a demodectic mites, this is the one I encountered, and or i can be a form of mycoplasma or fungus like organism. The second one is harder to get rid of. In both cases it responds to borax and hydrogen peroxide remedy. Therefore, I had to revised my remedy to deal better the second condition, where usually the borax remedies require (the updated one) 1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon of borax, plus at least 30 drops of hydrogen peroxide 3% in one liter of drinking water. Alkalization is needed still, usually the simplest one, not necessarily the most effective, is 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water taken once in the morning and once in the evening. However, a more effective one I have found is the use of carbicarb remedy, which requires 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda and 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (washing soda, both are usually Arm & Hammer's brand). in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day. These are the minimum dose, usually for alkalizing that adds to the effectiveness of the remedy, but 10 drops of H2O2 to alkalizing remedy further adds to their effectiveness also. As to what is wrong with the remedy is that my guess (based on very few feedback) are that most people don't alkalize using baking soda, and they don't usually add hydrogen peroxide into the borax remedy, which is a newer remedy. The other issue is why rosacea came back on second week. This has sometimes do with detox effect, which happens on the 8th or 9th day, so ti goes down generally but more with some roller coaster effect in some cases. Unfortunately, Thailand is fairly healthy compared to the Western counterparts and most medicine here is conventional, alternative medicine is almost unknown, except for a few foreign expatriates from U.S., Australia, Canada, now and then that are popular only in that few group. As to the reason why Thais don't get rosacea, not only that but it is candida is almost unheard of here also, but morgellons, and other disease. Despite being bombarded with chemtrails of SARS, bird flu, many of these don't survive either. The only reason I can find is that the weather here is hot, and there's a lot of sun so they die before it enters the host, to become Morgellons, SARS, bird flu, or perhaps other interesting organism. The other explanation is Thai water supply is hardly chlorinated or fluoridated, the country is simply too poor to do these to kill people, and hence, people here are generally healthy. Certain dietary triggers I found, such as rosacea, might be white bread, vegetable oils (except coconut oil and olive oil as they have higher boiling point), heavy metals, aspartame (hidden in sugar free gums, diet Coke, Pepsi Max, Coke Zero, and others) are the major triggers, especially the aspartame since it cause the body to go in tail spin toward a long term metabolic acidosis, even if the person has stopped taking aspartame products. Interestingly fluoride and chlorination is a major trigger that cases other foods to be more much toxic' compound (trace humic acid found in human intestines for instance mixed with chlorine and fluoridated compounds can create very powerful cancer causing compound, but also becomes a allergy triggers and immunity weakness. The other thing is many people here are not vaccinated, so mycoplasma which may cause rosacea, simply can't get into their system. This of course doesn't make Thailand permanently immune to rosacea, as long was there is a pushed to the market to sell aspartame, milk (bovine growth hormone), chlorinated and fluoridated the water, as well as mandatory vaccination. Hence I believe it is all these toxins that is being introduced in Western countries that seemed to trigger rosacea. Also certain spices, such as curcumin, turmeric, and other spices, has a protective effect against rosacea. Since a Western tourist will hardly eat any native food or spices here, it is difficult for me to actually find the cure for rosacea through the use of spices. and other herbs. Yes the diet is a trigger. If the redness comes on the second week, one remote possible remedy is to avoid food triggers mentioned, take chlorella and spirulina, 500 mg once every two days, and people keep forgetting to alkalize or add the hydrogen peroxide into the borax remedy. I haven't found all the solution to cure different conditions of rosacea, since there is zero cases of rosacea for just Thai people, and I did have a few long time, which were mainly foreign tourist coming to Thailand, and that was it. So I live in a country with a solution to an almost non-existent condition, much like candida, fibromyalgia, lupus, and other that is somewhat widespread in other countries. I guess I am living in the wrong country. lol"
03/01/2012: Dita from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Hi Ted, I have rosacea and live in Bankok. I've only been in Bangkok for 5 months and my rosacea has been getting significantly worse. I found when I lived in London that when I stopped drinking caffeine this improved my skin so much that my rosacea was almost gone. Here for some reason I haven't been able to quit. You suggest quite a few remedies such as borax, hydrogen peroxide, bentonite clay and so on. Could you please advice me whether any of this is available in Bangkok and if so where? You also suggest toxic build up in the liver. Would it be worth seeing a Chinese doctor for this? and if so is there any one that you can recommend?
Many thanks, Dita"
Question About Saturated Borax
07/18/2007: Julie : "Hi Ted, I was reading your suggested treatment for rosacea. You say to use 1% hydrogen peroxide w/ saturated borax. I can buy 3% peroxide...do I just dilute with water to make a 1% solution? And how much borax do I add? Guess I don't understand the "saturated borax"! Thanks for your help."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "When you add borax, add them till they CANNOT DISSOLVE themselves. That is saturated borax. You add the borax to a 1% hydrogen peroxide until the borax cannot dissolve. In case you don't want to try to find out, it is usually 1 tablespoon per 500 cc of water."
Sensitivity to Lavender Treatment
06/07/2007: Katie from Bay City, Michigan: "Ted:I see you recommend lavender around the eyes for the H2O2/borax treatment. I keep hearing that lavender can agrivate rosacea as can clove, aloe and orange oil, which you suggest to respond to the dryness brought on by the treatment. What about seabuckthorn salve to moisturize, instead? Also, what is the maximum amount of time one should leave the treatment on? Does one do this every day for one month? Also, should all seven treatments be used simultaneously?"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Katie: Lavender oil should be use carefully and applied in thin amounts. Clove oil are used in tiny amounts for internal purposes but are not generally needed except for condition of weaknesses. Orange oil is taken internally too, but it can aggravate, but it does kills the bugs (nanoinsects) that causes them.
If you don't want any aggravation then just the lavender oil will do, but applied thinly. It certainly won't cure it, it will reduce the redness and does kill some of the bugs at the same time. If you are sensitive to them all then this can be ignored entirely, however in some cases it was needed because the redness problem was intolerable.
The thing I see that worked the best was the borax and the baking soda. Borax is taken maybe twice a week and 1/8 teaspoon - 1/4 teaspoon diluted in 1 liter of water drank in small dose throughout the day. I need not be taken for long periods of time. After 2-4 weeks most of the rosacea bugs should die off. However, it is the 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda taken twice a day that maintains the condition not to cause further breakout. At this dose usually the urine pH is fairly close to 7.
Salves may reduce some problem and can be applied to the skin especially certain UV blockers which tends to protect from aggravation caused by UV effect on the skin that tends to cause skin problems."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Susi: Usually the skin condition improves greatly after taking 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day on an empty stomach. This causes urinary pH to be close to 7 and reduces the skin problem.
In scientific circles they concluded that the red skin is due to an tiny insect issue (nanoinsects) that lives in capillaries causing them to be broken. The only known remedies for that is taking a small amount of borax, as it kills them from the inside out. The dose is usually between 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon mixed in at least 1/2 liter taken on an empty stomach taking in divided dose throughout the day.
This amounts to 250 cc taken twice a day. Those should initially be taken for a course of a couple of days, such as 3 days out of the week taken for about a month. To kill them I think it needs to be taken at least 3 days in a row first. The does is not a perfect one and you need some adjustments. When they do die, they sometimes come out as black spots, which can be cleaned by using alcohol swab and lavender oil mixed to reduce inflammation. Aloe vera gel may also give some healing effect.
Both the borax and baking soda of those are what I think is most important.
Additional remedies can be improved on that by mixing 1% hydrogen peroxide with saturated borax, and applied a small amount to the face, and no rinsing. To see if it doesn't harm the skin just apply in a small area as a test first, such as the arms, or neck before trying on a more sensitive area. The hydrogen peroxide and borax will be absorbed by the skin killing the nanoinsects and reduce the redness. It takes about a month to generally kill them all. However, certain lingering condition might exist in some people, but those were from drinking polluted water.
Therefore it is wise during treatment time to drink only good quality bottled mineral water and avoid tap water and other sources of water. They tend to compound the problem. Other dietary problems are sugar, cheese, pizza, white flour, fast foods tend to worsen the condition by causing the pH to be more acid.
Lavender oil applied to the skin can reduce the redness, but the redess tend to move around trying to avoid the lavender. Lavender oil is weakly insecticidal, as is tea tree oil, but lavender is also anti inflammatory.
In later stage, eating fresh chinese parsley a day, of any amount you can take, in soups will remove heavy metals, which tends to accumulate whenever rosacea is present and may further improve the conditions.
Much of the remedies I am telling here are from personal experiences I have tried to get rid of that I think has worked the best. There are other things, but I think it is best to concentrate on the basics first.
Finally, in later stage you can take some bee pollen, any amount your choice as bee pollen is high in rutin and helps repair the broken capillaries. Sodium ascorbate vitamin C 1000 mg/day is also helpful too."
Side Effects of Borax
02/12/2007: Maxine from London, England: "Dear Ted, i have read that Borax can produce ill side effects in humans. This concerns me greatly, as i would like to try the h202/borax treatment on my skin (scalp & face)as i suspect demodex mite infestation.This is a bit of the article, could you please advise?
"Drawbacks: The chemical borax is abrasive, and 20 Mule Team Borax may abrade your carpets. In addition, there are documented cases of long-term low-level exposure to sodium polyborate resulting in conjunctivitis, weight loss, vomiting, mild diarrhea, skin rash, convulsions and anemia and other similar allergic reactions in humans. If you're using borax as flea control, and your pets (or family) are showing loss of appetite, eye or skin problems, anemia or kidney problems, you may want to switch to another flea control method and see if their health improves. Do not apply it to damp carpets as it can take the color out."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Maxine:
"The chemical borax is abrasive, and 20 Mule Team Borax may abrade your carpets. "
A solution of borax totally dissolved in water is not. Putting too much borax on carpet is about the same as putting too much powdered detergent on the carpet. A small amount will not abrade. If it works so well, why do they still use sandpaper? I prefer to remove the carpets if there is mites infestation. If you don't want to remove it, then just put it on anyway. It is either abrade the carpet or you getting the mites' infestation.
"..resulting in conjunctivitis, weight loss, vomiting, mild diarrhea, skin rash, convulsions and anemia and other similar allergic reactions in humans."
What happens if you put a pinch of borax in a pacific ocean? The issue is using just the right amount. Boron is a necessary human nutrition. Israelis have one of the highest borax content in their drinking water, and yet have one of lowest arthritis rates, at less than 1% of the population.
Recently a woman died of just drinking no more than 5 liters of water. The warning applies to taking too much or accidental overdose. Most poisoning is due to a mistaken identity. Using borax instead of sugar when making candies, for example.
Borax is an antidote for fluoride poisoning. In fact fluoride is a lot more toxic than borax but yet we use this everyday as a toothpaste.
The toxic dose for Sodium fluoride, oral rat is 80 mg/kg, while borax is about 2000 mg/kg. On the other hand, a simple salt toxicity is about 2000 mg/kg. The toxicity for both borax and salt is about the same."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Carl: There are actually several ways to combat rosacea and I am continually improving upon the treatment first published on Earth Clinic. My latest formulation to cure rosacea will be described here. It is no longer just the borax. The protocol requires the following:
1. Baking soda first. Alkalize and get urinary pH between 6.5 to 7.3. Basically getting the target pH of 7.0 is best. This involves taking baking soda, starting at 1/2 teaspoon with 1/2 glass of water twice a day on an empty stomach, once in the morning and once in the evening. I have seen cases that rosacea to have gotten worse if the issue of pH is not considered first. Raise or reduce baking soda needed to get the targeted Ph of 7. If reaching this is a problem consider adding some vitamin C, lemon and ACV to the formula. This will raise it easier.
2. Take the vitamin D3. I have found rosacea gets worse during the winter months. The issue of both lupus, rosacea, lupic cells, and other similar diseases are linked to this issue too. While there may be many reasons why that does so, including cold weather, lack of sunshine, lowered immunity, etc. The one major reason that is hard to ignore is the body's vitamin D levels is below normal. The a reasonable quality of vitamin D is the vitamin D3, ideally between 10,000 i.u. to 20,000 i.u. is taken for about a month at least. But if those are not available an alternate form with lesser dose might be helpful too such as cod liver oil for example. Basically vitamin D3 (a better one is D4) is related to body's immune system. The reason why I narrowed down to vitamin D3 instead of warmer summer weathers is because I have done some hyperthermia experiments.' This had reduced some rosacea, but have not completely eliminated the issue. Summer has two things not available during winter months: vitamin D and nice hot weather. The hot weather issue is ruled out, but not the vitamin D3. The organism causing rosacea is often several one of them is the mycoplasma and fungus like bacteria causing the problem. This is why people reported that light therapy, such as intense pulsed light therapy to work. However this is an expensive way, vitamin D3 or UV exposure from the sunlight might be a better way. The easiest way is to allow sunshine in your bedroom, if possible.
3. Consider taking borax. Some people believed the demodex mites are responsible for rosacea. They may be right. But, there are others too that are not yet identified. I prefer to lump all these insect issues to just one category: nanoinsects. These insects have several weakness that you can kill them, or at least weaken them. One obvious ones is borax. The treatment can be broken down to two things;
1. Taken internally: Try 1/8 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon of borax in one liter of water/day. You just drink this water throughout the day. If it runs out then drink just normal water, with some magnesium added if possible. Magnesium is found in certain seeds such as sunflower. They seem to be synergistic with the vitamin D as vitamin D promotes calcium and the body needs to balance both magnesium and calcium to an ideal amount.
2. Used externally: Dog mange is confirmed demodex mites and the only treatment that effectively cured of dog mange is 1% hydrogen peroxide and borax saturated solution applied topically. Many people believe the demodex mites is the cause of rosacea. What I am sure about is it is an insect issue. The method of killing them is external application of 1% hydrogen peroxide with borax saturated solution to the face, unrinsed. It tends to cause drying. So you can apply appropriate lotions to prevent drying, such as jojoba oil, aloe vera or lavender oil.
4. I found you can also add plenty orange oils, and clove oils to the drinking water. Between 4-8 drops per glass of orange oil my help too. Orange oil is basically a broad insecticide, but a flavoring agent for human use. A good organic orange peel half of the orange can be eaten or put into a blender with other fruit juices may also help.
I will try to continue updating this rosacea treatment."
05/19/2008: Judi from Wilmington, Delaware, USA replies: "How long does it take for the dryness and peeling of skin on the face to clear up after taking the borax solution internally?"
03/04/2013: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "Ted, Would it work to rub your face with an organic orange wedge? Just curious! I used a shampoo that contained orange oil and they just migrated to my face."
11/26/2013: Jillery from North America replies: "It seems borax is the way to go from all my reading. I will start with the cleanse PH drink of baking soda for a few weeks and check back in to let you know how it goes. My rosacea is some break outs on my nose with redness, above my lip light redness and some breakout and mild/mod redness on my cheeks. I barely had pimples growing up so at 58 it is odd to have skin issues now."
12/07/2013: Om from Hope, Bc, Canada replies: "Jillery from North America - I have had Roseacea with two outbreaks only in the last ten years or so, each time due to extreme stress. I immediately bathed my face with colloidal silver only once, after which it disappeared, leaving my skin glowing, fine pored as before. When it appeared again, due to extreme stress, I perceived that it was caused mainly by mites.
I use MMS with great results by spraying and letting it dry. Afterwards, when dry, without washing it off, I apply moisturizer and my skin is none the worse. I have no more redness which only appears due to stress, but I noticed that exposure to the sun triggered it as well.
Now my face is clear but the mites have to be dealt with. Since MMS is beneficial for the eyes, I spray eyes, nose and ears. MMS also removes earmites in my pets. In addition I use Borax which enhances skin and hair nicely. Every time, after shower I let it all dry and use moisturizer after each treatment without washing it off. Dr. Bronner's Lavendar kastile liquid soap is very good for this , mixed in with Borax.
At night it is useful to keep the MMS spray handy for a quick treatment if necessary. I am now looking for Astragalus to improve my immune system. Perhaps because I am vegan my situation is not too serious as with other posters on EC. I wish you good luck and, yes, I can now face the sun again. By the way, I know when I got those buggers, it was by sleeping on someone else's pillow. They are not visible.
CREAMS HAVEN'T WORKED
11/10/2006: Janice from Adrian, Michigan: "Just wondering if anyone has a cure/remedy for rosacea?? Mine is awful and the doctors have given creams etc. that haven't worked. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Janice: The key to treatment of rosacea can be very easy or very difficult, depending on whether you know the cause or not. There might be many causes, but let us discuss the ones that I do have personal experience with rosacea, while I was living in U.S. 30 years ago.
It is my own personal observation that these rosacea moves around the face quite quickly when you are trying to use topical solutions to reduce inflammation, in particular the lavender oil.
The rosacea's favorite ground is the face, being rich with capillaries and blood vessels which facilitates its movement.
Diagnosis commonly make a mistake for lupus (SLE) but with a red cheeks, this is a diagnostic error. However for me the cause is always the same, usually this is not lupus and it is not a viral or bacterial problem.
The condition I found is a demodex mites found in large majority of people with this condition. The research has recently seem to support this observation.
There are two ways of treatment, the quick method, or my method, which of course, I am unlucky in the feedback regard since this condition is extremely rare where I live.
The quick and dirty method is to take plaquenil, an anti-malarial drug which are directly antagonistic to the toxins produced by the demodectic mites. Therefore inflammation and pharmacological effects is in many ways similar to wormwood or artemisia which you might use as a good substitute.
The other is the one that I have steady success, which actually was developed to treat my own crawing creepy things on my skin causing an inflammation, but it is best known in treatment of dog mange (after lots of trial and error of course) and seems to work every time. At the time I couldn't imagine the solution to be workable for mange, but it did work. The solution calls for using 1% Hydrogen peroxide with a saturated solution of borax. This is applied to the face and do not rinse. The key is these demodectic mites tend to move around so quickly and if you apply in the face, it will quickly run into the eyes, causing a severe redness of the eyes.
To stop this redness you need to apply lavender oil around the eyes very thinly, making sure it doesn't get into the eye before you proceed. This is why sometimes people with rosacea might have an eye problem, either the healthy eye or unhealthy eye, they attack the same way.
The next step is to apply the solution as mentioned in a small area to see if it works. The red spots, will run quickly to the other side of the face.
When this occurs, it is a confirmed demodectic mites being the cause. An nano-insect problem. Therefore if this works and you don't have a skin reaction to the said solution you need to apply to the whole face and the ears. They tend to get into the ears too and if they stay in the same place, it causes this liquid pus, causing a break in the skin. Assuming a worse case scenario.
To avoid this, you need alkalize your body to an alkaline state so that the pus will not form. For a rosacea problem, I imagine you need to take larger does of baking soda than usual, usually 1 teaspoon two to three times a day on an empty stomach in one glass of warm water.
Other ways to drain the liquid pus is to clear your body systems by diarrhea by taking 1 teaspoon of sea salt and 1 teaspoon of baking soda. This will cause the loose stool and the pus will lessen almost quickly draining it dry. Application of alcohol will cause drying, but when you clear your system you still need to apply the solution (h2o2 1% saturated borax),
Upon application you should not rinse, allow the solution to go through necessary to kill the nano-insects.
Of course there are other solutions that might effectively kill these bugs, but I have no way of trying the formula because rosacea is non-existent in Thailand.
The other possible formula appears to be a 20% camphor in orange oil, and apply thinly. Make sure you don't have a skin reaction to this, so apply a small area. These bugs find d-limonene a component of the orange oil to be deadly, while it is safe for human use.
In other instances, I do make recommendation of people with rosacea to eat orange peel. The orange peel are high in d-limonene and once they reach the bloodstream they tend to kill these demodectic mites too. Killing them completely is a bit difficult because it requires a skill, which you need to find out yourself.
Again this is my own observations of how to treat rosacea. Your case might be different, but you can try to see how effective this is. What I do know is this works very well. But to completely kill them or cure them, requires a bit of skill and patience.
Most important: if your eyes become red or it enters the area of eye, a lavender oil solution will cure it almost instantly. Lavender oil can solve the rosacea temporarily, but it won't kill it completely, you need to use an orange oil and camphor formula for that, but that remains untested and remains a question mark in my head since rosacea is almost non-existent in Thailand.
I hope this helps - not a perfect solution I am sure, but something to try"
11/21/2006: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Rosacea cures in a distant future may pick up, hopefully and a major remedy, believe it or not is the borax taken internally (1/4 teaspoon empty stomach). The safety level, if you check with Material Safety Data Sheet, LD 50, is as safe as sea salt and can be used as an antibiotic against insects for human and animal use. I am getting fairly good feedback on this area, but many people wish this to remain private (I guess it is a very embarrassing disorder). The cure takes a while -- about a month and a use of alkalizing lemon formula up to 4 times a day."
10/17/2009: Anna from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "I have had my face lasered at the dermatologist, which worked, but was too expensive for the long run. I have had creams which never really worked. On top of rosacea, also my hair falls out, so i bought the hair laser comb for this problem. As i did my hair, my chin was itching, so i also tried it on my chin, if it does not help it won't hurt i thought. It felt very good after. So now i do my face 3 times a week, and my skin looks really good. I still have a few dots on my chin and near my nose. But over all i think it looks amazing, i never thought my skin would ever look this good again.
My hair has not stopped falling out, but i am very happy about my face. I have not heard anyone else about it, i would like to though. When trying, shield your eyes with something solid, because laser is damaging to the eyes."
03/04/2013: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "For hair fallout I used a few drops of seabuckthorn oil in some jojoba oil. Massage it in and sleep with a thin plastic shower cap. Wash out the next day. Get a PH balanced shampoo (Amazon has one with orange products). Don't dry your hair. I stick rollers in my hair and let it dry for a couple of hours. Seems like it's getting healthier. There's also a great article about Matthew McConaughy's hair loss and he recommends a product. Good luck! I've tried almost everything. Next, I'm going to see if a beautician can do a henna treatment."
06/06/2013: Gerar from Neuquen, Neuquen Argentina replies: "Dear Ted: I was diagnosed with rosacea, and I wonder what exactly is the exact proportion of borax, water and Ph to be applied externally, and also whether it is best to apply at night."