http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/lichen_planus.rss http://www.earthclinic.com/template_img/logo.jpg http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/lichen_planus.rss The Earth Clinic library of remedies to Cure Lichen Planus. Mon, 13 Feb 12 02:33:44 -0600 en-us http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=VITE_73539 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss1 Sun, 12 Feb 12 09:35:51 -0600 [YEA] Dima Nesh from Amman, Jordan writes: "Vitamine E for Lichen Planus I'm going to make this short and simple. I've been dealing with stress for the past 5 years and that's when my symptoms started to show. In 2007 my first Lichen Planus breakout started to show on the inside of my wrists. I tried every medication and every cream there was. I was using vitamine E oil for my face at the time because I always read it was good for the skin so I decided to give it a try. I popped the capsule and spread the oil on the inside of my wrists and I cannot remember how they totally faded away. I've been using it for the past 2 weeks since my recent outbreak and I have noticed a dramatic change. No itching, no redness. The rash starts to fade away by becoming brownish color. I'm using one capsule a day every day. I do not guarantee it will work on every person because I think it depends on the severity of the outbreaks but you should definitely give it a try. I hope it works out for all of you looking for a cure. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=BARRIER_68017 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss2 Tue, 29 Nov 11 23:57:09 -0600 [YEA] Virginia from Rochester, Ny writes: "I have been itching for months now from Lichen Planus and tried many of your hints which all work for a short time. However I have discovered something that seems to work better. This hint came from a Nurse Practitioner in a Dermatology office. When using steroids ( I have cleobesterol which didn't seem to help much) apply the cream and then on top put a barrier! This can be something like a product with silicone or glycerine ( silicone glove, others) or just plain glycerine. This helps the steroid stay and do its work. I felt the itch much relieved after 2 days of doing this. Give it a try. Hope it helps. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=DC_66806 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss3 Sat, 12 Nov 11 09:10:37 -0600 Jennykk from Mansfield, Australia writes: "Hi, my experience with Lichen Planus, firstly an oral specialist prescribed cortisone, not to take it but to rinse out the mouth 3 times a day to reduce the inflamation and help repair the damage. However I am quite drug sensitive and couldnt do any more than three days. I was informed that Lichen Planus is an auto immune system disorder, and there is no cure. However I have been dealing with a naturopath in Qld, Mermaid beach, this wonderful lady does hair analysis, and has helped me enormously, she found I had a multitude of problems that stressed the immune system. But Lichan Planus lives off sugars and yeast, so the first thing is to give up both these things in the diet, and I did if for nearly a year, I make my own sourdough, that was easy. What was really hard was sugar, the sugar in tea and coffee was a breeze, but the alcohol was not, not that I am a drinker but I do enjoy an occassional beer or wine or whisky, they were to me like treats, not daily and never a hangover even but just something nice at the end of the week. And no chocolate, or desserts, no vegemite etc But the Lichan Planus was gone for some months, but sneaking a bit of sweet stuff from time to time, and now stressful times with business being busy and Christmas coming I have tender gums again, so back to hard core diet, it's shit full, but if anyone out there has any better input that would be helpful, that would good great. regards, JennyKK kitchbojen(at)optusnet.com.au " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=RN_66307 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss4 Tue, 01 Nov 11 22:25:48 -0500 Towergrl from Birmingham, Al, Usa writes: "Should I take selenium tabs to help with my lichen planus? Nothing from the doc is helping?? If anyone has tips, please share?? " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=RN_64484 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss5 Mon, 03 Oct 11 15:50:20 -0500 F from London, Uk writes: "Hi, My mother is suffering from lichen planus from last two years. Please send me the details of treatment she requires or any medicine we need to cure this disease. Kind regards, Fahad " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=RN_63773 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss6 Thu, 22 Sep 11 15:15:26 -0500 Flg82 from Norristown, Pa writes: "Any remedies to help with this? My friend is losing her hair and very overwhelmed by this.. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=PH_60005 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss7 Mon, 25 Jul 11 10:16:24 -0500 [YEA] Ben from Ny writes: "I think that lichens planus has alot to do with the acidity of the body. I have found that if I keep my (urine) pH up (~6.2 or higher), that the itch goes away and the bumps stop appearing. If the pH goes lower, the itch starts and the bumps start reappearing. I started noticing this because I would get something like water blisters in my mouth around meal time. If figured that my pH would be lower around meals. I also noticed that the blisters would pop easily if my pH was up, and would be harder to pop if the pH was low. I think that lichens planus might be a reaction to acidic sweat. I have used baking soda to raise my pH " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=LLB6_58640 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss8 Tue, 28 Jun 11 23:50:00 -0500 [YEA] Mspatpat from Dayton, Ohio writes: "I have had skin Lichen Planus for about 1-1yrs. I tried all the Dr's suggestion. But it always returned just as bad. Finally and herbalist for a health food store in Atlanta Georgia call (i think) the Garden of Eden, told me to take 2000-3000mg of L-Lysine & 50mg P5P (B6) 3x per day. And from the first 1000 mg that evening my itching & breakouts decrease about 99%!! I like the L-Lysine by Solaray that also contains vitamin C, Zinc and Vitamin B6. Hope this helps. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=RN_55520 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss9 Thu, 28 Apr 11 22:55:46 -0500 Hating Planus from Boston, Ma writes: "i was diagnosed with lichen planus about 14 years ago... At first only got it on the ankles and wrist... And was treated with steroid creams. Eleven years later... Got it again this time started on my elbow and moved down my arm... Eventually spreading all over my body! Had a biopsy done bcuz some of the sores were pus filled bubbles... Drs diagnosis was a lichen planus eruption caused by ibuprophen!!! Ive taken this medicine plenty of times before and this has never happened.... Its all over me dark samll spots and some massive clusters... Everywhere!!! I hate them.. Ive had all the topical steroid creams... The high doses of prednisone... Even the uv light treatments... Which ultimately burned me.... Now I have also been diagnosed with eczema ! Some spots on my face and neck... I always feel like I have bugs biting me! I want the spots to go away... Dr says the spots should go away on their own in a yr or two... Well its been 3 yrs going on 4 and its not budging!!! I hate my body... And hate the summer I dont even go swimming anymore. I want somthing natural to get rid of these scars... And I want desperately to know what is the cause of LICHEN PLANUS and why drs dont think it odd or damaging enuff to look into the reasons why and what the cure could be..... very uncomfortable with my skin. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=RN_52382 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss10 Sun, 13 Feb 11 22:10:48 -0600 Quinn from New York, Ny, United States writes: "Dear Ted Recently I read your reponse on curing Lichen Planus. I as well am a victim of this dreadful rash and have suffered with it, and other forms of Psoraisis for years now and currently have breakouts of Lichen Planus in several areas of my body. I did start your mentioned program, and am now using the lavender oil, which has been most helpful in slowing down the itch. I also have adapted the lemon and baking soda twice a day. I am confused as you mentioned that the lemon and baking soda should help destroy the lichen planus, as the alkkaline will balance ones own ph. This lead me to check my ph which is very high already in the alkaline... Higher then 7. 5. I am now questioning my need to take the lemon and baking soda and wonder if not that then what can I do to destroy the lichen planus or at best put it at bay for a while. Desperately looking forward to hearing from you. Quinn" http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=MR_50779 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss11 Sat, 08 Jan 11 21:56:09 -0600 David from Montreal, Quebec, Canada writes: "Since 5 month I have skin lichen plan, I tried, cortisone, prednisone, protopic, elidel, Tazorac, Topicort and Apo Hydroxyzine for itching, since I bought a neckless made of hazelnut dried wood, it slowly started to fade away. I am doing Soriatane 30mg a day since 1 month, it works. Success is skin well hydrated, soriatane and hazelnut wood." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=VCO_50673 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss12 Thu, 06 Jan 11 16:29:52 -0600 [YEA] Linda from Washington, D.c. writes: "Lichen planus is difficult, I've had it for 7 years now. Hate it. But recently I've been using pure virgin coconut oil on my skin have not had an out break yet and always have it in Dec. near christmas time and in July. I've been using it for about 3-4 months. If one appears it just dries up in a day or so, haven't had a huge break out to know what the reaction would be. My suggestion try extra virgin coconut oil." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=HP_49361 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss13 Sat, 04 Dec 10 14:15:16 -0600 Marilyn from Plattsmouth, Ne writes: "I have been reading your posts concerning your battle with Lichen Planus. At one point, I believe in November of 2008, you said you were taking 1000 mg of vitamin C and Apple Cider Vinegar. Then you said that you found the cause, which was some sort of mite. Am I to assume, then, that the Vitamin C and Vinegar helped for a while but didn't cure it? And did your treatment for mites then cure it for you? I have Lichen Planus both in my mouth and on my skin and am using a dexamethason solution which I rinse my mouth with twice a day for the oral Lichen Planus. This seems to help the condition, but if I quit using the solution, it comes back with a vengeance. The doctor wants to put me on some sort of steroid treatment for the skin LP but I am very leery of this because of the possible side effects, which include weight gain and osteoporosis. A friend sent me an email which talked about the benefits of using a 35% food grade peroxide for Lupis, which is also an autoimmune condition, so I am thinking of trying that. It is inexpensive and looks to be a beneficial way to treat Lichen Planus as well as other conditions. We have our own well water and my husband raised the question of whether or not there may be bacteria in our water that could be either causing or worsening my Lichen Planus. So I am now drinking only bottled water, which to my concern, I am reading now on the internet, may be too acidic for me. Woe is me! Maybe I am reading too much on the internet! Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, Marilyn " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=GF_46352 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss14 Thu, 16 Sep 10 23:28:58 -0500 Priyanka from Delhi, Delhi India writes: "Problem is only 3 months old, pls suggest some natural cure for face lesions and hair loss." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=MR_38603 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss15 Tue, 09 Feb 10 10:10:08 -0600 [BETTER BUT NOT CURED] Chrys from Chennai, Tamilnadu writes: "Lichen Planus Hi all, I did read all the posts.And i was surprised to see so many people are facing the same problems like one i am. But feel little better cause i have someone to share the feeling, pain and information of something overtaking our lives called "Lichen Planus"..Some months back i was so sick i could not help myself out of bed i had fever and severe cough by the time i found relief not cure..i lost my father due to heart attack. It was as though something was waiting for the push down the cliff and there i started getting aggravated symptoms of lichen planus...which i thought was bronchitis or sore throat. When i read your information i feel we are so helpless to understand our own bodies with which we live 24x7. Understanding of Lichen Planus in chinese culture is stagnant heat and stagnant blood.. Anything stagnant starts causing to decaying effect. Cleansing becomes highly essential..Similarly yoga says it is cleaning of wind that moves through your body..which needs to be done via the appropriate breathing excersie and some hand gestures.. Please read this link and look for this moo-draa (this is how it is pronounced "mudra" or hand gesture saying " Varun Mudra " read it carefully and understand the same..it is natural body mosituriser...it helps relieve the lack of moisturein oral lichen planus. Also check "Prithvi mudra" for mental relaxation which is a must in this growing anxiety of growing lichen planus.Please try to take Vitamin C dosage i am currently taking aamalika (indian gooseberry capsules 2x a day)and neem capsules 2x a day (leaves which are blood purifiers and relieve the itch effect to decent extent...not too promising, yet helpful as of now...do take vitamin C in the afternoon as late evening will cause disturbed sleep. I alternate bedtime routine with 1. Oil rinse ( i have infused olive oil with garlic and rinse just front portion of mouth with this 1 tsp oil) (do not follow this instructions if you have Olive oil or garlic allergies) and next day an tumeric poweder 1/2tsp in lukewarm water (if sores are bad reduce the water heat from lukewarm to little more manageable levels)and rinse in the front of the mouth and spit it out but do not wash your mouth, let the tumeric particles remain(do not follow this instructions if you have tumeric allergies)...try not to take it closer to throat...not harmful cause it is just spice but may leave unpleasant taste..but i sure did get quick relief from open sores and they are sealed all the time and do not oooze bloody taste in the mouth. Check this website for some yoga techniques to cool off your internal self as i mentioned earlier...body is captured heat that does not convert into energy and flow out..instead stagnant and causes ailments... http://www.yogsandesh.org/articles/33/1/Pranayama-Techniques-of-Swami-Ramdev/Page1.html 2nd Posture is one which unwinds and cools off the body...but read the instructions carefully and consult a yoga practitioner for good results...slowly take this situation under control...but wisely..in haste we may do more harm then good..We should not bombard ourselves with tons of medications.. Do read these techniques : http://www.naturalworldhealing.com/thefetalcure.htm Once you try them once a day chalkout the techniques that made you see the happy and soothing results (much needed now)...Put them in front of you or place you visit the most (for me it is the kitchen) paste it and write on the heading "If it is to be it is upto me" do check with your doctors everytime...period of 5days/10days/15days These are just over and above your regular medicines...hope this helps...atleast ithelps me to know we are helping stranger who bought us togather for a cause..treat this group as your study group...and work...we will see reults and hope for any future cases..I hope doctors read these case studies... " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=LCDV_37881 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss16 Sun, 24 Jan 10 13:06:13 -0600 [BETTER BUT NOT CURED] Kristi from Danforth, Maine writes: "I've had oral Lichen Planus for years now, some days are better than others.. I have notice that the summers are better and I agree with the Low carb diet. My exercising and eat are so much better in the summer than the winter. I also take B-complex which helps but doesn't clear it altogether. I do use a prescription mouthwash in the winter time that I get from my doctor. I am not sure of the ingredients. I am looking foreward to seeing some of the other peoples exact amounts of ingredients that they are using, like the vitamin k, vitamin d, borax, baking soda, salt solution, iodine ,Peroxide, grapfruit seed axtract. the numbers will really help. I also notice people with Lichen Planus also have other systoms of another type of fungus like nail fungus, ringworm, Maybe there is a simularity . Does anyone know what there blood type is? Mine is A positive. Very interesting study." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=GF_37262 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss17 Sun, 10 Jan 10 18:14:46 -0600 Rockforlifeguy from Ponca City, Oklahoma, Us writes: "Hi I am new to this site. I discovered it while looking for alternative medication for my grandmother's oral lichen planus. She is 70 years old and in considerable pain. I have spent a couple hours looking through information and see that there have been some successful treatments, but the problem I am having is finding exact measurements. Most the onformation I am finding is people's reviews of treatments they have found on the site, I am just not finding what they are. So if someone can compile a couple of the most successful treatments here I would greatly appreciate it. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=TTODCU_33648 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss18 Sun, 18 Oct 09 09:52:51 -0500 [YEA] Sativa Jones from Pahoa, Hawaii writes: "I was diagnosed two months ago with lichen planus. I have the rash on my ankles, inner wrists, underside of my tongue and inside the walls of my mouth. For the itch on my ankles and wrist I rub three things on the rash that immediately stop the itch. First I rub tea tree oil on it followed by olive oil (organic) and baking soda. This is not a cure for lichen planus only a treatment for the itch. Diet is key to controlling the intensity of the rash. Basically you have to eliminate all sugars (including honey and agave) dont eat any bread or white rice no processed food etc. you have to get super clean on your diet. I have since gone 90% raw which helps alot. I got rid of the bumps inside my mouth and the painful lesions on the underside of my tongue by gargling with my urine. I know this might be hard to believe but google "urine therapy" and you will see that urine has a long and ancient history of being used as a medicine." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=BSB_24710 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss19 Mon, 30 Mar 09 00:00:00 -0500 Rich from Boca Raton, Fl writes: "As this disease is "supposedly harmless", I have spent a considerable time trying various treatments to try and cure various symptoms with mixed but mostly positive results. I think Ted is a genious, and I am eternally grateful to him, for the knowledge that he has shared through this terrific forum. ***** Unfotunately, I feel I have too many posts in this topic, and so I lose some credibility; here is the real deal on my current opinion on this disease, and why I have had so much trouble curing it. I feel that this is a candida-related disease. I have seen so much yeast come from my mouth, that I can't perceive it being anything else. I have seen a white yeast and also a brown yeast. And I have coughed up some yeast as well (from my lungs)(both colors). In the last 10-years, with my smoking, 4x I have sneezed up blood(like a bloody nose, kind of). I always used to blame the smoking until 1-year ago(4th time), I coughed up a black bug(crab-like)... and I haven't had blood or congestion since, inspite of still smoking. I believe the bug was eating the yeast in my lungs. Swallowing Vinegar cured my blue warts(on my fingers)(gram-negative anerobic bacteria?). Swallowing 1/8th teaspoon borax cured my twitchy eye(Blepharitis); however, leve some dark lines where people usually get wrinkles.(is it Tinea, who knows?) Cured some age spots(Tinea) with Head & Shoulders Blue (Selenium Sulfide). Cured some un-itchy jock-itch/eczema with the H&S Blue. As Psoriasis and Eczema patients are almost always Selenium deficient, I have convinced myself that I am Selenium deficient. Had a Herxheimer-effect with Garlic (this stuff is awesome; has selenium), but wife and family complained I was stinky(on 5 super-garlic pills/day). Cured a brain-fog issue with a b-vitamin(thiamin-deficiency?). I think as a big beer-drinker, you are what you eat, and 30% of my calories came from a yeast product(beer), and so I got a yeast problem. Except for the two days of brain-fog, I can't really say I've felt very sick from 10-years of this disease. The last symptom I had... at 13, I had no Gin-allergy. At 21, I had hives on my neck from Gin. Last week, I had 1-bump from Gin on my neck... and none the next day. Juniper Oil kills candida(see Psoriasis topic). Perhap a yeast-infected thyroid-gland. *********** Been mouth-washing with a dime-full of shampoo, 4x per day. I have a red tongue for the first time in 10-years. Been using a toungue scraper and taking 500 micrograms of Selenium Selinite as well, though. I am confident that Selenium deficiency will cure me. However, I feel bad that I have so many posts already in this thread. I will not post again for 6 months unless I'm cured, but will post in 6 months in case I'm not (for Historical Purposes). I will reply to questions though. Today I felt like a million bucks. No smoking related congestion. I felt the best I've felt in 5-years. Doing all the bad stuff with no problems. However, I am not cured; so I have no right to give anybody advice yet. I have faith that Selenium deficiency is the root cause of this disease (Ted says MS is the same thing(White-Muscle Disease in animals)... I think he has this one right, and I was too slow to hear him. Impatience is frustrating though. For historical purposes of symptoms, I have 7 cherry angioma spots that have popped up in the last year (never had them before), and fordyce spots(oil glands on the lips). These have never been associated with lichen planus or candida... but when I googled cherry angioma, I saw an accound saying someone got these when they had a yeast problem; they cured the yeast problem, and these didn't go away; so I wanted to second the report." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=IODINE_21871 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss20 Fri, 30 Jan 09 00:00:00 -0600 [BETTER BUT NOT CURED] Rich from Boca Raton, Fl writes: "I'm 2 days into trying "Betadine/Providone" as a mouthwash for the "Oral Lichen Planus", aka Gum Disease of the cheeks and tongue. This is similar to the cure for white tongue in another topic, which uses Iodized Salt. The Salt may work eventually as well. I'm very encouraged by the preliminary results though. Iodine kills candida and many bacterias as well. The protocol here is 40 seconds, 3x per day for 10 days. It's used for drug resistant thrush in Aids patients... and may aid in Gum disease. The FDA approved perscription drug for Gum disease is Chlorhexadine, which as I said, kills ringworm as well, and is antifungal. If this iodine solution doesn't work perhaps I'll try that, but I have good preliminary indications that this will work. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=NUTRITION_21413 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss21 Tue, 20 Jan 09 00:00:00 -0600 [YEA] ELIZABETH from WOODLAND, CALIFORNIA, USA writes: "I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH LICHEN PLANUS IN 2008. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE IS NO CURE BUT WAS NOT SATISFIED WITH THAT. I WENT TO MY LOCAL NUTRITION STORE AND THE GENTLEMAN WAS SO HELPFUL. HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THIS CONDITION STARTS ON THE INSIDE SO THEREFORE MUST BE TREATED FROM THE INSIDE-OUT. I PERSONALLY DO NOT USE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ORGANIC OR NATURAL. BECAUSE THIS CONDITION MAY HAVE STARTED WITH MY LIVER, I REFUSE TO PUT ANYTHING ON MY BODY THAT MY LIVER MAY HAVE TO TRY AND RID ITSELF OF. I WILL NOT USE ANY KIND OF STEROID BECAUSE IT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK. MY SUGGESTION TO ANYONE WHO IS SUFFERING FROM THIS CONDITION WOULD BE TO CONTACT THEIR LOCAL NUTRITION STORE AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=MR_21301 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss22 Sat, 17 Jan 09 00:00:00 -0600 [BETTER BUT NOT CURED] ELIZABETH SCHMIDT from WOODLAND, CALIFORNIA , USA writes: "I was diagnosed with lichen planus in November 2008. I saw a dermatologist who was to say the least not helpful with information in regards to this condition and told me to "just live with it and be grateful that it's not worse" I have been working with an Herbalist and only using natural, organic products. I take daily: 3 Source of Life vitamins, 6 oral enzymes, 6 skin cleansers, 6 ignatia, and I shower daily with a liquid bath soap made with lavendar, olive, coconut, and palm oil. I also use an eczasalve for itching. Lichen planus starts from the inside and I have learned that in order to at least stabilize it, I have to treat it from the inside out. I had in my mouth when diagnosed and it has not gone. I would suggest to anyone who also suffer with this to learn about Natural and Organic healing products." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=BSB_20350 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss23 Mon, 29 Dec 08 00:00:00 -0600 Rich from Boca Raton, Fl writes: "I've changed protocols slightly. I believe I have this thing in full reversal. However, 6 months going down doesn't mean two days going back up. As I said, I am confident that I had a staph infection for 6 months that weakened my immune system, and brought on a candida problem. I cured the staph with mega c(sodium ascorbate)... now I'm dealing with the candida problem (which I believe fungus is the cause of lichen planus, candida or not). The wart like things that come and go, are probably freindly bacteria eating the fungus. No more fungus, and the warts disappear(and you have crappy looking finger-tips). With the fish oil, I can't say whether or not this produces friendly bacteria that kills the fungus. Perhaps it does. Perhaps this is just bad bacteria infecting fungally dammaged cells. Unclear. ******** I've been killing off fungus very quickly with Niacin and Garlic Pills(Selenium and Sulfur). Uninating several grams of Candida per day. What comes along with this is that if you kill your fungus, this "friendly bacteria" looks for a new place to attach to. This is called a "dye-off-effect" by the iodine guys. You get a stuffy nose, and feel like you have a cold. During this time period, you can increase your vitamin c(Sodium Ascorbate) substantially without getting diarrhea. I am at 30,000 mg today. Here is my new protocol: Selenium Sulfate Head and shoulders with 2 teaspoons of borax (for the dandruff). Colgate Total Toothpaste (triscolan plus Sodium Laurel Sulfate) Sodium Ascorbate (6,000 - 30,000 mg) Niacin (built up from 500mg to 1,500 mg) Garlic (built up from 5,000mg to 15,000 mg) Iodine drops (built up to 1,100 mcg per day) I mix the iodine and vitamin c with milk, take a niacin pill, and 2 garlic oil pills. If I feel a runny nose, then I skip the next dose, and put vitamin c in milk(4000 mg), or orange juice(2000 mg). Since I've added the garlic, I had a sore live for 1 day, followed by a sore kidney for 2 days, followed by garlicy breath(hit my lungs), followed by the worst gas in my life and diarrhea(intestines). With the mega-c, the die-off effect comes and goes, a couple hourse at a time (no big deal). ****** This new protocol is a modification of Linus Pauling's protocol for Multiple Sclerosis, plus Ted's. It has been postulated in the past that Candida overgrowth in the intestines could lead to MS. I don't know if that is true or not, but I've noticed substantial improvement in 2 weeks on it. Other problems: you might get a sore back. This could be from the liver, kidney, or the intestines. Make sure you drink lots of extra water. Additional Notes: don't go to fast, build up gradually at your own pace. The no-flush niacinamide and time-released, stay away from. You want the flush, that means you're actually killing something. Having a doctor actually monitor your blood and liver would probably be a good thing. If you go too fast, you can damage your liver. Warning on Borax, which I've recommended in the past: Too much borax can explode blood vessels. I cured my blepharitis with it... but I've also seen some blood vessels turn red. Perhaps Borax cures atherosclerosis, however, if you see and signs of red blood vesels, especially next to your eyes, or on your genitals, you better stop using the stuff until those heal. As I've said in the past, ted has chosen wise doses for a reason. There are some studies on Borax that say you can explode blood vessel in the genitals if you go to high on this stuff. What is too high is hard to tell, but if you see red blood vessels then stop. I've had success with both internal and external use of this substance, but caution should be used. ****** ps. Ted, your writing is brilliant. I needed alot of time to catch-up. Where should I send the check to? :)" http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=LCD_19088 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss24 Sat, 22 Nov 08 00:00:00 -0600 [YEA] Julie from Phoenix, AZ writes: "I've had oral lichen planus for 8-10 years and latley light outbreaks on wrist/ankle. With me, my oral lichen planus will often clear up completely, and always get milder, if I stick to a lower carb diet. While I'm not overweight I confess to preferring to eat lots of carbs typically from sweets. When I ease off, my condition always improves - often to miraculous degree. Today on internet I searched 'lichen planus diet' and found a similar post from a dentist stating a patient of his experiences same. I'm convinced there is a link between proper body funtioning (caused by better diet) and ease of auto immune probs like lichen planus. Likewise my other auto immune issue of painful joints also worsens with poor diet, and goes away when less carbs consumed. Other posts on earth clinic have suggested links to vitamins, acidity, etc for treatment/cure. I think perhaps when your body functions properly when you eat right, burning fat as it should, that your body heals itself of some odd ills. And conversely, when you eat poorly, your body's systems are adversely affected, sometimes presenting in various ways such as lichen planus for some of us. I'd love to know if others experience same. I hope this helps some others. I will try to stick to better diet. It's tough though. To remove my lichen planus completely I have to drastically reduce carbs, then I can have sugary desserts, pasta, etc. 2-3 times a week without recurrence of lichen planus. What's tough for me is falling off wagon and getting into bad cycle of too much sugar too often - if I don't break pattern my lichen planus remains and can worsen. But the good news for all is it CAN be done. I recall many times where I broken pattern, fixed my lichen planus, and ate well for MONTHS at a time without issue. The real trick is this: when you see even the smallest hint of lichen planus returning, you've been eating too many carbs and need to ease off." http://www.earthclinic.com/Redirect.php?pageLink=/CURES/lichen_planus.html&name=BSB_18615 /CURES/lichen_planus.rss25 Sun, 09 Nov 08 00:00:00 -0600 [BETTER BUT NOT CURED] Rich from Boca Raton, Fl, USA writes: "I'm 32, smoked 5-10 ciggarettes/day drank 5 beers/day for 15 years. At 25 I was diagnosed with Lichen Planus... Doctors gave me cortisone cream, didn't help. Found this site a few months ago, and have done some independant research since. Ted is awesome, by the way. This post is a little fast and loose, without sources. Basically, ENT Doctors commonly use Baking Soda, Vinnegar, and Borax added to other stuff, and categorize these as anti-infectives. It appears that DCA, which is currently being tested in Canada as an anti-cancer drug is a combination of Bleach, Vinnegar, and BakingSoda... which would seem to kill a bunch of infections. ***** Back to my problems. 3 months ago: I've got a white tongue, with bumps on the side of my mouth. I usually wake up congested, but it clears before 10am. Often I feel congested, and that makes me want another cigarrette. I played the watch the clock game, and cut my smoking to 1 ciggarettes/day (after 7 pm)(back up to 3). I cut my drinking to 1 day per week. I started running 2 miles per day. It didn't help with my problems, although I lost 20 pounds. I THINK that I have this thing figured out... I will post a follow-up in a few months, if I'm cured. ****** Studying Ted's "anti-infectives", first I tried going alkaline (borax and baking soda). This cleared my lungs, but made the bumps in my mouth worse. Now I've gone in reverse, with the Apple Cidar Vinnegar only, and the bumps in my mouth are disappearing. So here's my theory. There is a mayo-clinic study from a few years ago that says that most chronic sinus problems are caused by a fungus. As I had a yeast-like taste in my mouth, it was probably Candida. I went to the doc, and got some fluconazole, since the baking soda seemed to be clearing my lungs. Success on clearing my lungs... at least temporarily.... however, the bumbs in my mouth seemed to be getting worse. It appears that these bumps are a "secondary infection", probably bacterial or viral. Since one problem was cured, I switched to 2 TBSP or Apple Cider vinegar, 2x per day. I had an immediate outbreak of Lichen Planus on my fingers, which appears to be dissapearing completely after a week. Additionally, the bumps in my mouth are 50% reduced. There was a new study that came out last week that said men have cleaner hands than women, and are less likely to get skin infections, due to their hands are more acidic. This lichen planus stuff kind of looks like warts, with a dark(blue) center. Since I've been taking ACV... the center of this stuff is red, like it's healing. ****** So I think I had Candida with a secondary infection, and the secondary infection(Lichen Planus) is cured by ACV. I need some time to completely cure this stuff... but I think I did this in reverse. First start with the ACV to cure the secondary infection(Lichen Planus), then clear the yeast infection (Baking Soda or Borax or Flucon-azole). ****** On the white tongue... listerine doesn't help, biotene mouthwash doesn't help. Flouride toothpaste doesn't help. Brushing my tongue with either Baking Soda or Borax or Both and/or combining Hydrogen Peroxide, will turn my tongue completely red. It will turn white again within 2 days... I've got some kind of infection. This stuff seems to help, though. I've been very impressed with that 20-mule borax stuff, in spite of the fact that the white tongue comes back. Borax is not to be feared, just follow Ted's small dosage. His dosage is well reasoned."