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| QUESTIONS & ANSWERS | ||||
| MULTIPLE REMEDIES | ||||
| OIL PULLING | ||||
| OSGOOD SCHLATTER DISEASE | ||||
| REMEDIES NEEDED | ||||
| SILKWORM ENZYMES | ||||
| TRACE MINERALS | ||||
| TURMERIC | ||||
| VITAMIN C | ||||
| VITAMIN K AND CALCIUM | ||||
| WATER | ||||
| WEIGHT LOSS | ||||
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Cure Bad or Weak Knees
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MULTIPLE REMEDIES
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[NAY] 05/26/2009: Eveline from Canadian, living in Spain writes: "Is it possible to get too many minerals? I have been having ongoing pain in my knees for a long time now, almost 2 years. Some times it has been much worse and it often varies even within a day. I cannot crouch down at all anymore, have trouble getting up from the couch and have troubles going up and down stairs. I feel like an old lady. And I'm not!!
Nothing seems to be helping. I am Oil Pulling. I drink ACV, I drink turmeric tea, I take a TBS of aloe vera daily. I also drink a glass of water with himalyan salt dissolved in it. I use Magnesium oil every second day or so. I have used MMS, H2o2, have just completed my third liver cleanse (with no stones evident this time) have used jars of MSM cream. I don't drink coffee or alcohol, don't eat a lot of sugar, don't drink soda or eat processed foods. I have cut back on meat consumption lately. I have started recently using blackstrap molasses which is giving me another burst of minerals, I take it. Perhaps I am getting too many minerals, what with the himalyan salt, the aloe vera, the magnesum oil and the molasses? Any ideas?
I also suffer from a heel spur. If the heel is not hurting badly then the knees seem worse. If the knees are not bad then the heel is bad. The heel spur is more recent however. The knees, as I say, have been a problem now quite some time. I am at my wits end living with this constant pain. I cannot exercise like I need to and realize I could stand to lose some weight.
I really appreciate this website. It is so interesting and gets to be quite addictive. I have looked at everything I can about joint pain and heel spurs etc. Have tried the ice water, ACV wraps, etc. etc. I am so envious when I read about people who got rid of their pain almost instantly!! I have yet to pinpoint the perfect thing for me. I refuse to believe this is the way it has to be. I've been working with EFT but to no avail as well.
Thanks for any tips or suggestions.
Eveline"
05/28/2009: Alain from Ottawa, Canada replies: "Answer to Eveline from Canada, living in Spain about knee pain
I have Various ideas for knee problems.
Did you or Can you check spine and hip alignments with a chiropractor? Sometimes misalignment can cause terrible pressures on knees.
Also I would encourage you to check pH of urine and saliva. I would say, especially the urine's pH in case of uric acid accumulation. If the pH is on the acidic side, which is IMO most likely, an alkalizing diet will benefit greatly. But for pH testing, pH paper is an almost necessary monitoring tool.
Vitamin C (the buffered one like calcium ascorbate, this kind is not acid forming), Omega 3 from Cold Water Fish oil. Better yet, cold water small fishes like sardines and salmons (with bones). With these fishes you well get omega oil and bio-available calcium.
You use Magnesium oil, but there is something much cheaper that you can use. Epson Salt (Magnesium sulphate) is very cheap. Either externally, Epson salt baths/foot baths/compresses (see http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/health_usage_tips.htm ), or internally, a small pinch of ES with glass of water. In such small amount, you will not have the flushing effect. Epson salt contains sulphur, as MSM does. So the Epson salt provides both sulphur and magnesium.
Cayenne pepper for blood circulation.
There is a hand held device you can buy from internet that produce ultrasound vibrations which help blood circulation.
You may stop liver flush for a while as it is making your system acidic. Anything that detox makes someone acidic.
External use:arnika gel or tincture. H2O2 3% rubbing. Peppermint oil rubbing.
See http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/sprains.html
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/knees.html
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/arthritis.html
pH balance helped me quite a bit with my knee problems.
Good luck."
06/05/2009: Eveline from Canadian living in Spain replies: "To Alain who kindly replied to my queries: Thanks for that info about acid alkaline balance. Makes sense to me. It took a bit of doing but I finally found some pH paper here in small town Spain. I consistently measure in around 6 pH. I've started drinking lemon juice with cayenne every morning and am watching that I eat more akalinizing foods, altho right now that's proving difficult because I'm traveling and it's harder to stay away from bread and some of the other acid forming foods on the road. I had been eating lots of small fishes here in Spain, using calcium ascorbate and yes, I had a series of chiropractic adjustments back home in Canada before I left for Spain. As I said, this has been ongoing for a while now.
You're suggestion about taking the epson salts internally sent a shiver up my back as that's the most loathsome part of the liver flushes, drinking that darned epsom salt. However, it's different just putting a pinch in water for sure, but ugh! Since I have the magnesium oil I will continue with it until I run out. I have used the H2O2 externally to no avail but will keep working towards a 7 on the pH scale. I just want to GET BETTER! As of yet, no changes."
06/07/2009: Kelly from Toledo, Ohio replies: "I READ A POST A LITTLE WHILE AGO HERE THAT SUGGESTED SPRAYING H2O2 DIRECTLY ON THE JOINT, SEVERAL TIMES A DAY WOULD HELP HEAL AND CONSEQUENTLY RELEIVE SOMEONE OF PAIN. HONESTLY, IT SOUNDED KOOKY, BUT I THUOGHT " WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOOSE IT CAN'T HURT". THE PAIN RELIEF WASN'T IMMEDIATE BUT WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS IT WAS LESS AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS I WASN'T USING THE KNEE WRAP AS MUCH AND NOW I HARDLY EVER USE IT. NOW MIND YOU I AM VERY OVERWEIGHTAND THE INJURY WAS SEVERE( I TWISTED A KNEE JOINT BADLY THAT ALREADY HAD ARTHRITIS IN IT ). I USE A 20/1 MIX- 20OZ WATER(DISTILLED) TO 1 OZ 3% H202(CVS PHARMACY) MY SKIN DRIES OUT WITH TOO MUCH PEROXIDE BUT YOURS MAY NOT SO YOU COULD UP IT A LITTLE. IT REALLY WORKS!"
05/01/2011: Catherine from Wellington, New Zealand replies: "with such low PH maybe you should check for celiacs or gluten sensitivity (not quite the same thing) Maybe even another food intolerance or allergy."
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OIL PULLING
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[YEA] 08/16/2007: Maya from Singapore, Singapore writes: "Hi. I only discovered about oil pulling while browsing the web on information on how to cure me of my skin disorder (keratosis pillaris). I read a posting done by this lady who SWEARS by oil pulling and its remarkable effects! I tried it just yesterday and was shocked at how fast results can be observed! I'm suffering from a knee injury due to my active lifestyle and since i'm not exactly young, i don't recover too easily. I've been having a bad knee for weeks now. But when i did my first oil pulling yesterday, i got IMMEDIATE results! My knee felt so light and i was able to do squats with no problems! I'm really a sceptic so i was finding ways to credit the improved knee flexibility to other 'health practices' of mine. But when my mom tried it later that night (she sufferes from acute arthritis), she too said that her joints felt remarkably better! i did it again this morning and later today, my heart was racing. Also, i feel a bit of discomfort in my private region. I don't know if it could be because i had an infection before and it was probably in the process of healing...i'll continue the OP and see what happens! I'm a convert!"
Replies01/11/2011: Desiree from Ny replies: "I started having knee problems once while taking an antibiotic called Levaquin. It is a member of the fluroquinolone family of antibiotics- Cipro is another. I was prescribed heavy doses on a regular basis for recurring UTI's and bladder infections. A couple of years ago, while taking the medications, I noticed a severe weakness is my knees. I felt like they were just going to snap. I had trouble getting around and was in a lot of pain. I got on line and did some research and it didn't take long to find out that the FDA issued a black box warning a couple of years ago for these types of antibiotics because they have shown to cause spontoaneous rupture of the tendons, in the achiles, the knees, the shoulders and hands.I immediately stopped taking the drugs and started oil pulling because from my understanding, fluroquinolones have a certain type of fluoride that can be particularly toxic and oil pulling may be helpful in reducing the levels of fluoride in the body. I did notice marked improvement after a few days, though my knees have never been the same. I did not have any knee problems before, was not doing anything strenuous-- the only variable was the Levaquin. Now I still have cracking in my knees that can be painful at times. In addition to the oil pulling, I have also begun moderate strength training to build up the muscles around the knee and this helps very much. I try not to cross my legs as much too as this seems to put pressure on my knees. "
01/11/2011: Con from Jacksonville, Il, Usa replies: "One year ago I had problems with my knees (bending and stooping they felt like they were going to give out on me). I started taking turmeric and now I can bend and stoop with no problems. I take turmeric capsules, usually once a day, and also mix a little (1/4 teaspoon or so) in tomato juice. Still trying to find more ways to work it into my diet."
01/11/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Turmeric is a great anti-inflamitory! I love it stirred into tomato juice along with some black pepper, or in my one cup of morning coffee along with a tablespoon of VCO (Virgin Coconut Oil). I use about 1/2 tsp (or a bit less) 2x a day now. When I first started taking it I went overboard, and had some stomach issues, so I stopped for a while. I started in taking it again, but at a much reduced amount and built up to the amount I take now s-l-o-w-l-y.I also have found taking Boron (capsules) has made my joint pain go away. Google "Boron and Arthritis" and see what comes up - it is awesome and inexpensive. :-) You also need to take D-3 at at least 2,000 a day and a good Magnesium along with as they interact with each other to help bones. Apparently from what I have been reading, Boron is every bit as important for building strong bones as Calcium is. (along with a LOT of other functions, hence my suggestion to Google it! )
One more thing that is excellent for inflamation (and avoiding getting sick) is Vitamin C. When all of those around me have the dreaded CRUD - I start taking 1,000mg Of Vitamin C at least 4x a day... And have not caught anything from anyone in a long time. Research Linus Pauling and Vitamin C - some very interesting reading!
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01/18/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Con, I mix turmeric in a lot of dishes and soups and I don't even notice it. I often also mix minced garlic just before serving and nowadays a bit of raw olive oil as well."
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OSGOOD SCHLATTER DISEASE
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[QUESTION] 03/25/2010: R from Littleton, Co writes: "I am looking for any help and or suggestions for Osgood-Schlatter Disease. I have an adult in my family that still suffers from knee pain related to this disease. Thanks in advance for any help."
Replies03/26/2010: Deirdre from Atlanta, Ga, Usa replies: "Hi R. After years of many hours a day of gymnastics training from the time I was 5, I finally got a terrible (AWFUL) case of Osgood-Schlatter Disease (serious swelling below the knee cap) on my left side when I was 11 years old. It was so bad, it abruptly ended my gymnastics passion. It was extraordinarily painful at the time and took a good year or two to heal. The lump is still there though I rarely feel any lingering pain unless I accidentally "bump the lump". For me the key to my OSD and other knee issues (meniscus injury, arthritic joints) is daily exercise, thus keeping circulation running through the entire area. Hanging upside down on my inversion board also helps increase circulation in my legs when needed.
I also apply magnesium oil to my knees when they are feeling painful and take omega 3 fish oil and primrose oil almost daily. Omega 3s are supposed to be taken with primrose oil or they will increase inflammation, according to an osteopathic doctor I talked to. Both of these supplements help tremendously. I haven't tried them yet, but a few folks on EC talk about apple cider vinegar or castor oil wraps for knee issues. Please let us know what you find out!"
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REMEDIES NEEDED
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06/01/2011: Visht from Bellevue, Wa, Usa writes: "Hi All, Need your help, I am looking for remedies which can be used for my knee pain. I did go an took x-rays for arthritis (no arthritis) but still I have knee pain, hurts while walking and need to be careful for sudden sharp pain, which might be there any certain time. I have take glucosamine chondroitin. I have tried all the joint medicines out there and from past 2 months I am taking hyaluronic acid from natural sources. Suddenly from past 2 days the pain has increased. I have doc appt setup soon. The knee pain is still there. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated."
Replies[YEA] 06/03/2011: Alexandra from Cheshire, England replies: "I have an intolerance to milk. Severe knee pain is one of the first symptoms I get if I consume anything containing milk. The pain comes a couple of hours after consuming the milk product, and usually takes 1-2 days to get it out of my system. You could perhaps try going milk free for a week to see if there is any improvement. This would require reading the lists of ingredients on packaged food because it is added to many of these foods. It could be labelled milk, lactose, whey, casein, etc.Incidentally, a few weeks ago, a friend asked me if I had ever tried 'raw milk'. I have since tried it three times, and I am delighted that I have had no bad reaction to it.
It could be worth keeping a food diary to help identify any possible food triggers."
01/10/2012: Ken from Henderson, Nevada replies: "Read gelatin powder for knee pain. Get xrays of knees to look for missing cartilige. Knox gelatin will repair and replace cartilage. Read gelatin powder for knee pain."
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09/05/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, United States of America writes: "I sent in a question for help about bowed-legs. It has been weeks and I have not seen my question posted anywhere. I am 57 and have been bow-legged all of my life. I cannot afford to have surgery to correct them as it is very expensive. It has affected my height, the way I walk, my knees and ankles very negatively. Does anyone have any solutions to my problem? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thank-you"
Replies05/26/2011: Catherine from Wellington, New Zealand replies: "Reply to Tahiti's query about bow-legs, although it has been some time since you asked. There is a therapy called the Egoscue method which works on realigning the bone structure. Check out the internet for a therapist in your area. An evaluation would let you know if any help is possible. Best of luck."
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07/20/2009: Geletyn Samosa from GoldenRock, Tiruchy, Tamilnadu, South India writes: "Sorry I have not used any as yet. Its for my 83 year old dad who complained of knee pain for the last 2 months. He climbed a stool and heard a click. Stubborn man work up early for mass the next day and fell down 3 stairs. Now he has pain and cannot move well. Ive given him paracetamol and a knee guard. Your remedy sounds GREAT. but I am in South India. Can you give me a substitute for ACV and CP? I do have some grapewine thats gone sour like vinegar can I use that. Should i soak a crepe bandage the wrap the knee with it or forment. Cannot give him to drink it coz he's got ulcers and has stopped drinking for 2 years now. PLEASE HELP URGENTLY AS I NEED TO TAKE HIM TO THE DOCTORS TOMORROW.....HE HATES THE HOSPITAL.
I too will try the remedy for my back problem after an accident. My cocycx is slightly binding on a nerve and gives my excruciating pain in my right leg. My ankles are old sports injuries."
EC: Not sure what you mean by CP - castor oil pack?
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SILKWORM ENZYMES
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[YEA] 01/21/2007: Don from London, England writes: "I tried serrapeptase 200mg. took it as suggested first bottle(90 tabs) 3x3/day, then 3x1/day , this cured the pains in my knees and legs. It's made from enzymes originating from the silk worm. also cleared my cholesterol."
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TRACE MINERALS
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[YEA] 08/04/2007: Tami from Chattanooga, TN writes: "My right knee was injured playing softball. A very smart alternative health practitioner told me that all illness, ie staph, strep and any virus, etc goes to the injury area. She said if you want any injury area to heal, you need to give it added nutrition and support. Since I had some liquid Trace Minerals at home, I put a quarter size amount on my palm and rubbed it onto my knee. After doing this for two weeks my right knee felt stronger than my good left knee. Later playing racquetball, I injured my left knee - and the Trace Minerals came thru again! I now apply liquid Trace Minerals directly externally over my heart, liver, kidneys, pancreas and colon. Plus my knees! This is incredible!"
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TURMERIC
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[YEA] 09/03/2008: Sonja from Swanley, UK writes: "I had knee pain for years. My knees were so swollen I could not even see them. The doctor prescribed NSAIDS, but I am not sure how much difference it made. I bought various things for arthritis, but nothing really helped. It did no harm. Then I started to read up on it, and most things i took contained Ginger, tumeric and others. I started taking Tumeric on its own 3 capsules a day and within 7 days my knees were almost pain free!!! i would recommend tumeric to anyone.."
Replies[NAY] 04/26/2010: Elyn from Oklahoma City, Ok, Usa replies: "I bought some turmeric pills from Walmart and used the whole bottle. No relief for this girl. I was so hoping it would do the trick for my joints and knees. Had my husband on it also until I reread the bottle and it would have interfered with one of his meds. Oh well-- it was worth the try."
04/14/2011: Pam from Tallahassee, Fl replies: "You need to take the turmeric for about a month before you see any improvement. It took me 3 months to get all the effects of the herb. I would suggest it to everyone it is so better than taking drugs that the doctors want you to take. Do research on the internet there are more herbs out there that can help with whatever you may have. ACV is also another one I take 2 times daily. "
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[YEA] 09/17/2007: cathy from richland, washington writes: "I have had terrible pain in my knees for' the last 2 years and have had to give up most activity. Just paid for more' xrays from MD and got same response.. its arthritis degenerative.. take lots of ibuprofen every day and reduce exercise.. like I could reduce from nothing! I ahve been taking turmeric and fish oil/flax oil combination oil for 4 days and I worked a 14 hour shift all on my feet and my knees don't hurt!!!!!!!"
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[YEA] Reem from Karachi, Pakistan writes: "I have used turmeric as a joint pain remedy and it has always worked for me. I usually take 1 tsp in hot milk and it relieves all forms of body pains, joint pains."
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[YEA] Bill from Califon, NJ writes: "I have had severe knee and lower leg pain for over one year. All the doctors say my knees have normal wear and tear but they always hurt and especially at night. I took 1600 mg of turmeric (800 x2 day) and after about six weeks the pain almost all gone and flexibility is returning."
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VITAMIN C
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[YEA] 12/06/2006: Barbara from Portland, OR writes: "I started taking high doses of Vitamin C to help ward off a cold virus. For the past several weeks I took 5-10 grams of Vitamin C. I noticed my knee pain disappeared. I am a runner/cross country skier who has virtually stopped these activities due to pain in my right knee. For 7 years I have tried glucosamine, calcium, MSM, and NSAIDs. I don't like taking NSAIDS. However, the other remedies did not relieve the pain and inflammation. Therefore, I have been tolerating the pain and have discontinued using NSAIDS. I was very surprised to find that the Vitamin C use correlated with complete pain relief and reduction of inflammation. So I stopped the C for a week and the pain returned. I have resumed the C and the pain is gone again."
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VITAMIN K AND CALCIUM
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[YEA] 12/31/2007: james from logandale, nv writes: "I am a runner and was restricted due to pain in my knees. Calcium and glucosimine suppliments were not effective, until I learned that Vitamin K is crucial for calcium absorption. In Japan Vitamin K is prescribed for osteoporosis. I am now able to run without pain. I take about 5 times the RDA daily of vitamin K with my calcium."
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WATER
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[YEA] 06/03/2007: Renee from El Dorado, Kansas writes: "I've suffered from a bad knee most of my life. If it isn't bone on bone, it sure feels like it. While nothing really helps, when I do not drink plenty of water, the pain and swelling get real bad when I stand or walk for any duration. Have been taking ACV/bs for 2 weeks now and so far no relief. But it is working on my Blood Pressure so I'll keep taking that. I just need a new knee."
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WEIGHT LOSS
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[YEA] Susan from Tampa, FL writes: "I started to have knee issues after gaining about 10 lbs. I had been about the same weight my whole life until I turned 34. Then, after being on anti-anxiety medication for a year, I started to put on the pounds! I figured out the extra weight was putting pressure on my meniscus when I worked out and spent the next few months losing the weight. Oh yes, I went off the medication too! I also massaged my thigh muscles (front and back) daily as I learned from my doctor that too much muscle tension causes stress on the knee as well. Long story short -- I went back to my original weight and haven't had any knee problems since then."
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