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Dissolve Kidney Stones
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APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, HONEY
09/24/2010: Judi7315 from Nashville, Tn writes: "My son has had kidney stones by the multitudes for about 4 months, the dr's keep giving him pain killers and sending him home to pass another stone, he has been in constant pain and because he has no insurance and the pain is so bad we turned to the internet. We also talked to someone who suggested Apple Cider Vinegar at 1 oz and 1 oz of natural honey (not processed) the honey contains natural antibiotics to help with infection. We are doing this process 1 time in the morning and 1 time in the evening before bedtime. We have done this 3 days now and so far he has had not pain. Keeping our fingers crossed that the stones are getting smaller or dissolving."
Replies09/25/2010: Thenewguyintown from Westwood, New Jersey, Usa replies: "It would be wise for you to search for "Teds" cure which works for both Gall Stones & Kidney Stones. Many have had great success with this formula."
10/19/2010: Chikie from Bonita Springs, Florida replies: "Thank you for the Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey. How is your son doing with the kidney stones? After praying the Lord lead me to this site. I have been having excruciating pain in my kidneys and gallbladder. Don't what it is. I had done the liver flush in shown in this site and lot of stones went out of my gallbladder. I keep getting pain on my right side tremendous pain on my right hip and sciatical nerves. I'm taking the ACV and Honey. I know God uses natural remedies to heal our natural bodies."
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APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, LEMON JUICE
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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 03/13/2011: Greg from Salt Lake City, Utah writes: "Like most of those suffering from those horrible and intensely painful kidney stones I will try almost anything to be rid of them. I have suffered now with kidney stones since 2006 when I passed my first one. I have been to four different Urologists and I have seen the Emergency room so much that now I have my own reserved room and medical bills to match.
I have passed well over 100 kidney stones since my first stone in 2006. I have had three surgeries, meds, pain pills to fill a truck bed, scans, stints, x-rays, cat-scans, you name it and I have been there done that...
I even stopped drinking milk for two years thinking that would help, which it did but then my body just switched from producing Calcium stones to producing Uric Acid stones instead from drinking so much Orange juice. So, now I am only drinking distilled water which is water in its purest form.
I have been told that minerals in tap water or filtered water can cause stones. That drinking soda can cause stones and that eating chips and other salty foods can cause stones and of course dairy products can cause stones but I had no idea that drinking a lot of Orange juice can cause Acid stones.
I have also used Uriflow which did work on some stones and also Renavive which is supposed to be twice as strong as Uriflow according to their advertisement.
Both worked for awhile then for me they stopped being as effective for some reason? Perhaps my body started to get used to taking them so for me they are no longer as effective. No matter the reason the stones continue so now I have found this site.
I am a big guy well over six feet actually closer to seven feet tall and large framed as well. So, I doubled the mix because of my size.
After reading about how taking Lemon Juice with Olive Oil seemed to help so many I decided that might just be helpful. And also, after reading that Apple Cider Vinegar is stronger than Lemon juice I decided to substitute the Apple Cider Vinegar instead of the Lemon Juice.
I have just taken 4oz of Apple Cider Vinegar and 4oz of Olive Oil mixed with about three tablespoons of honey and some Maple pancake syrup mixed in as well to sweeten the mix.
It burned all the way down with a strong acid taste but sweetened by the Honey and Maple Syrup so it went down better than I had thought. After taking the mix I had trouble breathing a little from the strong fumes from the Apple Cider Vinegar, I took some deep breaths and then chased it all down with 16oz of filtered water. I have noticed an improvement already in the pain level of my current Kidney Stone. The sharp pain is now almost gone!!!
Thanks to everyone for your kindness and suggestions, I will see how this works and leave feedback."
03/13/2011: Wyogal from Powell, Wy replies: "Good luck! I am also trying the raw apple cide vinegar and lemon and olive oil for stones in both kidneys. But I'm not doing cups of it at a time. 2 oz 3 times a day starting today. I'll update in a week."
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05/12/2009: Thomas from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma writes: "APPLE CIDER VINEGAR and LEMON JUICE
I found myself on the site wanting help for kidney stones. I ended up in the ER 10 days ago with lower back pains, throwing up etc. The pain lasted for about 4 hours before making myself go the ER.
Upon seeing a Dr and having a cat scan it was found that I had a 2 mm Kidney Stone. Stayed in the ER several hours with the DR giving me Morphine, Demerol etc..
Since leaving the ER the pain has not been as bad but have been having on and off pains in the lower back. Like with most people I was given a strainer to catch the stone.
So, not wanting to go threw the above pain again I decided to try some home remedies.
After reading post on this site about how some people had results in a matter of mins or hours I decided to try it.
Approximately 3 hours ago I took 2 ounces of Apple Cider Vinegar and 2 ounces of Lemon Juice.
I must say it was the nastiest stuff I have ever tasted in my life. It took me approx one hour of fighting with myself not to throw up. "Would recommend keeping some type of mint candy around to get the taste out of your mouth.
No change with anything as of yet. I will update as time goes on and let everyone have a true insight into my results with this home remedy"
05/19/2009: Scott from San Pedro, California replies: "So how did things turn out? Did it work?"
[NAY] 06/01/2009: Thomas from Oklahoma City, OK replies: "OK, update on my first post. I still have not passed my stone. I went a couple of week with zero pain. This weekend it started up again. Just praying it will pass soon. I did talk with a Doctor about APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, LEMON JUICE. I was advised by the MD that there are numerous types of kidney stones and that APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, LEMON JUICE does one on one of the types of kidney stones. However, the bad news is the one type it does work on is the rarest type of kidney stones and very very very few people have that type. So, for me it does not work."
10/25/2009: Joanystar from Studio City, Ca replies: "You don't drink lemon juice mixed with vinegar. You drink olive oil mixed with lemon juice. Or, drink Apple cider vinegar with a glass of warm water. Read the posts of the people who did this with success. You may get it to work."
02/11/2010: Martha from Mattapoisett, Ma replies: "I have to tell everyone, especially the guy who went out and got heinz apple cider vinegar, You have to get organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar, I got it at the regular super market! It has the MOTHER in it! It is a cloudy bit in the bottle! You can mix it with honey if you like. First of all the taste difference is astounding! I use 2 teaspoons of each and my pain from rhematoid arthritis is soooo much better, but I also was having bad gall bladder pain. I am going to try and get my husband to try it for kidney stones! Organic Apple cider vinegar ROCKS!"
01/29/2011: Loretta from Luton, Walthamstowe, Uk replies: "To quote, "However, the bad news is the one type it does work on is the rarest type of kidney stones and very very very few people have that type. So, for me it does not work."
Oh really Thomas of Oklahoma? Nice try. This treatment works on the most common type of kidney stone which is a Calcium Oxalate stone. Either you are lying or your doctor is lying or you are the doctor.
If Lemon Juice or ACV worked for you then why are you people even going back to your doctors? YoOu should be going to your local dounty court with a lawyer and file a Complaint against your Urologist for witholding information that would have prevented a great deal of pain, money and hardship via surgery and meds and stents. SUE YOUR UROLOGIST!"
01/30/2011: Robert Henry from Ten Mile, Tn Usa replies: "HI U LORETTA, never had a kidney stone in my life , but I clean out my liver and gallbladder every year with a flush. Worked at a plant that no one went to the doctor for kidney stones. The procedure is similar to what we do except they drink apple juice full time for a week and then start drinking a mixture of lemon juice and olive oil. The apple juice will soften the stones and the lemon juice and olive oil will allow you to pass the stones. I want to cry every time I think what the medical field is doing to us. Dang, we would be better off with an Indian Medicine Man. If you find that reference offensive to you then kiss My grits. I's too Old to care."
02/10/2011: Beverly from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "You go, Robert AND Loretta. Very true what you both say. Our health care system is a for-profit system. How can they profit if we all get well? They profit from making us believe we have to take a certain pill or a slew of certain pills for the rest of our lives, and that only they and their synthetic meds can diagnose or treat any illness.
It's become worse over the years. When I was a kid the only "medicines" that were advertised were over the counter things like aspirin and Alka Seltzer.
Health care costs more and more and insurance is over the top; some meds now cost $400 per bottle... Not to mention the cost of surgery and hospital stays. It's caused more bankruptcies in this country than anything else, most likely. The ONLY recourse we have now is nature. Where did all the synthetic meds come from anyway? Some bastardized form of something from nature.
Thanks for hearing my rant. I'm not nearly as angry as I may "sound". I'm just stating what I know to be true."
07/09/2011: Sweetpea from Selmer, Tn, United States replies: "You have that one right Robert & Loretta, I went to the ER and they gave me a discount for my visit which consisted of blood work, an IV & a CT scan... With a prescription for antibiotics but no pain meds! Before my discount my bill was over 9,000 dollars after it was still 3400 dollars! I took one shot of warm distilled apple cider vinegar tonite and have no pain!!!!"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 09/15/2011: John from Buffalo, New York Usa replies: "Yesterday morn woke to sharp stabbing pain in right kidney and symptoms of stones... Lost health insurance recently so looked to internet for home remedies. First thing I took 8 200mg ibuprofen pills and pain dulled bit and manageable. Started with lemon remedy I found here (initially 8oz fresh squeezed lemon juice then 1oz lemon juice in 8oz water every hour for 12 hrs) and felt only slight discomfort by bed time and seemed to be working.This morn woke up to same pain level as yesterday morn so I questioned how much relief came from the massive dose of ibuprofen from 24 hrs earlier. I bought raw unfiltered organic apple cider vinegar as a backup if the lemon thing didnt work so decided to take that approach this morn. I took no pain relievers to see if there would be real relief from the ACV. I mixed 2oz Apple Cider Vinegar with 6oz water and within half hour about half pain was gone. 1 hour later did 3oz Apple Cider Vinegar 5oz water... It's almost an hour since last mixture and I feel only slight discomfort when I get up from chair... about 90% of the pain is gone in 3 hours.
Something good is going on here and so far I can undeniably recommend Apple Cider Vinegar for immediate relief. I plan on doing this 3-4 times a day until something hopefully passes and don't think my stomach can handle any more Apple Cider Vinegar than that. After 3 hrs I do have discomfort in stomach but think 5oz in 2hrs may be a bit much for my system and light meal might help. In my case ACV gave amazing results immediately and encourage to chose over lemons. Will post progress in few days.....John"
09/15/2011: Jay from Toronto, Ont, Canada replies: "On 09/15/2011: John from Buffalo, New York Usa wrote:... "Something good is going on here and so far I can undeniably recommend Apple Cider Vinegar for immediate relief. I plan on doing this 3-4 times a day until something hopefully passes and don't think my stomach can handle any more Apple Cider Vinegar than that. After 3 hrs I do have discomfort in stomach but think 5oz in 2hrs may be a bit much for my system and light meal might help. In my case ACV gave amazing results immediately and encourage to chose over lemons. Will post progress in few days"John, you have a couple of other options here:
1. Regular apple juice will also work and if you drink about 30 ounces spaced out each day for a week or so all the large stones you have will be reduced in size to pass without any pain sensation. I had this situation a couple of years ago and I had an ultra sound about 3 weeks after my first attack(and drinking apple juice) and there was no evidence of any stones of any size left in my kidney.
2. Since you have no idea if there are more large stones in your kidney, perhaps if t would be better to safely eliminate them. There is an herbal solution that will also eliminate the problem. You can buy "chanca piedra" in capsule form at the health food store It has been used for centuries to eliminate kidney stones. Within hours of taking this herb as recommended the stones are broken into small easily passable pieces."
09/16/2011: Mick from Queensland, Australia replies: "I've used apple cider vineger for stones, yes it works very, very, very well, most doctors are so brainwashed at med school they won't look at any other cure, and they would go bust as well just like free energy devices we have had for last 100 or so yrs from dudes like nikola tesla its all about power, money, greed, control coz wisdom and knowing is power to us and not the so called rulers who do not care for us at all. If you think they do, go back to sleep ./, "
09/17/2011: Virginia from Sacramento, Ca replies: "Response to John of Buffalo, NY, USAJohn, I too woke up to excrutiating pain in my lower back and side. It was so bad that I couldn't walk, much less get myself to the hospital. It got progressively worse by the end of the day. Since I have no health insurance anyway, I went online for a natural remedy and discoverd this site. Wow! What a godsend! I read about the ACV remedy and my husband went right out and purchased the organic, unfiltered type and a bottle of cranberry juice. Like you, I felt fast relief in no time and am so jazzed about a natural inexpensive remedy. I plan to stay with the ACV on a daily basis because it's good for me in general. I also gave some to my cat who seems to have some sort of kidney or bladder infection. It worked right away. I'm a believer of the stuff now."
[NAY] 09/26/2011: Christy from Sacramento, Ca replies: "I was praying this would work for me. Unfortunately it did not work. I guess I will try the lemon one next."
[YEA] 10/07/2011: John from Buffalo, New York replies: "Hey gang!! Giving an update from my 9/15 post... I believe I'm cured using apple cider vinegar!! Within 48 hrs I was pain free except for when I belched or hiccuped I felt sharp pain. That lasted for about 2 weeks til I had zero symptoms. The strainer I peed through lol was something I found in kitchen drawer which think is used to possibly sprinkle powdered sugar or something like that... Point is after 3 weeks I peed out a couple tiny blobs that barely clung to strainer.. The only way to describe is texture was maybe a bit firmer than tooth paste. I'm not 100% sure if these were part of my stones but I have absolutely No symptoms or pain whatsoever!I initially started my 1st couple days treatment with 2oz Apple Cider Vinegar in 6 oz water 4x day... It was gross and my stomach couldn't take anymore. After that I just limited the same dose to 2x day and was tolerable. I also drank a half gallon water and resumed some bad habits like coffee and soda. Jay thanks for heads up on chanca piedra and gonna do it and see if something happens but I really think my stones are gone.
I continue with my Apple Cider Vinegar 2x day cuz I noticed some other benefits like congestion from allergies and joint pain in both knees, ankles and pinky finger(broke few years ago) have just about all gone away. I wake up feeling normal and I am sleeping much better. I used to wake up so congested and tired in the morn... My head felt like a sack of cement and eyes blurry and bulging... I now wake up with no congestion feeling well rested and my eyes are focused!!! Hope this helps all in need and will follow up on any replies.... Take care, John"
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APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, OLIVE OIL
01/12/2012: Monica from Stephenville, Texas, Usa writes: "I woke up today at 9AM with the tell-tale signs of an oncoming kidney stone attack. By 3:20PM I passed a kidney stone the size of a peppercorn (not sure how many mm's that is).
This is what I did from the onset: I took 2x 200mg generic Ibuprofen (aka Motrin) with a glass of water right away; then I squeezed the juice of 4 smallish lemons onto a gallon of filtered water that I already had on hand (our local tap water has lots of calcium); then I mixed 2 oz. Of olive oil and 2 oz. Of organic apple cider vinegar (that thankfully I already had these items) and drank it with my nose pinched (chase it with some lemon water to kill the taste because all that oil made me nauseous); then I ran myself a hot bath to warm up and relax the mucles in the kidney region so that they might let the stone through easier - for 20 minutes (ICING THE AREA DOES NOT WORK... I learned that the hard way from last time); then I went to bed, dressed warmly, in a warm room, with a hot water bottle propped against my right kidney; I had gallon of lemon water and more pain pills (just in case) by my bed; I sipped about a cup of lemon water before falling asleep; I slept till about noon; when I got up, I kept replacing hot water bottle with more hot water, keeping it agaist the right kidney keeping it warm; at the same time I continued to drink lemon water and urinating into a container, checking for stones. On the third trip to the bathroom (about half gallon of water has been drunk by this time) at about 3:20PM, I felt a sharp prick along with my urine flow at the "exit point" of the urethra (right where the urine exits the body). The stone was out! Now I will have it analyzed by my doctor.
Hopefully this helps others because it was a total opposite to my last experience 2 years ago, where I was writhing on the floor in pain, throwing up, and asking God for mercy, ending up in the emergency room, with little sympathy, 2 morphine shots and a bill for over $4 grand!!
Right now, I am in high spirits, have no need for any more pain pills, I will continue to use the hot water bottle and will continue to drink the rest of my lemon water till the end of today. And I will probably not eat anything today just to give the kidneys a rest.
Hope this helps others!"
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APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, OLIVE OIL AND LEMON JUICE
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[YEA] 01/30/2012: Myles from Cranston, Rhode Island Usa writes: "I am a 58 year old male who just got my first kidney stone last Tuesday. I have never experienced so much pain. I went to the er for 6 hrs. They found a kidney stone 2cc. I drank 10 glasses of water a day but to no help on passing the stone.
This morning I read replies on this site and took 2oz of olive oil, and 2oz of lemon juice. 2 hours later I took 2oz of apple cider vinegar. 3hrs. later the stone came out. I have been in pain for almost a week. I hope this can help others."
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APPLES, OLIVE OIL
08/05/2009: Alfred from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "Kidney Stones/Gall Bladder Stones: Years ago I had kidney stones.. very painful. drank gallions of cranberry juice. finally passed stone through my urnine. Amazing the more you read ..the smarter you get. Just read article. This guy ate Apples all day, before bedtime drank a cup of olive oil.. the next line I like.."The following morning, stones passed thru the Stool." THAT SURE MUCH EASIER THAN IN THE URINE..
STAY WELL MY FRIENDS. Please remember.."Health is worth More than money"
Alfred"
09/08/2009: Dr. Dan from Charlottesville, Va replies: "It is impossible for a kidney stone to pass through stool unless the person involved was built like a bird and has a cloacae. The human urinary and fecal systems are completely separate and in no way connected."
09/08/2009: Philip from Dearing, Ga replies: "To Dr. Dan. With all do respect, Alfred never said it was kidney stones passed. If you look at the start of his post, it says Kidney stones/Gall-stones. He actually just says this is easier than through the urinary tract. So I am pretty sure he is speaking of Gall stones, which are probably liver stones."
09/09/2009: Robert Henry from Ten Mile, Tn Usa replies: "Kidney stones pass out the urinary tract and Gall and Liver stones pass out the digestive tract. We do a liver flush twice a year following a 10 day liver and lymph detox. The first year it was stones, but is just small gravel since. Apple juice for a week prior to the lemon and olive oil for both a kidney and liver flush. Our anti aging doctor wants us to do the 10 day liver and lymph detox four times a year, but I can just stand so much broccoli."
07/30/2011: Wellspruce from Juneau, Ak, Usa replies: "Had 1.2 cm, yes cm stone removed Nov 2002 and been battling stones in both ureters the past few years determined not to have the litho procedure again. For years I've been battling daily with 3-4 qts lemon in water, one sometimes two servings gravel root in cup of water along with hydrangea and urinary with cranberry daily. Had a lot of bleeding over the fall and winter, a lot, but was nursing a dear friend and didn't have it in me to deal with the stones and the care giving. I got back on my regimen about January but the stones are either growing in size or just lodged at the end of the ureters at the bladder on both sides. Feel no pain if walking or standing but sitting and laying down get a lot of pain. Haven't slept much past week or ten days. This morning I did the 12 oz lemon bomb followed by 4 oz vinegar three hours later. Almost immediately became nauseaous and fought keeping it down until about an hour ago and lost it all. Far too much acid I'm sure. I doubt much of the vinegar got through but maybe most of the lemon.I did 3 oz lemon with 3 oz olive oil twice over last weekend and one night woke with the stone on the right trying to pass through to the bladder. Wasn't painful though. It didn't make it through as I continue with pain that side. I reiterate I have increasing pain even after the lemon/olive oil treatments last weekend so they're still there. BTW I have calcium oxylate stones, or that's what the one ten years ago was.
Anyway, I'm going to keep working at this until I get these stones dissolved. Please pray for me if you would. I can't afford the procedures for both sides which would be around $30-40,000 as many of you can attest to. Any words of wisdom or encouragement I would appreciate. I'm inspired by the success stories here and know one of them, after some of these treatments, will work for me too."
07/31/2011: Barbara from Denver, Co replies: "Wellspruce, I can really relate to your problem. 2 years ago I went through the same thing, with a 1.2 kidney stone. By the time I got to hospital I had sepsis and spent the next 4 days in a daze, on antibiotics and morphine. If I'm not mistaken, the doc shoved the stone back into my kidney, then the next 2 months with a stent, then the litho. No insurance. The litho really didn't work too well, and I was left with 40, 000 in medical bills. Even the stone analysis didn't have enough to give me the type of stone. I went to a high raw diet and slowly over time the stone just slowly disappeared as the final test showed nothing.I worried for a long time that I would have the same problem again, but seem to be fine. The thing I gradually came to realize was, the few weeks before I got sick I put myself under a lot of stress, was working with a crazy self imposed deadline and angry all the time. Seriously angry all the time. And I believe that is what contributed more than anything to my getting the stone. I have read that kidney stones are just that - undissolved anger. Made me really think about my priorities. I have mellowed a lot since that time - being sick made me a nicer person :-) and the raw food gives my body a lot of nutritional support. I also grow and juice wheatgrass now, and have pretty much cured my rheumatoid arthritis as well.
So good luck and keep up with the lemon juice. I juice one or two lemons every day to add to my green drink. I believe that is what finally dissolved my stone. I never want to go through that again, so I try to stay pretty happy!"
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BAKING SODA
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[YEA] 06/18/2011: Chuck from Rockford, Il writes: "This post does not constitute medical advice. I am not a healthcare professional and I have no training in the health field. This post is here solely for the purpose of sharing my story. The information that I am about to share is not a substitute for the expertise and judgment of your healthcare professional. The information is not intended to cover all possible uses, directions, precautions, drug interactions, or adverse effects, nor should it be construed to indicate that this information is safe, appropriate, or effective for you. Baking soda overdoses have resulted in people being rushed to the emergency room and even death. You should consult your healthcare professional before taking any course of action.
I tried just about everything for my kidney stones but nothing seemed to work- lemon juice with olive oil, apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, magnesium, and the lemon juice bomb all failed to get rid of my stones. I had acidic urine and I knew that alkalinizing my urine would dissolve my stones that thrived in acidic urine (e.g. Calcium oxalate and uric acid stones). I was initially reluctant to do it because I knew that people can overdose on baking soda and get rushed to the emergency room or even die, but I decided to take the risk. I then tried baking soda (also known as sodium carbonate) and it dissolved my kidney stones by the next day! Here's the dosage information that I used from drugs.com:
Usual Adult Dose for Urinary Alkalinization:
325 to 2000 mg orally 1 to 4 times a day. One gram provides 11.9 mEq (mmoL) each of sodium and bicarbonate.
http://www.drugs.com/mtm/sodium-bicarbonate.html
MY STORY
I went on the Atkins diet and my fat was melting off effortlessly. However, a little while after I gave up drinking milk and diet Mountain Dew I noticed that when I tested my urine pH with urinalysis test strips it went from being alkaline to being acidic. I didn't think too much of it at the time as all I cared about at the time was testing for urine protein. Not too long after giving up milk and diet Mountain Dew I got sharp pains in my middle back around the bottom edge of my rib cage. My dad died from kidney failure so I was extremely scared that my kidneys were failing too so I went to my family doctor.
When I went to the doctor, he said that I had a pulled back and did a blood test which showed that my kidney function was great! However, he did his own urinalysis and found blood in my urine. So he said to take it easy on the weightlifting and see him again in 2 weeks. However, the pain turned into aches that spread from my back to my loins and flank. I waited a week but my urinalysis test strips showed that I was still bleeding. At that point I figured it wasn't the weightlifting and then I did some research. My urinalysis test strip didn't show any leukocytes so I ruled out a urinary tract infection (plus infections are rare in men and I am a man). The blood tests showed that my kidneys were fine, plus I didn't see any protein in my urine so I didn't think it was my kidney. So I figured that I probably had kidney stones in acidic urine, which probably meant calcium oxalate or uric acid stones. That's when I found this forum and started trying out the remedies that were suggested.
A. Lemon Juice and Olive Oil - Failure
I took 2 oz of Lemon Juice and 2 oz of Olive Oil once a day for two days. It did absolutely nothing for me. I still felt the aches in my loins and flank and I was still detecting blood in my urine. I figured that I wasn't taking enough so I increased took 2 oz of Lemon Juice and 2 oz of Olive Oil twice a day for 3 days. That did absolutely nothing for me either. So I decided to move onto the next remedy.
B. Apple Cider Vinegar Failure with side effects
I bought the Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar with the mother since it seemed that was the one that was recommended. I took a shot (1.5 oz) at midnight and went to bed. But the next day I still had the same aches and still detected blood in my urine. On top of that, I lost my appetite. I felt weaker from the lack of food and forced myself to eat a banana for the entire day. Not wanting to give up so easily, I increased the amount of Apple Cider Vinegar to 2 oz that night. The next day, I got the same disappointing results aches and blood with a loss of appetite.
I went to the doctor after this since it was about the end of 2 weeks. Of course he did the urinalysis test strip and found more blood and then referred me to a kidney doctor (nephrologist). However, I didn't want to see the nephrologist since I figured I had kidney stones, I didn't want to pay for a specialist as I only had disaster health insurance, and I didn't want to have surgery after reading about other people's accounts of pain and side effects after surgery.
C. Lemon Juice Alone So I decided to try the lemon juice without the olive oil and see what would happen. I started out with 2 oz of lemon juice for a couple days and I still had aches and blood. Then I increased it to 4 oz a day for the next few days and still the same results aches and blood. I knew I had to try something new.
D. Magnesium Citrate Reduced pain but not cured
I read Ted's post on magnesium in the gallbladder section and found it very illuminating. Reading the studies on how magnesium was able to not only prevent kidney stones but also cure them in some people intrigued me. It was well worth the read so I am reposting Ted's link:
http://www.mgwater.com/rod16.shtml
I also read Fred's account on magnesium citrate. I found it very interesting that the real reason why lemon juice is supposed to work is because there is potassium citrate in the lemon juice, and the liver then takes the citrate and converts it into bicarbonate (which is a strong base). The bicarbonate then alkalinizes the urine. Having read that very acidic urine is one of the precursors to calcium oxalate or uric acid kidney stones, I was persuaded that magnesium citrate was the type of magnesium that I wanted to take. Here's the link Fred shared on lemon juice and potassium citrate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsqrXkRVk3U
Then I thought about why my kidney stones formed after stopping diet Mountain Dew. I looked at the label and sure enough, diet Mountain Dew has sodium citrate! I figured that's why my urine turned acidic when I stopped diet Mountain Dew (I drank 24-48 oz/day). But I wasn't about to start drinking diet Mountain Dew again!
I also read about how magnesium is able to bind with oxalate in your system and how magnesium oxalate is 567 times more soluble than calcium oxalate and thus reduce the incidence of calcium oxalate stones:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalate
I bought 400 mg magnesium citrate tablets at my local health food store and took one everyday for a week. I noticed that about 90% of my pain disappeared, but that 10% pain and the blood in my urine was enough to remind me that I still had kidney stones. But magnesium citrate was successful in that it made the aches and pains bearable.
E. Lemon Juice Bomb reduced blood but not cured
I ran across what I call the "lemon juice bomb" on youtube. This man started by drinking 8 oz of lemon juice and then every hour after that drank 1 oz of lemon juice in 8 oz of water for 12 hours. His pain went away. Here's his video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVjLdBwTVjM
I tried it. Drinking all of that lemon juice really makes you hate the taste of lemon juice. The next morning I had dry mouth, it was an unquenchable thirst. I drank about 2 liters of water just that morning and my mouth still felt thirsty. But when I checked my blood it went down a noticeable amount, but the blood was still there. Thankfully the dry mouth went away the next day, but it was enough to make me not want to do the lemon juice bomb again.
F. Baking Soda SUCCESS!
I was encouraged by the lemon juice bomb in that it decreased my blood, but I wasn't about to go through that experience again. I started thinking how I could get the alkalinizing effects of lemon juice without having to drink lemon juice because by then I HATED drinking lemon juice. Then I started thinking about how the liver takes the citrate from lemon juice and turns it into the strong base bicarbonate to alkalinize the urine to dissolve the kidney stones. I started thinking that instead of trying to beat around the bush and drink lemon juice to get the bicarbonate, why don't I just take straight bicarbonate? I knew that baking soda was a source of bicarbonate in the form of sodium bicarbonate, so I decided to take it. I was initially hesitant to take it because I knew that an overdose of baking soda would send me to the emergency room or even kill me, but I decided to take the risk.
I found on drugs.com a dosage of 325-2000 mg 1-4 times a day to alkalinize the urine. I translated this to about a ¼ teaspoon of baking soda and took it every 4 hours. On the first day at the end of the first day I my urinalysis showed that it decreased my blood! The next morning, my urine was cloudy and that excited me I figured that cloudiness was the remains of my kidney stones! I did the urinalysis but was very disappointed to see that there was still a detectable amount of blood in the urine. I tried increasing the dosage to half a teaspoon but then I felt weak, nauseous, and I had to go to the bathroom every 10 minutes. I think I had a mild overdose but thankfully I recovered about an hour or two later, so I went back to the ¼ teaspoon dose. I continued the baking soda and by the end of the day no blood! No pain! I checked my urine on the third day and it showed no blood too! I went out and bought my favorite beer to celebrate!"
Replies10/03/2011: Workaholic2000 from Holmfirth, Yorkshire replies: "Chuck from Rockford - I think you tried every method in the book there Chuck, The Baking Soda SUCCESS was probably just the result of the combined assault you put on the Kidney stones.Im doing the same thing at the moment - Trying everything! - some small stones are starting to show in my urine - Just got to keep going at it!"
12/18/2011: Chuck from Rockford, Il replies: "It certainly could be the case that it was a cumulative effect, but either way - whether it was cumulative or if the baking soda alone did it - the baking soda was effective and got the bleeding and pain to stop.Whatever method or methods of remedies you try, I wish you luck in getting rid of those stones!"
02/07/2012: Jeff from Dallas, Tx replies: "I woke up with a kidney stone movement early Friday morning, February 3. Went to the ER, got sedated and a CAT scan, 4.5 MM stone on my right side. Discharged, and told the usual, drink lots of water and try to flush it. This is my second stone in 5 years. I also got a script for Hydrocodone.I tried all the remedies here: Lemon juice (artificial) and olive oil, no effect. Apple Cider vinegar, no effect. Drank lots of water, no effect. Lots of apple juice, no effect, lots of cranberry juice, no effect. I still have the stone, and I've seen 3 physicians in the past 5 days.
I don't know what kind of stone it is, but nothing has worked. I've been on normal dosages of B6, Magnesium Citrate, and picked up some Stone Free at the health food store. I think that it could be stuff that is helpful on the preventive side, but not anything that could or has helped with this immediate problem.
My urologist shot another x-ray 5 days later, and said the stone was ready to drop into the bladder. But, he said I could either keep flooding with with fluids or he could take it out. I'd rather let it come out naturally, so I'm choosing to stay jacked up on Hydrocodone, and flood the dude out of my system. But, if I'm still not free of the critter in 2 days, I'll have him remove it.
So, sadly, no positive news to report on any of the home remedies, including the jump and bump. I even went for a short run, and made sure to have plenty of bumps, but nothing. The only thing that is working for me is the pain killer, and flooding with fluids. Oh, the urologist did say I could drink plenty of beer, just not with the pain killers. He was obviously all about drinking lots of fluids, and it did not make any difference to him which or what fluids they were. However, he was very skeptical that apple juice would do anything. By the way, I did not try baking soda or chanca piedra.
So, that's it from Dallas on February 7, 2012. Hoping to break it loose in 24 hours."
02/08/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Jeff, I have often drank the non-alcohol beer when my kidneys need that extra natural flush. Another home remedy for Kidney Stones is to eat one large Watermelon and immediately soak in a hot bath for 30- minutes. I don't know much other about this remedy, but it might be worth your search because I have heard that it is very effective AND painless."
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[YEA] 10/04/2008: Melissa from Pilot Grove, MO writes: "I wanted to add another remedy to your list for kidney stones. I'm still not sure why this one is not getting out there to the people as quick as it should, since it is such a fast and reliable fix. So, I would like to suggest Banaba Tea.(crepe myrtle) I buy mine from the overseas, though I have seen herbal shops online in the US carry it as well. Japan, the Phillipines, and others primarily use it for diabetes control. I guess that because that is such a big deal, they tend to forget what it originally was used for by people and that was kidney stone relief and other kidney ailments. It's fast thank goodness! Not only do I use it, but many friends and family also. It's much better than the regretfull look doctors give you as they hand you pain pills and pat you on the back to say good luck when they send you home to pass one the old fashion way!
Shockingly enough, not only does it dissolve the problem stone but anyone that was sent home with a strainer will be shocked at just how much other potential stone minerals they had in their kidneys as well, when they begin seeing what looks like clumps of wet sugar in their strainer!
One word though, some care does have to be taken on where you buy it from. I have tried to save some money before and ended up with tea that did nothing for me.
Thanks, Melissa"
RepliesEC: Websites with additional information:
"Banaba leaves have been traditionally used over thousands of years in Philippines and as folklore treatment by the native Indians and more recently used by the Japanese, mostly as tea preparation. Banaba leaves and their ability to reduce blood sugar, and its "insulin-like principle" made it popular herb to be used as herbal decoction and with others in many formulations for controlling blood sugar and weight loss." http://www.sssbiotic.com/product/banaba.asp
Diabetes Information: http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2005/11/01/4440.html
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagerstroemia_speciosa
01/07/2011: Raquel from Davao City, Philippines replies: "i had pain in my back and tried Horsetail tea for five weeks and pau d'arco tea after that for three days. My pain was releived but back again now. so I'm thinking it's kidney stones, not just kidney prob since I'm diabetic. I'll try the crepe myrtle tea or ACV and see what happens."
01/08/2011: Raquel from Davao City, Philippines replies: "cebukaw with canyan tea also works, according to my daughter in law who had kidney stones."
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[YEA] 11/17/2008: Gustavo Garza from Laredo, Tx writes: "Well my friends I make more kidney stones than a brick factory, and I do think that all the remedies Ive read may have some true in them. But what have worked for me is Corona Beer or Miller Highlife. These are the only two beers that I have certainly noticed help me pass my kidney stones. I drink them 2 or 3 a day before bed time to let it work overnite. and woola. It works and they taste great."
Replies01/30/2009: Ashley from Houston, TX replies: "That's dangerous advice for someone with oxolate stones. Beer contributes to the formation of stones."
05/31/2009: ANIF from Toronto, ON, Canada replies: "Instead of Beer you could use the actual ingredients from the beer - Barley.Consume 1 bowl of barley soup, porridge or any other barley dish in your diet and your kidney stone will flush out and will dissolve."
07/26/2009: Tammy from Eau Claire, WI replies: "According to Dr. Joseph Mercola:
Beer, soy, and sodas ALL contribute to the formation of stones. Soda is high in phosphoric acid. Other foods to avoid contain oxalate, and they are:
- Spinach
- Rhubarb
- Chocolate
- Parsley
- Beetroot
- Strawberries
- Wheat flour
- Pepper
- Nuts"
01/15/2010: Colleen from Mesa, Az replies: "depends on what kind of stone it is."
[NAY] 03/15/2011: Matt from New York, Usa replies: "I think natural cures are a joke. Ihave had kidney stones since I was 20. I am now 47 ( in two weeks). I have tried everything. The lemon juice and olive oil...... The vinegar and so on. Yet my kidney stones continue to form, continue to hurt, and continue to pass. One was too large to pass and had to be treated by lyhotrypsy and that did not work..... So they had to go in and retrive it.
I wish to GOD these remedies really worked. I am so tired of being in pain. I can't sleep, can't work properly, and can't care for my family they way I should. Kidney Stones are EVIL!!!"
03/15/2011: T from Maryland, Usa replies: "Natural remedies work for plenty of people. Not all things will work the same for all people. I'm sorry you've had no luck so far. I think you need to address the root cause of why you keep developing these in the first place. What is your diet like?"
05/01/2011: Vega1vince from Orlando, Fl replies: "Make sure your ACV is raw unfiltered, unpasterized, organic ACV. Its the mother!"
10/01/2011: Workaholic from Yorkshire, Holmfirth replies: "Dont give up on Lemon / Olive oil or the Cider Vinegar. I am alternating these to daily and using the Cola and asparagus on weekends. I shall continue until my Kidney stones have vanished. I have stopped bleeding and have passed 4 stones so far 3- 4 mm. I have one 10mm stone left to eliminate."
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[YEA] 12/15/2007: Kat from murray, ut writes: "beer, not drink alot, one a week. that will help break down the kidney stone. My grandma went to the doctor when she first had one, they said Beer, and it's helped ever since. even my dad does it. as well as my sister."
Replies11/12/2008: Chops from Napier, New Zealand replies: "lol sounds like a good excuse to have a couple of beers to me"
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CHANCA PIEDRA
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[YEA] 04/16/2011: Tinrob from Middle Of Nowhere, Al writes: "For those people not helped by the ACV, lemon, and olive oil treatment I would suggest an herb called Chanca Piedra. I found out about it in 2008 after having my 7th bout with stones. I had the surgery and hurt so bad that the demerol wasn't touching it. I went online and found out about this great plant. It's name means stone breaker, and in addition to helping the urinary tract, it helps with blood pressure. It has to be imported and is not cheap, but it is cheaper than surgery and sooo worth it. I get mine online from nutrihealers, and I think you can get it from Amazon also. I have no ties to either place so not trying to promote a site. It comes in a liquid or capsule. The liquid works better but has a horrible taste. The capsules work really well also. When my first order arrived, within 2 days I felt like a different person. I took a dose of the liquid every 3 hours and drank lots of filtered water. I now take a dose a day for 1 week out of each month for maintenance and have had no more kidneystones. I ran out of Chanca at the end of last year and now doing the ACV honey drink every day and still no stones or blood pressure meds! YEAH!!"
Replies[YEA] 04/24/2011: Pat from Smalltown, Oregon replies: "I am currently being treated by the Urologist for Kidney Stones that started two months ago. My family has been plagued with them and we live in different parts of the country and eat different diets so I am sure this is hereditary. I put off going to the doctors for a month with an oblong stone that became stuck in my Ureter, approximately 4x7mm long. When I finally went to the Doctors they did a CT Scan and it also showed a 14mm stone in the upper part of my left kidney and a 3.5mm stone in the lower part.They addressed the stone in my Ureter with the first surgical procedure using a cytoscope instrument to break up the stone and extract it. They then installed a stent, a very uncomfortable tube to allow the Ureter to heal. Two weeks later I went in to have a Lithotripsy on the large stone in my left kidney and the Dr said he wanted to leave the stent in, I said no-way, to take the stent out! It was extremely uncomfortable with it causing spasms and feeling the movement of the coils on both ends in my kidney and bladder.
After they performed the Lithotripsy I was in continual pain for 5 days following with no particles straining out in my urine. I could feel that a stone had moved back to the location in my Ureter where the earlier one had blocked the flow, but this time it was still allowing things to flow. Luckily for me a friend called to ask how I was doing and informed me she had a stone like mine that had become lodged in her Ureter, and she had taken Chanca Piedra, aka "stone breaker" and she indeed had it work on the stone with it breaking it up allowing her to finally pass it! She recommended the liquid variety because she felt it worked better for her. The next day I was able to get to the health food store, bought some and started taking both the liquid & capsules. 3 1/2 days later the pain finally broke and some fine particles started coming out!
I returned to the Doctor a week later and had an x-ray taken, indeed the large stone they performed the Lithrotripsy on was gone, but the one in the lower part of the kidney had moved to the area in my Ureter. I have been continuing to take the "urgent" dose of Chanca Piedra 6 to 8 times a day. 4 days following that x-ray I feel that the stone broke up and passed yesterday, although I was away from home and not able to strain my urine. I will find out in another 1 1/2 weeks what the status is when the doctor has another x-ray taken.
I wanted to submit this so people would give this a try, as I feel it made a huge difference for me. I had intially tried the other remedies when I first started with the stone problem (ACV) somewhat helping with pain, but, it did not seem to dissolve the stone that was causing the blockage."
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[YEA] 03/06/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines writes: "I've been living in the Philippines for over five years now. As an uprooted Englishman, my own adjustment to the tropical climate was necessarily swift. For some years I've had a fascination for and have used herbs, but I was astounded at the proliferation and variety of fresh tropical herbs that I am now able to grow in my garden so easily. These range from simple well known herbs like Thyme and Oregano to more oblique herbs like Chanca Piedra, Heart Vine, Aloe Vera, Tumeric root and Neem. So, over a period of time, I experimented and used many of these herbs very successfully for my own systemic candida and other problems, which are now all gone. I have also used both Heart Vine and Chanca Piedra over the years to successfully help people with diabetes, gout, high blood pressure, arthritis and candida problems.
There was one old Filipino who was quite badly constipated -- in a serious condition -- he hadn't been able to go to the toilet for over a month!! His family had tried all the usual laxatives with no success at all. I figured it must have been a blockage caused by a lack of liver bile, so I gave him the Chanca Piedra and Heart Vine remedy. He had a rather large evacuation after about 3 days of taking this decoction and he is now fine.
But I have had more recent success with my old and favourite Chanca Piedra and Heart Vine decoction remedy. I live behind a large but poor Filipino shanty where I have a friendly relationship with the community. They are lovely, happy people. Recently, an uncle of a Filipino friend said he went to the doctor complaining of abdominal shooting pains and bloating. The doctors diagnosed gallstones and insisted that they would have to operate to remove the gallbladder (gallbladder removal rarely, if ever, cures gallstones in the long run).
But the uncle was far too poor and couldn't afford the operation anyway. So a family member mentioned this problem to me and I taught him how to recognize and find the herbs, which all grow in the area, and I showed him how to make the standard decoction -- which consists of just two herbs -- Heart Vine (Tinospora cordifolia) and Chanca Piedra (Phyllanthus niruri) with daily dosages. In the Philippines, both these plants are regarded as useless weeds believe it or not. But in Indian Ayurvedic medicine these two herbs are revered for their rejuvenating and tonic properties.
Anyway, two months went by and word was eventually passed to me that the uncle with the gallbladder problem had successfully passed out all his gallstones naturally while taking the decoction and he was healthy once again. I really love it when I get feedback like this. To me it is simply the best sort of confirmation whether a remedy works or not."
RepliesEC: Bill's above feedback on Chanca Piedra and Heart Vine was originally published in our recent 02/28/2011 newsletter. Read the newsletter in entirety here.
08/31/2011: Sylvia from Markham, Ont, Canada replies: "Bill, I can't find Chanca Piedra or Heart Vine where I live. Are these plants available in seed form? You could be helping people to grow these plants to cure their gallstone/kidney stone problems if they could be sent to us."
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09/27/2009: Bill from Malden, Mo writes: "Someone calling into a recent medical health show mentioned "chunk-a-pietra" [spelling???] as a curative to dissolve all types of stones in the body. Does anyone know what this is, or the correct spelling? thanks."
RepliesEC: Hi Bill, it's called Chanca Piedra, aka Phyllanthus Niruri. We already have feedback about this herb on the site.
More info on Wikepedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllanthus_niruri
Extracts of this herb have shown promise in treating a wide range of human diseases. Some of the medicinal properties suggested by numerous preclinical trials are anti-hepatotoxic, anti-lithic, anti-hypertensive, anti-HIV and anti-hepatitis B.[1][2] However, human trials are yet to show efficacy against Hepatitis B virus. [3]
The plant has long been used in Brazil as an herbal remedy for Kidney stones. Reseach among sufferers of Kidney stones has shown that, while intake of Phyllanthus niruri didn't lead to a significant difference in either stone voiding or pain levels, it may reduce urinary calcium, a contributing factor to stone growth.[4] In addition, one study conducted on rats showed that an aqueous solution of Phyllanthus niruri may inhibit kidney stone growth and formation in animals who already have stones.[5]
09/27/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "For everyone's information, kidney stones are composed of 4 different types of material: uric acid stones, calcium oxalate stones, cystine stones and struvite stones."
[YEA] 05/26/2010: Shannon from Ottawa, On replies: "I found out 6 months ago i had 2 kidney stones. One in my left kidney and one in my right. They were 3 and 4mm in size. Right away i started searching for ways to get rid of them, as i was dreading having to go through the horrible pain of passing them myself.
While researching, i came across the lemon juice method, as well as a herb called Chanca Piedra.
I read to drink a full cup of lemon juice followed by 1 oz in 1 cup of water for the next 12 hours. I have a lot of stomach problems so i wasn't able to do that. Instead about once a month i would drink a cup of lemon juice over a few hours, or make a salad dressing with lemon juice and EVOO.
I then purchased Chanca Piedra in pill form and took 2 pills once daily for about a month. It has now been 6 months since that Ultrasound, and I had a follow up Ultrasound this morning to check and see if the stones had grown or moved. The technician just looked at me and said "Where are your stones?!" I never passed them, but they are gone. He said there was a little bit of calcification in the kidneys, but no definitive stones like there were last time. I honestly didn't believe that these remedies would work, but i was willing to try even if there was only a 10% chance. So for all those who are skeptical, GO FOR IT. These remedies are painless and inexpensive and are TOTALLY worth it. I will be recommending them to ANYONE and EVERYONE i meet that has had experiences with stones."
05/27/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Shannon...I completely agree with you about Chanca Piedra, a truly remarkable herb. When I was taking my anti-candida protocol, I took several herbs everyday in a decoction and one of them was Chanca Piedra. I also took coconut oil as well as the juice of lemon and limes daily in Ted's alkalizing protocols with BS.
I'm not sure what happened but from the outset all my gallstones came out(I could feel them) at toilet over a period of 2-3 months. And not only did I loose weight, but as an added benefit my tummy became flat again...!!
I have high respect for Chanca Piedra, a remarkably powerful herb, which continues to grow wild as a weed in my garden here in the Philippines. I still take it once every month as a simple decoction for liver, kidney, immune system and blood support with other herbs(that also grow in my garden)."
05/28/2010: Merryanne from Orange City, Florida, Usa replies: "Hello Bill, I would like to talk with you about the herbs you grow in your garden, I also have a garden, please write me at merryanne1947 at yahoo dot com,,I live in Florida so the weather is usually ok, Thank you from Merryanne in Central Florida"
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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 04/21/2009: Aicha from Bedford, Beds UK writes: "I am a first time sufferer of kidney stones. My problem started at end of January. I was diagnosed with a kidney stone in my left kidney. My consultant after checking my scan again, then wrote to me to tell me i had in fact another stone also in my utherer. I have gone through hell to say the least the most pain of which semed to be coming from the "stent" and the continuous infections and always bleeding every time i passed urine. I have other medical conditions so used to dealing with pain and so have a very high pain threshold but this has truly been unbearable. I have been hospitalized 3 times so far! Recently someone mentioned chancy piedra so i rushed to order online and at the same time also saw this website for the first time.
This morning I have taken 3 cups of chancy piedra so far (and also the lemon juice and olive oil method for good measure). It is too soon to say whether i will pass the stones etc but i know one thing already..the excruciating pain i have suffered since end of January has actually gone for the first time!
My surgery is scheduled for tommorrow to remove the stone from my utherer and when i recover from the surgery i have been told i will need at least 2 lots of lithotripsy to remove the other stone as it is so big...
I wish i had seen this several weeks ago and i am 100% sure if i continue to take the piedra i will not need the lithotripsy...Have had so much time off work already and of course i will need another 4-6 weeks to recover from the op..There has been so much wasted time and all the hospital does is give you painkillers and antibiotics which in the end stopped working. I ended up having to take morphine as the pain was so bad!...I also suffered from acid reflux/reflux disease which developed into barratts esophegus so i will also be trying the aloe vera and also magnesium..Many thanks to all readers for their immensely helpful comments."
Replies04/23/2009: Aicha from Bedford, Beds UK replies: "I have just had my surgery (yesterday) which was successful but the amazing thing is my consultant, during surgery, tried to locate my other extremely large stone in my kidney but couldnt find it.. I have a scan scheduled for 2 weeks time to make sure it has gone so needless to say, i will continue to take the piedra ...will keep readers posted as to the final outcome..."
05/30/2009: Connie from Manila, Philippines replies: "where to buy the chancy piedra? what is this medicine made of? thanks"
11/10/2009: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Connie...I live in Ilocos Sur in the Philippines and Chanca piedra grows like a weed in my area. Just go to Google Image and search for "chanca piedra" or "Phyllanthus niruri" and the images will show you what plant to look for.
Chanca piedra is also used widely in Ayurvedic medicine and is sold at Indian Deli stores in Manila. In Manila, if you go down United Nations Ave away from Roxas Bld you will come to the Unilever building on your left. Directly opposite is a line of Indian stores including Agad which sells Indian spices. At one of the other delis there I have bought two prepared indian condiments -- called Triphala and Caywanprash. Both contain chanca piedra. These condiments are both prepared in the natural ayurvedic way, with no chemical processing and no use of preservatives, colourings etc. You normally take just a spoonful or two a day of the Triphala or Chaywanprash and is regarded as beneficial food in India."
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[YEA] 09/21/2007: SUZANNES from Sacramento, CALIFORNIA writes: "HERE ARE 2 REALLY GOOD REMEDIES FOR DISSOLVING KIDNEY STONES: STONE BREAKER (CHANCA PIEDRA) AND I PUT ONE DROPPER FULL IN ONE CUP OF DISTILLED WATER. TO GET A DOUBLE WHAMMY I TAKE 5 TABLETS A DAY OF PLANETARY HERBALS BRAND OF STONE FREE..GOOD LUCK AND ONE MORE THING FOR ANY ULCER, HYATIL HERNIA OR ACID REFLUX TAKE 100% ALOE VERA AN OZ 3 TIMES A DAY. I AM A REFLEXOLOGIST AND KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE.."
Replies12/12/2009: Aaron from Stone Mountain, Ga replies: "I have used chanca piedra by making a tea. I have mixed chanca piedra and chamomile and drink about a liter of tea per day. I have passed well over 100 stones. When the last one began causing me pain, I began making the tea and drinking it every day. By the time I passed the stone--It was very large and spent a couple of weeks or more in my bladder, the stone fell to pieces. Chanca Piedra, according to research done at the University of Sao Paulo, Brazil affects the ability of the crystals to bond together. I am not sure it helps with pain, but it does cause the stone to dissolve over time."
12/15/2009: Shannon from Ottawa, On replies: "hi there, how long did you drink 1 liter of the tea daily before it passed?"
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CHECK FOR HYPERPARATHYROID
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[WARNING!] 09/03/2008: Rick from Inaka, JAPAN writes: "This is to add a strong second to one notice I have seen on this site to chronic kidney stone sufferers. If you have suffered repeated episodes of renal calculi buildup and passing kidney stones, it is advisable that you have your doctor run a simple blood test for hyperparathyroidism, an until recently little known condition that causes high blood calcium and a myriad of other symptoms including, but not limited to, depression, hypertension, loss of energy and interest, short temper, and even emotional instability. Many people suffer from this condition and do not know it, and many doctors are still unaware of it."
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06/24/2008: Elaine from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA writes: "I see many of the folks in the Kidney stones area are reocurring sufferers. Some of them should ask their doctors to check them for Hyperparathyroid. You have four to six small rice size glands that sit close to the thyroid. These glands regulate calcium in the blood. Primay hyperparathyroid is caused by a tumor. Secondary hyperparathyroid is caused by a lack of vitamin D. Ask your physician to check your PTH (parathyroid hormone) and blood calcium. Sometimes you have to have a tumor removed and sometims all you need is extra vitamin D."
RepliesEC: Click here for more information about hyperparathyroid.
10/02/2009: Gypsy85 from Coolidge, Tx/USA replies: "About 4 years ago I started having kidney stones. My blood calcium was out of wack. My doctors tested my parathyroid hormone level and it was sky high. According to the specialist who removed my bad parathyroid gland, there are 4 of them located on the back of the thyroid. After the surgery my PTH levels returned to normal with the other 3 gland going back on line (so to speak). The doctors kept monitoring me for stones and until last Wednesday (09/24/2009) I had not suffered an attack for two years. X-rays had been clear for over a year. I have not had a chance to try some of the remedies yet but will be doing so in the hope of dissolving the one blocking my left kidney. Doctors put a stent in on 09/28/2009. Thanks for the information and suggestions."
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CLEAVERS TEA
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[YEA] 11/16/2011: Wolfsizer from Marietta, Georgia writes: "I had blood in my urine for 3 weeks, and urologist suggested having surgery to remove the kidney stone. Stone never showed up on CT scan or x-ray but I was having pain so he believed there was a stone. I decided to not opt for the surgery and sought advice from a naturopath.
I was told to start drinking 5 cups of cleavers tea a day. I should note that I did do the olive oil/lemon juice flush that same morning. The first day of drinking the tea the pain episodes lessened and I did not need to take my pain meds after that. Every day the pain got better. When the pain came it was in my urethra like a faint stabbing pain instead of in my back so I knew it was working its way out. Then a week after drinking the tea, I felt a quick pinch while urinating and then it was over. I saw a stone in the toilet, which I captured, and measured at 8 mm and was told it would not pass without surgery. I am to say that it will."
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COCA COLA
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[YEA] 05/16/2007: Duane from Portland, Oregon writes: "I've had 2 (3mm) stones over the last few years. Drink six cans of warm Coke (Pepsi doesn't work) and hold it as long as you can. Latest CT-scan found 7 more stones in one kidney and 5 in the other, so I imagine I'm going to be drinking lots of Coke in the future. Looking for any other remedies that won't rot my teeth."
RepliesEC: Each bottle of coke has 43g of sugar, so you're talking about 258g of sugar flooding the system -- dangerous!!!
06/24/2008: John from Chicago, IL replies: "Ya, that sounds smart ... Since many doctors think allot of use have stones from drinking way too much pop.
Drink water ... You shouldn't drink calories anyways ... And stay away from dairy! Think about it if nature wanted us to drink milk all our lives women would always lactate! PLUS heart attacks are usually caused from calcium build up in our systems.
I have noticed the apple cider vinegar trick works ... much like cleaning out your coffee maker at home."
[NAY] 07/09/2008: Rox from Weschester, Ohio replies: "This is so untrue, coca cola and all other pop is helping cause all those stones you have. maybe if you drink less you will have less. try lime or lemon juice from the fruit itself."
09/27/2009: Lsummer18 from Miami, Florida replies: "I think the reason why the coco cola would work for anybody is because its high levels of phosphoric ACID would dissolve the kidney stones made out of calcium, i would only drink it if absolutely nothing is available and in much pain, other than that not recommended"
10/16/2011: Dc from Los Angeles, California, Usa replies: "I want to try phosphoric acid without having the sugar and additives in coke. Isn't there any other drink with phosphoric acid except for coke?Why can't I simply buy some food grade phosphoric acid and dilute it down to a safe level? I would do this only I don't know what the safe level would be and if I need any kind of buffer for the acid.
5 years ago I had a small calcium oxalate stone I passed with the help of a supplement. Now I have an 8mm stone stuck at the bottleneck just above the bladder. So far nothing has worked to dissolve the stone. It's been almost 4 months now. I'm beginning to think that all these home remedies worked for people because they had stones other than calcium oxalate."
[YEA] 10/17/2011: Linda from Eugene, Or replies: "Yes, it's the phosphoric acid in the Coke, you can just drink Diet Coke to avoid the sugar. It should be untrue that Pepsi doesn't work, all cola beverages have phosphoric acid as far as I know--I use Diet Rite because it has no caffeine and is sweetened with Splenda instead of NutraSweet, which I believe to be very harmful to one's health. Had two stones two years ago before I heard about the Coke approach, had to have surgery, nearly $25,000."
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[YEA] 03/16/2007: Bob from Edmonton, Canada writes: "Really interesting remedies. I've had stones for 20 years and so far have been fortunate enough to pass them all, usually one every year. On a couple of occasions on the way to the hospital to get a pain killer, knowing what was ahead of me I was drinking water and then I discovered a can of coke in the car, it was fluid so down it went. Some one told me that the acid in the coke would help relax the kidney muscle and make it easier for the stone to pass. In this case the stone passed. A ct scan recently showed multiple stones so I finally took one in last week to get analyzed to see what type it is."
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COCONUT OIL FLUSH
08/15/2009: Connie from Manitowoc, Wisconsin, USA writes: "A possible alternative to the olive oil flush which doesn't taste so aweful:
Prepare otherwise in the same way you would for the olive oil flush.
Instead of drinking the olive oil/lemon whatever combo (I tried one that included garlic) do the following:
Into your blender put
1/4 to 1/2 cup unrefined virgin coconut oil
1 or 2 peeled bananas
2 to 4 whole organic lemons - cut them into slices/chunks, leave the skin and all on
Blend it all together
Add some water to make it drinkable"
EC: Warning!
Drinking that much coconut oil might make someone very, very sick. While it is said that a therapeutic dosage of coconut oil is 3 to 4 tablespoons a day, side effects are typically experienced at the 1 teaspoon dosage!!
Read more about coconut oil side effects here: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/side_effects5.html#COCONUTOIL
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COCONUT WATER
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[YEA] 08/18/2011: Jeff from Cebu City, Philippines writes: "Where I live, its a common remedy to drink coconut water if you got kidney stones."
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COKE OR DILL PICKLE JUICE
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[YEA] 07/02/2007: Joseph from Vancleve, Mississippi writes: "I had my first kidney stone in Aug 2001. Calcium Oxylate. Dr. recommended I drink (1) coke per day. Acid suppose to keep stones from forming. July 2005 diagnosed with another kidney stone. Ct only showed one 2.5mm after 3 E.R. visits and 2 day hospital stay I was told Stone had passed. Two days later I had to have surgery to remove a 3x5mm stone. July 1 2007 suffering from another stone. I will try the olive oil and lemon. Dill pickle juice was the advice from a neighbor."
Replies[NAY] 05/23/2008: Paige from Forsyth, Georgia replies: "Kidney Stone Remedies: I would not recommend drinking cokes. For alot of people cokes and caffiene are what cause the stones. My husband suffers from this and we have had many doctors say, DO NOT DRINK COKES."
[NAY] 08/31/2011: Mauimoo from Kihei, Hi replies: "Nay, nay, nay!!!I believe my kidney stones in the past have been a direct cause of soda. When I spoke to my doctor after having them removed, he told me not to ever drink soda again.
The pickle juice I've never tried. I have tried unfiltered apple juice, and that has worked for me. I can't find it at the regular supermarket. So, I usually end up at our health food
store called Hawaiian Moons.
Good luck to you, With Aloha, Suanne"
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COKE, ASPARAGUS, WATER
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[YEA] 03/26/2011: Yvonne from Baltimore, Md writes: "Wed. Night I was in really pain, worst then labor. I realized that I may have kidney stones. After looking online I found a site that had the coke and asparagus remidy. The next day I went out and purchased the items. I used caffine free diet coke, and pureed the asparagus ( should have added salt ) but managed to drink a 8oz glass of the stuff. As of now my stone(s) have gone away and I'm not in any pain. Even though I paid $19.95 for the remidy online, it was worth the info. , however, it would have been nice to see this site first."
Replies07/01/2011: Debbie Darling from Gardiner, Maine replies: "I am looking for the proper quanities of coke, asparagus and water recipe for kidney stones. My husband suffers from kidney stones."
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[YEA] 01/30/2009: Mark from Atlanta, GA writes: "This is my experience with the Coke/Asparagus/Water Kidney Stone Treatment. I have been dealing with stones intermittently since my early 20s... I am painfully aware of the way my body feels right before an attack, which I experienced 5 days ago while at work. Once the sensations started, I went into the usual routine. Emergency room, extreme pain, IV painkillers, IVP/CT scan, pass the stone, get stuck with $1000s in ER bills. Well this time, I didn't pass the stone the same day... I dealt with it for the next 4 days, and even with the vicodin, I was pretty much at my wit's end. I decided to try the coke/asparagus treatment based on other's testimonials, and probably because in my delirious state of mind, it sounded so insane I thought it might work. So I doped myself up and went to the supermarket to buy some asparagus and a 12 pack of coke. I then followed the regimen. six 12oz cokes in two hours. Now, after the fifth soda, I thought I was going to explode... and I actually like Coke (which is probably part of the reason I was in this situation to begin with). However, I also felt something going on in my kidney. It wasn't painful, a bit uncomfortable, but I knew something was happening, almost like something back there was bubbling. After drinking the last can, I ate the asparagus puree (I blended about 1/2 pound of fresh boiled spears). Added a bit of salt to make it more palatable. And I kid you not...in less that 30 seconds I ran to the bathroom and passed the sesame seed sized stone that had been vexing me for the last 5 days. Needless to say, I was amazed. Now, also keep in mind, I did the olive oil/lemon juice trick about 2 hours before the asparagus/coke treatment, but the timing on the latter was pretty impeccable. So try 'em both, I guess. ANOTHER THING. Make sure you are near a bathroom for the next hour or so, 'cause all that fluid is gonna want to get out by any means possible. And don't plan on sleeping much that either because of all that caffeine/sugar. BOTTOM LINE. The treatment is not without it's mild side effects, but compared to the pain of passing a stone, I would say this treatment (or combination of treatments) definitely worked for me. I am going to see my urologist in a couple days and get the stone analyzed, so that might have some bearing on the effectiveness of this treatment."
Replies[YEA] 08/17/2009: Mike from Salt Lake City, Ut replies: "The Coke and asparagus remedy absolutely works...!!!
I was laid up for 3 weeks with a stone that I couldn't pass and the Surgeons could not reach. After 3 surgical attempts, I too was at wits end and decided to research some home remedies. Found and tried the Coke and asparagus remedy and had another CT scan 24 hours later...NO STONE. My doctor was speechless! When I told him what I had done, all he could do was shake his head and smile."
10/13/2011: Dc from Los Angeles, California, Usa replies: "I've got an 8mm stone stuck just above the bladder. So far none of the home remedies have worked to dissolve the stone. I'd like to try the the coke method but I'm leary of consuming that much coke simply to get the phosphoric acid that's in it. I've read that phosphoric acid is different than the citric acid found in lemmons. If that's true then I'd like to try phosphoric acid. Why can't I just buy some food grade phosphoric acid, dilute it down and then swallow it? Yes, I know that phosphoric acid is dangerous, but how dangerous could it be if I got the same dose as found in 2 liters or coke? Does anybody know how much phosporic acid there is in coke?"
[YEA] 12/29/2011: Billyb from Forney, Texas, Us replies: "I've tried the coke/asparagus fix a number of times and the pain went away quickly. Never caught a passing stone, it could have dissolved.Downside to this method. When you're suffering the pain for kidney stones, trying to get and keep down a bundle or two of pureed asparagus is difficult. Last time it was still hot from being cooked and it came back up. I don't drink many soft drinks so if I have to drink a liter of coke once every few years I'm not concerned. Hint, open the soda and let it get flat as possible. Try to kill the carbonation so you won't be burping. This method was recommended to me by friends who were chronic kidney stone suffers and it worked for them.
I will try this again now that I'm feeling better and can take the blended asparagus. I'll take advice and add some salt or something to make it more palatable."
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