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Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- 5 HTP
- 5 HTP and Magnesium Citrate
- ACV, Baking Soda and Cayenne
- Amino Acids
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Milk of Magnesia
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Supplements
- Apple Juice, Honey, Multi-Vitamin
- B-3 Nicotinic Acid
- Bentonite Clay
- Block Blue Light
- Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc
- Castor Oil
- Cherry Juice
- Coconut Oil
- Cod Liver Oil
- Cold Showers
- Colon Cleanse
- Cumin Seeds
- Don't Stress!
- Ear Plugs
- Elderberry Extract
- Eliminate EMFs
- Herb Tea
- Honey and Cinnamon
- Hypnic Jerks
- Ignatia Amara (Homeopathic Remedy)
- Kakao (Raw Chocolate)
- Lavender Oil
- Lemon Water
- Light Therapy
- Magnesium and Calcium
- Magnesium Citrate
- Marjoram Oil
- Mental Chatter Remedies
- Multiple Remedies
- No Cell Phone or Computer 2 Hours Before Bed
- Nutmeg in Warm Milk
- Oat Straw Tea
- Oil Pulling With Safflower Oil
- Onion by the Bedstand
- Potassium Iodine, Magnetic Pillow
- Prayer, Ocean Sounds, Phone Ringer Off!
- Remedies Needed
- Sea Salt
- Selective Insomnia
- Skullcap for Insomnia
- Sleep Disorder Remedies
- Sleep Mask
- Sleep Pointing North in Absolute Darkness
- Sodium Bicarbonate, Potassium Bicarbonate
- Sound Waves/ Vibrations
- Soursop Tea
- Suan Zao Ren
- Sweet Woodruff
- Ted's Alkalizing Remedy
- The Pillow Method
- Theanine, Taurine
- Valerian Root
- Vitamin D
- Wiggle the Toe Method
- Xiao Feng San
01/19/2012: Maria D from London, Uk: "Hi, would you please be able to begin a topic on HYPNIC JERKS? It's a life wrecking condition for so many people as it totally prevents one from falling asleep. The person will be able to fall asleep but will wake up *the second* he/she starts to drift by this jolt/jerk that. So the cycle goes for hours and hours. I really think this should be a topic on its own and not under insomnia as the person is able to actually fall asleep but keeps waking up from these jerks.
I would love to hear Ted's opinion on these hypnic jerks.
I have struggled with these for several years and they truly ruin my sleep completely. I know that alkalizing the body helps a lot. The things is, it always gets much much worse after I work out. The harder I work out the worse they get. It makes me wonder if the body cannot clear lactic acid, or wheter it's some kind of electrolyte imbalance.
I usually can keep these jerks under control by massive doses of Natural Calm magnesium. However, it gets really expensive and I usually must take doses so high that I get a loose stool the following day.
I am just about to try Ted's alkalizing baking soda/apple cider vinegar formula although I am not sure exactly what the best ratio would be for this.
I used to have perfect sleep and insomnia like once per year. A doctor once gave me a few pills of Xanax for minor anxiety attacks daytime (if I had known then about this poison... ) and after about 5 pills this nightmare began and has stayed with me for 8 years now....
Please, if possible, create this as a new topic as I know it will help many many people around the world.
01/19/2012: P from Middle, Fl replies: "You can move to California and get a prescription for them organic cigarettes that seem to be illegal in the rest of the united states (wink, wink)
you can check out; "Cat Nip Tea"
I read that it is an alternative to marijuana in the sense that it gives the same tranquil effects, they sell it as tea, but I've also read that young kids smoke it as well. but of course I'm suggesting the drink version!
Also check out 5htp and melatonin!
Good luck! I get that too and it is very irritating! I haven't tried the above because magnesium works well for me at least 500mg and chamomile tea with passion extract as well.
I don't live in california, but wish I did! ; )"
01/19/2012: Linda from San Francisco, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Maria, Have you tried a Magnesium Chloride or Epsom Salts bath before bedtime?
Or you might be able to get away with soaking your feet the way I do, as follows-
What I do when in a hurry to get to bed is put about 1/4 cup into a plastic dishpan, then stand in it as I shower, or if I'm already out of the shower I add a small amount of water (inch or so) to the pan with the Magnesium and stand in it as I brush my teeth before bed; I do not have hypnic jerk but I think it might be worth a try for you. Magnesium is the Great Relaxer..
OTOH something very like what you describe used to happen with me years ago, and it was actually a Bladder spasm. It was happening because I was "holding" urine too long and my body was desperately trying to clue me in. I hadn't even realized I was doing it... Just too much to do, and no time to stop.
I hope this helps,
01/20/2012: Hattonhall from Woodridge, Queensland, Australia replies: "Magnesium is rapidly absorbed through the skin, maybe a MagSolution is available which could save you over the high cost of those li'l ol' pills ??"
01/20/2012: P from Middle, Fl replies: "Hello Again! I forgot to tell you that Castor Oil on your eyes and lid might work also; minutes after putting it on, my eyes start to curl with sleep! I read that it cools you off indicating to your body that it's time for sleep!"
01/20/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Maria, I had the very same symptoms after I had to wear a brace during the night because I had had my teeth straightened! I had no idea more people had the same problem or that it had a name? It was awful and usually I would also have a big snore, would jerk and wake up over, and over and over again. After a while it got better but when the orthodontist changed the stand of the brace it started all over again! Somehow this stopped when I went to the nose doctor and he gave me two sprays and anti-histaminic pills. I think that if people have never had this they have no idea how it feels like and how miserable it makes one feel! It is like our body is working against us, like some sick joke where one is waken up every time one falls asleep, or some kind of torture. The orthodontist told me he had never heard of it but I can hardly imagine he hadn't as he was at the end of a long career but well, this way he didn't have to deal with my problem! Jerk!"
01/24/2012: Maria D from London, Uk replies: "Hi Linda, thanks, I have tried magnesium chloride by Natural Calm. It truly helps but in order for it to help I need to take about 4-5 times the RDA. It's way to much for my stomach to tolerate too, although I prefer good sleep. I am just wondering if there is anybody who has found a permanent cure to these jerks/jolts."
01/26/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Maria, I did... I left you a post a while ago! But I didn't have them longterm like you! As far as the magnesium chloride goes you can try to do it transdermally! Dissolve the crystals in water and apply to the skin. As I said I had the hypnic jerks on two different occasions (many days at a time) because of my orthodontic braces but with the nose sprays the doctor prescribed they disappears instantly! Now I don't wear braces anymore I don't have a problem! No idea other people had the same problem or that it had a name! The orthodontist told me that he had never heard of it but then... He was a jerk, took my money and never finished aligning my teeth!"
01/28/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Sorry Maria, I am not living at home right now so I can't see what the spray was called. I went to the doctor twice and I think that he prescribed the same stuff both times. He also prescribed a spray with sea water (that one I have here with me) and an antihistaminic. The mixture worked both times and now I don't use the braces anymore the jerking has stopped completely! I have no explanation.... But it was awful so I know what you are going through. And I only had it for a short while.... I got very afraid to go to bed! The orthodontist didn't want anything to do with it and I felt very alone! I still get the chills when I think about it! Torture, is the right description! All the best to you and when I go home at the end of February I hope to think about it and look for the spray. But any anti-congestion spray together with the sea water spray (to clean the nose to start with) and an antihistaminic might do the trick! Worth talking to a doctor about it..... It worked right away, amazing! The doctor had me sleep with a machine to record my sleep but it didn't work because I woke myself up all night! I suppose you googled that problem? I never did but luckily I got relief right away and the second time I just went back to the same doctor. I don't think that he knew the problem either!"
01/28/2012: Maria D from London, Uk replies: "Hi Francisca, sorry, I did read your post, thanks. I'm totally bewildered about your orthodontic experience. You wouldn't happen to remember what kind of nose spray the doctor gave you?
I feel pretty sure this boils down to some kind of electrolyte imbalance, in my case. I don't know why my body can't keep the electrolyes in balance anymore. I used to run miles and miles without such a problem. But now I can barely powerwalk without things worsening. As soon as I work out hard they get a thousand times worse.
I have tried massive amounts of magnesium oil all over my body. It helps as well but not completely. I need to combine this with too high of a dose oral magnesium in order to sleep. And then I get (I hate the word) diarrhea from such a high dose of magnesium and feel exhausted from that instead...
Please Ted, if you read this, help!!!
I am going to try potassium citrate to see if that helps.
I'm waiting to buy a new juicer (mine broke). Looking back, it seemed as if juicing dark greens, especially cellery, every day put an end to this torture. It literally destroys my life."
03/25/2012: Megan from Arlington Hts, Il replies: "I am going through the SAME EXACT thing right now. I am 19 weeks prego and thought my electrlytes were off, just got them tested about two weeks ago and then seem normal. My mag seemed a little low. I've been supplementing calcium/mag for about two weeks. It has helped some. I also take arestless legs at night and that helped but something was truly OFF last night as I was up till 2 am with the all over body jerks. I even ate a banana at 1am thinking it was my potassium? I just read on another forum that l-glutamine could cause nurological issues and i've been taking 4,500 mgs of l-glut for about a month. OP are you taking L-glutaamine too? I'm going to lay off the l-glut for a bit and see if the problem gets better although to be honest I thought the problem had gotten better, last night migth have just been a WEIRD glitch??? I also consumed gluten last night , just two crackers and some brie cheese , a very small amount and the day before pizza. I have been OFF gluten since november because of my hashimotos. I wonder if the gluten is doing something??? I'm going to try the epsom bath salt. I'm desperate."
03/25/2012: Steve from Las Vegas, Nevada replies: "You could be having some adrenal fatigue which releases high levels of cortisol at night. This will often give you the jerking/twitching at night just as your about to fall asleep. It is often caused by high stress levels over a long period of time. Consider taking adaptogenic herbs, ashwaganda, rhodiola, or astragulus, they lower cortisol levels, check with your health care provider on this. Consider an even less invasive approach like EFT emotional freedom techniques or other energy healing modalites which reduces stress levels."
07/14/2012: Tina from Manila, Philippines replies: "Hi Maria. I too have this hypnik jerks for several mos. Now. I read from a diff web site that someone just like you was prescribed of the same medicine and since then experienced jerks. He recommended mixing 1/2 teaspoon baking soda to a half glass of water and take it minutes before going to sleep. I tried it just tonight but it didnt work for me. I just thought that bec you too had the same cause for your jerks, it might work for you too. As for me, I'll try Steve's suggestion. I have hypothyroidism and they said that it can cause high cortisol. I'll try to take some adaptogens. Hope thiz works."
07/21/2012: Tina from Manila, Philippines replies: "Hi Maria. I did what Steve suggested and after 1wk I was able t o sleep without experiencing any jerks. I chose to take ashwagandha. It was not an instant cure. But on my first few days of taking it I still wake up of the jerks but able to go back to sleep. I would also suggest that you have your thyroid checked. I have hypothyroidism and as a result of many yrs of not treating it I had magnesium deficiency, low ferritin and adrenal fatigue. Bec of this I started taking ferrous sulfate and lots of magnesium. The last I tried was an adaptogen called ashwagandha. I dont know if its a coincidence but this is also the first day that I change my thyro med from levothyroxine to natural thyroid called thyroid-s. Hope this helps you. Thanks also Steve. You dont know how much you have helped. May God bless you."
09/17/2012: Amanda from Nsw, Australia replies: "How many people still suffering from hypnic jerks use benadryl or other diphenhydramine? This acts as sodium channel blocker which can interupt proper muscle function. If you have tried earthclinic remedies and still suffer these horrible twitches, please try stopping intake diphenhydramine, then try the remedies.
I was suffering from regular sleep-maintenance insomnia, and after a few days of using benadryl as a result I started getting these jerks, sometimes when falling asleep for the first time, sometimes all night long leaving no sleep at all. I stopped taking benadryl for a week to take it easy on my liver and I noticed the twitches were lessened. Then the other night I woke up with a bad runny nose and used benadryl to clear it up, well, I started having the twitches again really bad 20 minutes after taking it, I assume it had not been fully detoxed from my system yet.
If you try this please give it some time to work. I found I was still getting twitches after a week but their severity had lessened significantly (to the point where I could actually fall asleep). I still suffer from sleep maintenance insomnia but the twitches are getting less and less with absense of diphenhydramine."
09/17/2012: Little Wing from Marshfield, Ma replies: "I find benadryl makes my restless legs MUCH worse, as does anything like this or any of the PM medicines (Excedrin PM, Advil PM, etc.)."
09/18/2012: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "I have found this to be true, also. NyQuil always was a problem and kept my up all night, but as I have gotten older, Benedryl and other such OTC drugs that you mention, now cause me to be drowsy but completely unable to sleep with increased RLS symptoms."
09/19/2012: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "Not eating MSG stopped my leg jerks. When I eat MSG, the twitching starts again. I have been avoiding it for several weeks now and my legs have been quiet."
09/19/2012: Jb from Everytown, Usa replies: "Potassium. Get it from coconut water, bananas, spuds (all varieties), some tomato juices, and most vegetables. Do not waste your time or money on potassium supplements, they are typically a very, very low dose, not to mention unnatural and potentially dangerous. Also your high dose of magnesium supplementation is hard on the digestive pipes and unbalances (or displaces) some other minerals. It's always best to supplement with food whenever possible (not talking about disgusting "energy" drinks). Ya gotta eat anyway, right? Discover which REAL foods are high in minerals (mostly fresh produce and carnivorous fare) and eat well. Sweet dreams."
09/29/2012: Amanda from Tweed Heads, Nsw replies: "Thank you so much for that post Citygirl, I think my problem may be related to MSG too. It's definitely worse on nights when I've had Chinese or take out food that day. Unfortunately it's in just about everything and my friends and family already think I'm a hypochondriac, I wish they would understand what it's like to have your whole body jerk awake and to be told it's all in your head."
09/30/2012: Ab from Chicago, Il replies: "I find that holding my breath for as long I can, continuously, helps me to fall asleep when suffering from hypnic jerks. It can be uncomfortable doing this, but I usually knock out after 15 or 20 minutes. Another thing that helps me get past hypnic jerks is sex."
10/14/2012: Tlac from Sleepless Not In Seattle. replies: "I'm reading this thread and sending out the best of luck to everyone. I've had this problem for 13 years, without resolution. I have literally tried everything I can think to help. I've been to several doctors and sleep clinics and prescribed loads of medications. The only med that helps is Klonopin, but I would rather find the source of this issue. I agree that it has something to do with electrolytes, in my case. It's much worse after working out, or sweating. I'm at a point where I'm just not going to be able to work. It's pure torture.
Hang in there, everyone. Let's find out something to do about this. If anyone has any ideas, please post them. I'm pretty desperate, at this point."
05/10/2011: Julia from Toronto, On: "The major cause of insomnia is the hypoglycemic syndrome. Going on a Hypoglycemic Diet will often resolve the problem.
The Biochemistry of Insomnia at:
Sleep Maintenance Insomnia and Sleep Onset Insomnia
Ignatia Amara (Homeopathic Remedy)
[YEA] 10/18/2013: Sean from Ca, Usa: "Hello, I've been taking Ignatia Amara when I wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep (racing thoughts and anxiety).... It seems to work but is it Ok to take it every night long term??? Thank you for your feedback!"
[YEA] 04/04/2010: Allmymarbles from New York City, New York: "For 30 years I suffered from ever-worsening insomnia. The cause was never found, but it was suggested slyly that I was neurotic. Ultimately I developed short-term memory loss and my exhaustion was profound.
One winter I developed a craving for clams and could not seem to get enough of them. I noticed that occasionally I had short periods of normal sleep. Then it hit me - iodine! I had myself tested for hypothyroidism. The result was positive. And I was furious. I never got help from the medical profession, lived for years as a zombie, and had to find the cure all by myself! Thanks to potassium iodide I sleep just fine. Although I started at a higher dosage, I currently take only four drops of 5 per cent solution a week. Now if I could get a refund of all the money I wasted on doctors who resorted to facile psychology instead of medicine . . . ."
04/05/2010: Flying Frog from Grass Valley, Ca, Usa replies: "Hello! I want to suggest you look into/try kelp tablets for your hypothyroidism--I prefer it to other sources of iodine because, of course, kelp is "found in nature" & contains many nutrients in a form that I feel is more compatible with the body than a synthesized form. Peace!"
04/05/2010: Janice from Coloma, Mi replies: "Flying Frog...How much Kelp do you take a day? Do you take it every day? Thanks"
04/07/2010: Kelp from Louisville, Kentucky replies: "I'm currently using kelp, two teaspoons twice a day, I saw the post about potassium iodide and found it interesting because I just ordered some potassium iodide. I'll keep your post in mind in terms of the number of drops that you started with. The kelp hasn't helped with sleep so far, iodide is much stronger so that may be the issue. Another consideration is that there are various types of kelp, bladderwheck is the strongest, so that one may work. I've only taken it once so far, was using dulse, and I noticed the difference, it certainly is stronger!"
[SIDE EFFECTS] 02/16/2011: Jp from Ottawa, Ontario replies: "Don't take your iodine late in the day, as that can worsen sleep.
If you use kelp you 1) don't get a lot of iodine and 2) may be getting heavy metals along with it. Check your source
Lugol's or Iodoral are sources of both Iodine and Potassium iodide, both forms of iodine that the body uses. You can make Lugol's yourself. Iodoral is the same proportions in tablet form."
[YEA] 01/26/2012: Mamallama from Deerfield, Ma replies: "I agree, iodine has helped my insomnia. I would have to take 2-3 mg melatonin every night and hated feeling dependent. I have been taking Lugol's for 5 days now (started with 2 drops of the 2% solution and have increased to 4) and I see an improvement. I have been able to decrease the melatonin to 1.5 mg and I feel pretty confident that I'll be able to eliminate the melatonin entirely! Even when I was woken in the night (something that would have me up for hours, normally), I was able to fall back asleep within 10 minutes or so.
BTW, I take the iodine in the morning, in cranberry juice.
I have had other positive effects with the iodine but will post about them after I've been using it for a couple of weeks."
01/27/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Hi, I have just ordered Lugol's (5% iodine, 7% potassium iodide) because I am quite sure that I am iodine deficient. As you can't buy it anywhere in Europe I ordered it online. It is Hulda Clarks recipe and I have no idea how many drops to take. I saw the label on the site and it says one should take 6 drops a day, max. 3 days. This sounds like nonsense to me.... The lady selling it told me that in Hulda's book she advises 6 drops 4x a day for up to a week for stomach bacterial infections. All very confusing...... Dr. Brownstein says in his book that 1 drop of Lugol's 5% iodine and 10% potassium iodide amounts to 12,5mg. I think that the fact that Lugol's can come in so many combinations makes it very difficult to know how much to take. Right now I am at a loss so if anyone can help I would very much appreciate!
As far as insomnia goes I also hope that Lugol's will help me. Please keep us informed of any other changes you notice, I will do the same. I will be taking Lugol's for the insomnia, falling, weak hair, puffy eyes, dry skin..... By the way, I thought that Melatonin was a great thing after reading a book about it. It is not sold here in Europe so it is not something I can try!"
01/27/2012: Lisa from Rabat, Morocco replies: "Francisca, one drop of Lugol's (5% iodine, 10% iodide) is 6. 25 mg. There isn't really a set amount to take, it all depends on the person. I think it is generally believed that a maintenance dosage is 50 mg. Many people take more depending on what illnesses they may have. It might be best to start out slow and gradually increase your dose since many people can have detox symptoms. I have been taking Iodoral (pill form of Lugol's) since last March and I am up to 62. 5 mg. I have some thyroid issues and uterine fibroids along with sluggish adrenal glands. It is also recommended that you supplement iodine with Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt (like Celtic). I think it is best to take it all at one time early in the day since taking it too late can cause sleep problems in some.
If you want to get some really good information I would suggest joining the iodine Yahoo group. The moderators are very knowledgeable and have lots of experience using iodine. The group owner had thyroid cancer and used very large doses of iodine to help cure herself."
01/27/2012: Eva from A'dam, Nl replies: "Francesca, you can relatively easily buy iodine in Europe, just need to google it while entering the right keywords. By the way, Melatonin is sold in drugstores in the vitamin section, I did not enter a store yet where it was not sold and I have also seen it in several countries. I am not sure if you live at a really small place, or you don't look at the right place, but I would be more careful with generalizations about what you can and can't find in such a large area as Europe."
01/28/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Eva, I do live in a small town now but I used to live in France near Switzerland and Germany. I looked everywhere but I never found any melatonin, they told me that it wasn't allowed in the EU, only melatonin percursors. I am not sure but I think that I also asked in De Tuinen when I was in Holland last year. I am going to the UK next week and I can try again in a very good health food store where I mostly go to."
01/28/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Lisa, now I feel even more hopeless... You say that one drop is 6,25 mg, Dr. Brownstein says it is 12,5mg.... I will try to find that Yahoo group and maybe I just start with one drop. I am taking vit. C, 1000mg a day, am using magnesium chloride transdermally (dilute myself in water) and will buy some selenium soon (I do eat walnuts most day as I picket a lot during the Autumn). I also take a bit of Celtic Salt now and then, apart from what I take in my food!"
01/28/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Thanks Timh, yes, melatonin percursor are allowed here. I tried one but it didn't really have any effect. I am not waiting to go the the UK next week and pick up the Lugol's I ordered on the Internet at my sister-in-law's. Actually my biggest problem is my husband's snoring. Once he wakes me up I have trouble going back to sleep and by now I am not used to sleeping all night anymore. When he leaves early in the morning I often sleep like I am in a coma just then I wake up too late and have difficulty sleeping in the evening again! "
01/28/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Francisca, if Melatonin is on the EU ban list, try 5 Hydroxytryptophan (5HTP) before retiring as it stimulates the penial gland to secrete melatonin. If 5HTP is not available try regular L-Tryptophan or foods high in T like Turkey."
01/29/2012: Linda from New Haven, Connecticut replies: "Mamallama, from all that I have read, Vitamin C (which is in your juice) is not to be taken at the same time as Lugol's. Lugol's is comprised of iodine and iodide and the Vitamin C will convert the iodine to iodide. For this reason I always take my Lugol's in water & wait at least an hour or more before I eat or take my suppliments (including my Vitamin C). Hope this helps.
"Let's go through the titration process with a specific example: the titration of vitamin C by iodine. The chemical name for vitamin C is ascorbic acid. When Iodine and ascorbic acid are combined in solution, a chemical reaction takes place. In this chemical reaction, the ascorbic acid molecule loses electrons, which are transferred to the iodine molecule. Chemists call this type of reaction an oxidation/reduction reaction (or redox reaction for short). The ascorbic acid is oxidized to dehydroascorbic acid, and the iodine is reduced to Iodide ions. Oxidation-reduction reactions always occur in pairs like this. The molecule that loses electrons is oxidized, and the molecule that accepts the electrons is reduced."
We need ioDINE AND ioDIDE:
From "Iodine, Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It":
"It was thought that the intestinal tract could easily convert iodine to iodide, but research has shown this is not true. Different tissues of the body respond to different forms of iodine. The thyroid gland primarily utilizes ioDIDE.... the breasts, on the other hand, primarily utilize ioDINE....
Because different tissues concentrate different forms of iodine, using a supplement that contains both iodine and iodide is preferable to using a supplement that contains only one form, As mentioned above, the breasts concentrate iodine. The prostate gland concentrates iodine. The thyroid gland and the skin primarily concentrate iodide. Other tissues, including the kidneys, spleen, liver, blood, salivary glands and intestines can concentrate either form. With different tissues responding to different forms of iodine, it would make common sense that a greater therapeutic benefit from iodine will be achieved by using a COMBINATION OF IODINE AND IODIDE. My clinical experience has proven, beyond a doubt, that a combination of IODINE/IODIDE (e. G. , Lugol's or Iodoral) is much more effective than an iodide only supplement (e. G. , SSKI and most other liquid iodide formulations).""
01/29/2012: Linda from New Haven, Connecticut replies: "Francisca, I am taking the same strength as you, although I bought mine from J. Crows. I began with 1 drop a day (which is 6. 25 mg) and worked up to 8 drops a day (which is 50 mg) as Dr Brownstein reccommends. I'll continue with that dose for 2-3 months and then taper down to a daily maintaence dose of 2 drops a day (12. 5 mg) for life as recommended.
Just be sure to take it on an empty stomach and wait an hour or so before before eating or taking any supplements (read my post earlier in this thread).
01/30/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Thanks Linda, I will pick it up on Friday evening so will start on Saturday morning. Funny enough I can't find the instructions of how to take it in Dr. Brownsteins book. Are you sure that one should take it one hour before eating? I hope that it can be done during the day or else I will have to wait for 1 hour before having breakfast, which is not always possible! I underline the books I read in order to find anything of importance more easily but I couldn't find that information...."
02/09/2012: Linda from San Francisco, Ca, Usa replies: "To Francisca from Zug,
The number of milligrams per drop can differ very widely dependent upon the size of the dropper used, and additionally the exact mg amount will differ dependent upon whether the drop is released from a dropper held exactly vertically, or from a dropper which is slanted sideways at the time the drop is released. So it is a ballpark, but not precise to talk about how many drops = 1 milligram, etc.
Exact precision with Lugol's 5% (that's what I have) is not usually critical, unless there is some special case-specific medical circumstance. Lugol's has been in extensive use in the USA for more than 100 years. Its use and effects are well-documented and easily findable on the web.
Dr. Brownstein is a good source of info on this. Also there is an Iodine Supplementation forum (VWT Forum) on Curezone where many knowledgeable folks have posted their own experiences with it for several years.
I have taken from 1 drop per day to more than 15 with a standard-sized eyedropper orally off and on for months at a time, for probably 12 years now. So IMHO not necessary to stress about a milligram difference here and there. Just always start with less and err on the side of caution, and work up very slowly. I would not take it without having food in my stomach *first*.
If I am uncertain about its effects, I can paint it on my skin.
02/10/2012: Linda from San Francisco, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Francisca, I think you're way safer ingesting it with food and water, than off by itself. Iodine is some pretty strong stuff. I like to have a buffer around it, just the same as when I take Cayenne Pepper. Just because you can get it past your teeth and down the hatch doesn't mean it won't burn something else. Those are tender little mucous membranes down there.
I take 5-8 drops of Lugol's every morning, I just drip it into the last half-inch of coffee in the bottom of my coffee cup and slug it down during breakfast :-).
I also drop it into Orange Juice if I'm not having coffee that day :-).
I like strong tastes to wipe out the chemical flavor of Iodine.
I think about it this way: after Iodine was removed from bread is when more people began to be deficient in it. So it works when baked into bread. Nobody ingests bread without eating :-).
Don't stress over the timing too much.
09/19/2012: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "Kelp tablets are not efficient. You need to take 5-10 of them to get a single gram of iodine. I recommend Lugols, and increased seafood consumption. For those outside of the US, you may be able to buy iodine tabs in higher doses. I know iodoral is available some places."
Kakao (Raw Chocolate)
[YEA] 02/12/2008: Gabi from TORONTO, CANADA: "Insomnia remedy. Hi all Insomniacs! I discovered my remedy a few years ago by accident. I just turned vegan and was looking for something raw to sweeten up my food and desserts. It is KAKAO (cacao). Raw Chocolate nibs. You will find them in health food store. Take 1-2 teaspoon in the evening and chew it. I put mine in a coffee grinder.God, how well I sleep! I am not insomniac but used to have sleepless nights time to time and my friend with sleeping problems is already on it and sends me his blessings every morning so I hope it will help you also. Don't ask me if there is caffeine. I don;t know.It works. I use it when my schedule is craze and I sleep 2-4 hr every night and this is going for months sometimes.Being "on cacao" I fall in a sleep in seconds and wake up well rested. I just feel in the morning like a baby again! Please send me email if it works for you."Replies
08/25/2009: Susan from Vancouver, Canada replies: "Yes, I started using cacao (Cocoa) in the powder form. It is very healthy. I have researched it on the internet and it has the most flavanoids (immune booster) of any food. As well it is a pure protein. Do not mix with dairy as they block many of these nutrients."
[YEA] 04/21/2012: Jennifer from Sunrise, Fl replies: "Cacao is rich in magnesium, which helps to promote sleep. That is why some people also have relief from insomnia from taking magnesium orally or taking epsom salt baths. :)"
[YEA] 10/18/2012: Gina from Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada: "I've been plagued with insomnia for a very long time and had a little success with melatonin and 5-HTP.
However, after reading a book on controlling low blood sugar, I found a total insomnia cure. Simply have about 3/4 cup of plain yogurt or Kefir immediately before going to bed, and anytime you wake up at night. You will fall asleep easily, quickly, soundly. It's important that it's plain yogurt (either cow or goat) NOT soy, NO additives, NO fruit, and NOT just milk (all of these have natural or added sugars or lactose which will wreak havoc on your pancreas and defeat the purpose) Plain yogurt and kefir are essenitally free of lactose (milk sugar) because the probiotic bacteria have already digested this substance. Goat and Cow yogurt are both high in tryptophan , a natural precurosor to melatonin, htp, and seratonin, which are the chemicals your brain produces to cue your body to relax and sleep.
I incidentally cured my reflux with this, too. Even though you are told Not to eat at bedtime if you have reflux (gerd), I think the probiotics in my kefir snacks actually healed the lower esophogeal sphincter ( which controls the reflux)"
[YEA] 02/26/2006: Victoria from Florence, KY: "I tried L-Glutamine after complete colon cleanse and Candida treatment called ThreeLac. Insomnia was one of the symptoms that surprisingly disappeared. While L-Glutamine is an amino acid, and supports the body in many ways, I learned through this experience (and the guidance of a very good Holistic Chiropractor) that when this amino acid is first introduced into the body, the colon just loves it, and sucks it up. As the mucous membranes of the colon are regenerated, insomnia is one of the symptoms that fall to the wayside. I did use the L-Glutamine after a round of the candida treatment, which irradicates an overgrowth of Candida and helps to balance the pH levels of the colon and body. There is also product called HGH at night, which is rich in L-Glutamine, but this is not the original source that I took. I originally took a powder form, about 1,500 mcg. daily, first thing in the morning, as it is loaded with protein and jump starts the metabolism."Replies
12/06/2009: Wydo from Ventura, Ca replies: "I have a question for Victoria. I am very interested in the HGH at night product but I cannot find it sold anywhere. If you still have a bottle could you please post the ingredients here?
I have tried everything just about to help me get to sleep. I have just started taking GABA and it helps me get a better sleep but does not help me to get to sleep. A lot of suplements help at first but over time quit working so I cannot rate the GABA just yet. I do think you must be right about having a good bowel movement helping to make a better sleep at night. I notice when I have a good early bowel movement I can get to sleep better at night. I also have IBS so I want to work on that as well."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 02/13/2013: Pam from Sacramento, Ca Us: "I am a diabetic and have tried L-Tryptophan for sleep. It works great for sleep but it raises my blood sugar. I searched for articles regarding this and found many that stated tryptophan can cause a rise in blood sugar levels. I had excellent control of blood sugar levels and started taking tryptophan. Everytime I took this supplement at night my blood sugar would be high in the morning. When I quit taking it, no problem. Such a bummer too, because the tryptophan helped me get a good night sleep without prescription sleeping meds. I am going to try GABA now and see how that works."
[YEA] 12/07/2008: Hope from Sacramento, CA: "I have had insomnia for a good 10 or more years. I have tried everything and then read a book called The Mood Cure wherein I found the answer to my problems. Because I do not do well with 5HTP, I started using L-Tryptophan. I take 1500 mg each night before retiring - I open the capsules and mix them with a small amount of rice milk and shake well before drinking. I now sleep a good 7-8 hours straight through and awake feeling exceptionally refreshed and energetic!"
[YEA] 01/03/2011: Saffordshire Born And Bred from Burntwood, Staffs, England: "I have heard and read about people on the net that cannot get to sleep, they don't want to go down the tablet route and ask advice? For years now I have used Lavendar Oil. It's safe and none addictive. Just a couple of drops on your pillow and you will get a good nights sleep. Regards"Replies
[NAY] 05/09/2013: Trudyg from Anon replies: "Not me, I was up all night thinking of how bad the smell was. Tried again after a week, put some on a cotton ball, same thing. Moved it farther away so no smell, but still no sleep."
[YEA] 02/21/2014: Terry from Hemet, California U.S.: "I was having a heck of a time getting sleep! I would toss and turn most of the night and I was very tired by morning. I have heard so many people that are now senior citizens claim that they can't sleep? So I know that I am not alone with this frustrating problem.
I learned this from my husband as he loves to read about health issues.
He told me to try this for insomnia:
1. Fill a pitcher or container full of clean water.
2. Take a fresh lemon and slice it across in a few slices.
3. Place the slices of lemon in the water and allow this to sit for awhile.
4. Throughout the day drink a few glasses for this lemon/water. I try to drink at least 5 or 6 glasses of the lemon water.
This helps me sleep like a baby! Don't give up if it doesn't work for a few days. Keep drinking this solution.
What the lemons do is Alkaline the water! My husband read that our drinking water is too acidity. He read that this solution is similar to using baking soda. This has helped me so much in getting sleep.
I hope it works for those with insomnia. It works for my husband, my sister in law, and it works for me!
Once more thing if you use sugar in this water the sugar will only make the water acid again. Please do not use sugar in it."
08/02/2013: Trudy from Va: "Does anyone know if light therapy works? If so, what kind of thing are you looking for when shopping for a light box? I'm still searching for a solution to my chronic insomnia. I go to bed fairly early, but don't fall asleep. If I stay up later, I don't fall asleep. When I do sleep, I sleep in snatches of 15-20 minutes and wake up. I actually sleep better on the couch with the tv on--the show occupies my mind and stifles the chatter. After an hour or so of this, I can usually get up and go to bed. Even then, if I do go back to sleep, I'm only sleeping for short periods of time before waking. I leave the house for work at 6 a.m. , so I can't try going to bed at what most think of as bedtime. Also, I get up at 4 to feed the livestock (so I get early morning sun/light) and get ready for work, so what's early for you may be late for me."Replies
08/02/2013: Steve from Nevada replies: "Not sure if light therapy would help with insomnia. I think a sleep formula might be more helpful."
08/03/2013: Innanalives from Middletown, Delaware replies: "Poppy oil capsules work very well for chronic insomnia. Dreams are life-like and you wake up feeling refreshed. Please be advised that blue lights from appliances can cause insomnia..."
08/04/2013: Trudy from Va replies: "I have tried everything (sleep formula) that has been suggested on earth clinic. That's why I'm asking about the light therapy. I've tried sounds, herbs, finger-dcounting, pillow method, mag oil---the only thing I've seen so far that I haven't tried is what someone just suggested--poppy oil capsules. Never heard of that one. Will get some and try it. I need relief. The onlyh sleep I get is with ambien, and it's not restorative. Other than that when I take an imitrex and hydrocodone for chronic migraine. Thank everyone for the suggestions, I jsut wish I'd get something new to try as nothing has worked and ted has not responded. I think I have something very basic going on that has not been addressed, but can't think of what. I have never been a good sleeper and have always had ibs-D (over 50 years)."
08/04/2013: Mike Giller from Denver, Colorado replies: "Dear Trudy, eating cooked improperly processed food from big agra is causing the glands to produce a harmfull substance called cortisol. This is causing insomnia and migraines. The cells of the glands are not being nourished, free radicals are damaging the dna, and toxins are poisoning the tissues. Raw vegan 80/10/10 is an effective strategy. You can watch their videos on youtube for inspiration. The program is time consuming and costs 1 cent per calorie. I am a poor man and not able to afford that. Fortunately there is an easy and affordable solution. For carbs take as much as you want of 1/2 raw honey and 1/2 sun dried whole organic cane juice called rapadura or sucanet. For oil take 1 tsp. Flax oil and 1 tsp. Coconut oil together at the same time 4 times a day. For protein, vitamins, minerals, growth factors, and phytochemicals take the super foods raw whey, absorbable colostrum, hawaiin spirulina, korean chlorella, raw cocoa, and nondefatted dessicated liver. For vitamin c and bioflavanoids take 3 grams of freeze dried acerola cherry powder. Non gmo aka red miso can be purchased at the asian grocery store 1 kg. for $6. They also have bean sprouts for $1 a lb. For a, d, k2, and shark cartilage take 1ml. of raw fermented skate liver oil 2 times per day. The superfoods can be purchased on the internet in bulk for wholesale prices. Take 1 cup of water every hour. While waiting for the superfoods to arrive, make green smoothies from organic baby leaves and organic parsley. Take eggs from pastured hens raw. Eat rare hamburger from grass fed cattle. Take these frequently. Take as much as you can afford. You can tell me the results after beginning the program."
08/05/2013: Trudy from Va replies: "My question was 'does light therapy work'. Thank you for your reply, but I am not willing to go vegan. I have free range, pastured hens for eggs. I grow a garden. I buy a side of pastured, grass fed beef for my freezer. Yes, I'm sure I eat gmo food--it's near impossible not to, but I do my best to avoid it. My diet is very good--home-grown foods for the vast majority. Also, one cup of coffee in the morning then only water. I can't be outside b/c I work, so that's my question--do light boxed help with insomnia?"
08/05/2013: Mike Giller from Denver, Colorado replies: "Dear Trudy, thank you for the reply. I eat raw grass fed liver and raw eggs from pastured hens. There are many important nutrients that are denatured through cooking. Light therapy won't cure a nutritional deficiency. I believe the problems are caused by a nutritional deficiency. I could be wrong. I have been wrong before. Most of the time I am wrong. You could try eating the beef rare and the eggs raw. Eskimos who live traditionally like their hunter gatherer ancestors eat mostly raw and rare wild meat and fat. A leopard eats an antelope raw. A racoon who steals a duck egg eats that raw. We are the only animals who cook food. You might try making smoothies from the green leaves from the garden. The nutrients are locked up in the cellulose. Grinding up the green leaves in the blender releases the nutrients from the cellulose and makes them available to the cells. I take hawaiin spirulina and korean chlorella insteak of raw green organic leaves because they are more cost effective and less time consuming. Herbavores all over the world eat greens that have chlorophyll. The longest lived animal on the planet is an eighty ton whale who eats mostly plankton and some tiny sea creatures raw. Thanks for the reply. Please reply again. Thank you."
08/05/2013: Mt from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada replies: "Due to IBS you may have a vitamin/ mineral imbalance. See this link for deficiencies in Vitamins B: http://www.longevinst.org/nlt/newsletter19.htm. You should get a book describing the vitamins and minerals required by the body.
If you do not have enough sun exposure, you may be vitamin D deficient.
For IBS you should try to eat green bananas -the starch from these bananas can heal the intestines. Do you eat raw garlic/ onion? Do you avoid gluten? Do you drink spring water?
Read about calamus roots-it is a good way to heal the digestive system."
08/06/2013: Amy from Colorado replies: "Yes, light therapy can help but you have to be careful because there are all sorts of light therapy and some can be pretty startling. I would look for they light therapy that uses a moving bed along with gradually using all spectrums of light. Some light therapy abruptly flashes light and can be very startling and more harmful than good. There is a great place in Niwot, CO.
The other thing you may want to try is healthy probiotics. If you have taken antibiotics or eaten a bunch of meat with antibiotics, this can cause a lack of healthy enzymes in your stomach which can cause problems with sleep. It could have been a long time ago that you consumed the antibiotics, but if you never replaced them with healthy antibiotics, it can still be a huge problem You want to get the best possible probiotics you can, because if you only take mediocre ones, that will not help. I took 2 at least 20 minutes before I ate in the morning and 2 at least 20 minutes after I ate before I went to sleep and within 3 doses, I slept great. I finished a bottle of 90 and was fine for a while."
[YEA] 09/22/2013: Wendy from Westport, Ct: "I have been suffering from insomnia which really kicked in this summer. I think it is perimenopausal or hormonally based insomnia. The one remedy that has worked beautifully for me has been magnesium. I take 1 teaspoon of magnesium powder (the kind that dissolves in water) just before going to sleep and having been sleeping through the night. What a miracle it has been! If I wake up and need to use the bathroom, getting back to sleep takes only minutes. I tried taking magnesium earlier in the day and it didn't have the same effect. Taking it just before going to sleep is the perfect time.
Before I took magnesium, I would wake up at the slightest sound and then be awake for 2-3 hours.
I started at 1/2 teaspoon of magnesium poweder in 1/2 glass of warm water and have slowly worked my way up to 1 teaspoon because of the loose stools effect. I did get a series of stomach aches and a few rounds of diarrhea when I started taking magnesium but now I can tolerate larger and larger doses. It did take a few weeks to go from 1/2 teaspoon to 1 teaspoon."Replies
09/24/2013: Tom from Fort Worth, Texas replies: "Wendy: Thank you for that great post on the use of magnesium and insomnia. I have insomnia problems that herbals haven't seemed to help. (Worry about work I think.) But I'll try the mag at night as you recommended."
09/25/2013: Toourlady89@aol.com from Hayward, Ca replies: "There several forms of Magnesium. One of the most absorbable would be Mg Glycinate capsules, it does not have the laxative side effect."
10/01/2013: Wendy from Westport, Ct replies: "Thanks Tourlady89, I will try Mag Glycinate. Would be nice not to experience side effects from Magnesium! I have also recently tried magnesium oil but waiting around for the oil to absorb into the skin for 20 minutes isn't much fun!"
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 05/20/2013: Carmela from Cambridge, Ma: "I have an issue at night where if I wake up to go to the bathroom, I can't get back to sleep for exactly two hours, no matter what. Yes, 2 hours. I have timed it! I finally found something that works: Magnesium citrate. If I take a teaspoon at night, I can get up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and get back to sleep almost immediately. The side effect of powdered magnesium is intense gas and stomach pain, which I have had on several occasions. However, the gas passes about 30 minutes after taking the magnesium. There is probably a "best" time to take magnesium, but I haven't figured it out yet. Sometimes I get stomach pain and sometimes I don't.
I tried Epsom salt foot bath a few nights ago (1 cup of ES in hot water and soaked my feet for an hour) and it relaxed me somewhat, but I didn't get the same deep state of relaxation the internal magnesium provides. I will next try magnesium chloride oil foot baths and report back. Hope this helps someone."
[YEA] 10/24/2010: Maria De Suecia from London, United Kingdom: "Oh my god! I have suffered ruthless episodes of insomnia the last 6 years. This has destroyed my life. As a result I had to withdraw from my PhD program, for example. I simply would not be able to sleep at all, for months at a time. Finally a doctor put me on a very sedating antidepressant. It made me sleep but made me drowsy all day and I lost my short term memory. I got off that 2 years ago and have since had poor sleep but I have slept for a few hours. Anyway, 2 weeks ago I got a new episode. I would lay awake for hours and when I finally began to dose off my body would jerk and twitch so I would wake up again. And so it went on the entire night.
Finally I googled "insomnia and twitching" and got thousands of hits saying "magnesium deficiency". One site in particular said "if you suffer from insomnia, body jerks and twitches, chest and back pain and cannot take deep breaths, then you should take magnesium. " So I read thousands of sites and found one particular brand of magnesium that seemed to help the best. I assume I cannot mention the brand here but it's a powder form and you must mix it with hot water. Given the severity of my insomnia I didn't think a mineral would ever do the trick, but what could I loose? So I ordered it as a last resort before going to the doctor to get sleeping pills. I am not kidding you, day 1 was better, day 2 even better and since day 3 I have slept like a rock for 8.5 hours straight. My chest and back pain are almost gone and I can breath properly.
I have read countless of anecdotes by people discussing insomnia and magnesium. It seems as if absorption is a big problem. Please don't give up if the first attempt doesn't work. Go to the health food store and ask for the brand that has the best absorption. If you do get a good intake of calcium you may be magnesium deficient and may do better on magnesium alone. Otherwise magnesium and calcium is recommended. Personally I take 800 mg/night. Google it! Given my severity of insomnia I am blown away that it all came down to a mineral. WOW!!!"Replies
10/26/2010: Pam from Marlborough, Ct, Usa replies: "Hi, I have had trouble sleeping for quite a while, and also have the twitching problem so bad sometimes that I feel like I want to run around the block. It doesn't happen every night but, I would sure like to sleep like you are I am going to give it a try. Thanks Pam"
01/16/2011: Robert from Chicago, Il replies: "Magnesium that has the best absorption is magnesium citrate. Be sure to always check labels."
01/17/2011: Mike from Montreal, Quebec, Canada replies: "I have found this site for describing food with highest Magnesium content www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/magnesium-foods.htm"
01/17/2011: Mike from Montreal, Quebec, Canada replies: "Maria, your post is exactly what this site is all about!!! I to have suffered from insomnia for many years and would have never guessed that it was magnesium related. That is why this site is so valuable for curing illnesses because it tends to promote the idea that "NATURAL PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST WAY TO CURE ALL MINOR ILLNESS THAT POTENTIALLY CAN LEAD TO IRREPARABLE SERIOUS ILLNESSES IN THE LONG RUN".
Thanks Earth Clinic since this is not the first illness I was able to treat just by reading from the experience of others. Perfect example how Prescription and Over The Counter Drugs once again has no place in the human body! You might Google to find out which food has the highest magnesium content and change your eating habit accordingly. Mike"
01/18/2011: Surulere from Bloomfield, Nj, Usa replies: "Maria, can you kindly email the name of the brand your are using to solve the insomnia issue. Surulere(at)gmail(dot)com"
01/18/2011: Zsaqwe from Brownsville, Texas, Usa replies: "Maria, what you describe is exactly how I had to live for 15 years. I hardly could cope with my two babies with that terrible insomnia. Please tell us what magnesium to take. There is many different magnesium. Which one? I found this info in the web. www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/magnesium-migraines
So just what is the magnesium migraines connection? Researchers have been investigating the magnesium migraines connection because of magnesium's role in stabilizing blood vessels walls. Magnesium is also an important mineral when it comes to helping you get to sleep. Regular sleeping patterns are also very important to migraine sufferers. Magnesium also helps in protein synthesis, and keeps your bones strong and helps maintain normal nerve and muscle function. It was first suggested that a deficiency in magnesium could cause headaches over 70 years ago. It makes sense, because a lot of the things that cause the body to run short of magnesium also either trigger migraines or lower your resistance. For example alcohol, stress, and menstruation. Today we know that about half of the people who get migraines are also short of a certain type of magnesium (serum ionized). When faced with a migraine that won't respond to treatment, many headache specialists will give an injection of magnesium. You should be able to get benefits from long term (2-3 months or more) regular magnesium supplements.
The magnesium migraines link may make a big difference to many people. Certain types of magnesium are not well absorbed by the body. Too much magnesium, particularly the wrong kinds of magnesium, can cause diarrhea and simply make your mineral deficiency worse. Also, remember to take magnesium for at least 60-90 days to see if it makes a difference. If your body isn't absorbing magnesium well, try avoid these types of magnesium: Oxide, hydroxide, and chloride. Instead, look for magnesium types that end in "ate", particularly glycinate, but also gluconate, lactate and orotate.
Note: Very often two or more types of magnesium are combined, such as oxide and citrate. The best thing is to simply talk to your doctor and then try one kind and see how your body handles it. A note about calcium: Magnesium and calcium balance each other out in the body. If you have too much of one and not enough of another, it can cause problems. That's one reason why it's important not to take too much of one or the other. However, when taking magnesium for migraine don't buy a calcium/magnesium blend. If you're taking a calcium supplement, take it at another time of day. It can interfere with the benefits of the magnesium for migraine."
[YEA] 03/24/2011: Maria De Suecia from Stockholm/london, Sweden/uk replies: "Hi, I'm responding to those of you who had a question regarding which magnesium I was taking to treat insomnia. I posted this on 10/24/2010.
Insomnia DESTROYED my life, beginning 6 years ago. I had to drop out of one of the best PhD programs in the world in my field. Sleeping pills didn't even work. I was put on an antidepressant, just for the insomnia, that is normally given to Alzheimers patients in order to sedate and calm them down. It D*E*S*T*R*O*Y*E*D my life. And now look.
First let me sum up, 5 months on after my magnesium discovery, and I still sleep like a rock. But I've discovered an even better magnesium. Let me tell you the exact experience.
I initially began taking a regular pill form of "magnesium carbonate", and it clearly helped a lot but I would still wake up a few times with these awful hypnic jerks. I did this for a few days while I was waiting for my order of this magnesium powder that people rave about on various sites.
I can't reveal the brand name because I think it will be deleted by Earthclinic. I totally respect that since the non-commercial integrity of this site makes it so trustworthy. If I tell you the following, then you'll be able to track it down: this particular brand of magnesium is in "magnesium carbonate" form and was developed by a leading nutritional researcher named Peter Gillham. Now you can google that and find the name of the brand. I'll take a shot at revealing the name as I have found it so helpful and I hope that Earthclinic will post it to help people. It's called: Calm Natural.
I take the magnesium only, but they sell a calcium-magnesium blend as well.
So I got the order of this powder and I had done enough research to know that, unless you have an existing kidney or liver problem, it is pretty much impossible to overdose on magnesium. I was in a state of panic because I did not want this awful insomnia to keep wrecking my life, so the first night I took 1200 mg of this stuff. Fell alseep instantly. Not one hypnic jerk. Nothing. Slept! Slept! Slept! I took this dose every night without getting a loose stool (which is an indication that you take too much). Day 4 I woke up with loose stool. But I didn't flipping care, it's better than taking sleeping pills or not sleeping at all. But at this point I reduced the dose a bit, still slept like a baby.
I kept thinking that it must be too good to be true since sleeping pills had not even worked for my insomnia/hypnic jerks in the past. But oh no, I kept sleeping, adjusting the dose so that I would take just the amount that my stomach could handle - sometimes diarrhea and sometimes not. With time I needed less and less and after a few weeks I could even skip a few nights here and there.
Now to the other big discovery. I tried magnesium oil. EVEN BETTER! Some points on my experience with magnesium oil. 1) I am using a magnesium oil derived from the ancient Zechstein seabed (google it) - many brands of magnesium oil get their oil from this place. It's the gold standard source. 2) Magnsium oil is better since it does not go through your intestine you can apply as much as is needed without getting a loose stool. 3) I began using this in conjunction with drinking the magnesium powder, not risking insomnia. Bloody h***ll, this works wonders! 4) Initially I rubbed this stuff all over my body, 20 minutes before bedtime. One must be prepared that initially it feels as if you have been stung by a swarm of bees, but it gets better with time, believe me, like 4 weeks or so of applying it daily and it will no longer sting. I did this combo for 4 weeks, every single night. After 4 weeks my magnesium levels seemed to have been built up enough so I only needed to rub it on my belly before bedtime. 5) Yes, it's a bit oily, but again, I don't flipping care, I want to sleep after 6 years without sleeping.
So where am I now? I no longer drink the magnesium powder and fall alseep without a problem just by rubbing the magnesium oil on my belly. If I have a feeling that sleep is a bit more rocky I simply rub my entire body with the oil.
One point to be made here is that the magnesium has helped me with the hypnic jerks that prevented me from falling asleep. I would have these hypnic jerks, what felt like, one thousand times per night. They drove me crazy! Now they are GONE! GONE! GONE! 6 years of hell is gone!!! I don't know if magnesium helps with regular insomnia when you just lie awake starring, perhaps calcium in combination with magnesium is a better option then.
In treating my adrenal glands I began taking a high potency (OBSERVE, VERY IMPORTANT: HIGH POTENCY) vitamin B complex, which I noticed made me feel much much calmer in general. I still take that.
There are other minerals and vitamins that can cause insomnia. I read about that somewhere. I remember one of them being Folate."
05/24/2013: Bev from Fort Lauderdale, Fl replies: "Magnesium Oil is NOT oil -- but feels like it. I also hate the itchy feeling of this oil on my skin but I found that if I dilute it about 1/2 and 1/2 with water, there is no discomfort. I usually spray it on right after a shower -- in the shower. I don't apply it to my butt as I usually go and check my email (in the nude) while I'm waiting for it to dry.
Your skin will still feel a little "oily", but it will not stain your clothes."