Hashimoto's ThyroiditisTreatment: Q&A
Last Modified on Mar 04, 2013
- RETURN TO MAIN SECTION
- Thyroid Nodules Causing Hair Loss, Skin Issues
- BILL'S CANDIDA PROTOCOL OK FOR HASHIMOTO'S
- WILL NATURAL REMEDIES WORK SINCE I'M MISSING HALF MY THYROID?
- HOW CAN I HEAL MY BODY SO I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE SYNTHROID FOREVER?
- HASHIMOTO'S AND OTHER ISSUES, POST-PARTUM
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Iodine
- Fctual Info on Iodine Depletion
- Seeking Natural Remedies
- Question for Ted
04/19/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Meg... I would first just take the Full Iodine Protocol with companion nutrients given here for your Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (HT) problems. As well, I would also take 500 mgs tyrosine per day -- this amino acid is necessary to help store the iodide as iodine in the thyroid. There also appears to be some contention whether oral iodine actually helps HT, but from my own readings and study of the most recent and other research, it seems that you must also take Selenium together with oral iodine for the effects to be beneficial for Hashimoto's.
To simply illustrate the reason why this is so necessary, here is the pathway which forms T3 and T4 hormones in the thyroid cells:
Thyroid peroxidase (enzyme) Thyroglobulin ----> Forms T3 and T4 thyroid hormones
But Hydrogen Peroxide is normally also produced in the thyroid cell as a waste metabolite from the above process. Excess HP is normally cleared by another thyroid cell enzyme and anti-oxidant called Glutathione Peroxidase. But if you don't have enough GP then excessive HP builds up in the cell and damages or destroys the thyroid cell by excessive free radical action. This is why nodules and inflamation occurs. Next, the antibodies come along and clear away the damaged thyroid cell -- this is part of their job.
So, formation and proper amounts of Glutathione Peroxidase in the thyroid cell is fairly critical to the health of these thyroid cells and critical for removal of the excess HP. The central metallic metal in GP is Selenium. Selenium is also critical for the conversion of T4 to T3 (more active form). So many of the problems in Hashimoto's seem to directly stem from a Selenium Deficiency as well as a possible iodine deficiency.
So, it would appear that supplementing selenium with oral iodine is fairly critical for anyone suffering from Hashimoto's. See the research here for yourself:
Therefore taking the Full Oral Iodine Protocol with companion nutrients -- which already includes selenium -- will also address and prevent further issues that cause iodine malabsorption in the body.
In case you are worried about the candida -- the oral iodine doses that you take will be more than enough to adequately kill off the candida over time and all you will have to really worry about are the halogen and heavy metal Detox and Herx die-off effects caused by the iodine -- these can be quite severe in people who have eaten western diets all their lives. So work your way up to the full dose slowly.
As well -- you should use the Anti-Candida Diet which would also be quite beneficial for your problems."
05/20/2012: New Faith from Kzoo, Mi replies: "OMG this sounds so like me too. One day out of nowhere I felt heart palpitations and trouble breathing. I went to ER they said panic attack no real labwork was done and I was placed on Ativan. Please read All bad side effects with Ativan... I felt like my life was over it actually produced more hysteria and mania. Well I don't know if the Ativan withdrawl worsened my symptoms but I have always been a bigger person and I admit I love food but before the "panic attack " I began to feel really edgy and I felt colder than normal. Which I have always felt hotter than normal. For about six months prior to ER I had noticed this change, I welcomed it because I always had felt hot and thought it was hot flashes at night so I didn't mind the change. I soon began to feel really nervous and tension crept in. I started Ativan.
Fast forward a month later I'm in total mania and realize Ativan sent me over the edge!! The weight began to drop severely (Thank Goodness I was overweight... Although my physician was pleased with my weight loss she didn't realize I was sweating profusely, had weird high energy, very cold in even I mild weather, and a basket case!!! I too had noticed very dry hair and thinning hair.. I was so sick and then had to deal with Ativan withdrawl... I thought I was dying.. Had to go to ER twice with bad chest palpitations and thing I could not breath. I too got jaw and throat tightness and more muscle tension... All my physician was saying was saying that I should get on an antidepressant since the GD Benzo did not work. NO I could not imagine getting more mind manipulation (EVEN though Some nights I was ready to give in and ask her for one) I was severely in pain and even had to take FMLA from work. SOME nights I thought I would not wake up that's how lethargic and painful I felt.
Well I begin to research on herbs to help with appetite and calming. I begin to drink Chamomille every AM... And then noticed a tea infusion using Chammomille and Lemon Balm. I begin to sleep really well. Then I read that Lemon Balm helps with Graves. After two weeks I begin to sleep better, eat better, even digestion improved. After three weeks I don't feel as cold and my palpitations and tightness and spasms are greatly reduced!!! I don't feel as anxious.. I also take Lisonipril for Hypertension and that does not seem to affect it at all.. Actually they say Lemon Balm helps hypertension too, so it's a win win... I hope it works for you guys I had to post this as I had been in HELL and praise Jesus I'm back... His medicine works best."
I am a 35 year old woman, 128 lbs at 5' 8." I am also 7 months post partum and lactating. Just a few months ago in June my body just gave out. It began with muscle tremors, quivering, and muscle weakness. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Hypothyroid and I think I have Sjogren's Syndrome. Dry eyes and mouth. I started the Specific Carb diet high in protein (GAPS Diet). I started it because I have been on so many antibiotics, I found out that I have leaky Gut and adrenal fatigue and am sure I have Candida. (I am waiting for my stool results). This is the reason I started with the supplements listed above. But now I am scared to take anything.
The only other thing is that after flossing one day I rinsed with hydrogen peroxide and listerine many times. Could this be the cause? Thank you for your time."
10/13/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "I think you take strange things I wouldn't take, such as calcium citrate and zinc mono-methionine. The listerine and flossing covered up the bad metallic taste from too much antibiotic use. Combine that with wheat products, which shrinks the intestinal villi, and you have got an overly toxic body.
Calcium citrate makes Hashimoto hypothyroid much worse, and anything methionine raises the body's homocysteine, which is a recipe for disaster. Hashimoto is the gradual destruction of the thyroid gland brought on by a virus or h. pylori or both, which eats thyroid up.
What I would do is I will take 1/4 teaspoon lysine and 1/4 teaspoon threonine every hour for 4 hours in morning and every hour for 4 hours in the evening for 5 days, then I might lower the dose, in addition methionine is one of the worst amino acids after excitotoxins, such as aspartame, but zinc is not the remedy now, it is iodine foot painting. That would be reasonable, as Hashimoto's is due in part to iodine deficiency. And NO calcium. It should be seaweed or wakame first, which contains iodine.
Acidity in the mouth maybe high so avoid all wheat products, the body can't handle that. Wheat is a relatively recent phenomenon in agriculture when they phase out the traditional millet in 1950s, and when iodine bleaching was phased out in the 1970s for bromine process. Coconut oil used for cooking would be more ideal, and for oils for nutrition, hemp oil unheated, 1/2 teaspoon every other day would be a reasonable one.
Selenium, chromium and chlorophyll (copper chlorophyllin), and chlorella would be more suitable supplements along with magnesium citrate or magnesium chloride. Doctor's probably recommended (I could be wrong) minocycline or olmarsartan, and it damages the nerves for immune system, and it's likely from the antibiotic used, only the listerine covered it up.
To get metallic taste out, is to alkalize, such as baking soda after meals, and resolve the constipation, which prevents the body from detoxing. If there isn't enough sweating, the body doesn't detox enough. This can be helped with wet bentonite clay applied on the skin, and fan dry it, rinse and repeat 3 times to get some out.
The other thing is people with detoxing problems don't get their nutrients from the intestines (it's so messed up) such that applying magnesium chloride to the skin actually works better and also lugol's iodine would work better. These days, people avoid good things such as real butter and eat bad things such as wheat products, and take on acid forming foods, and the viruses and bacteria which eats up remains untouched, especially the Epstein Barr Virus which causes Chronic Fatigue, and iodine subclinical deficiency is about 90% in U.S.
The dryness of glandular functions characteristic of Sjogren's syndrome, is mostly helped with lysine and threonine, it takes (from my experience of those who had that) about one week of taking this to resolve. As there are many other diets all over the world, it may or may not work for you, but worth the try as it is a natural amino acid. And also getting the urine pH up to 6.5 to 7.0 and saliva pH (is harder) but is helped with potassium citrate, 1/4 teaspoon once or twice a day after meals.
06/29/2013: Sasha from Chicago, Illinois replies: "HASHIMOTO'S: I met with many doctors etc... Then I met with an nutritionist, who used broad spectrum of modalities. She said, "In 80-90% of the people Gluten could cause an autoimmune response which is an immune condition that causes the thyroid condition, Hashimotos." Because the body is reactioning to something, but what is it? Anyhow, what if the the cure for Hashimotos is to get on a total gluten free diet for few months and also get an food allergy test and stop eating all food you allergic too as well. Then see how you feel after a few months. I hope to God this helps someone."
I love this site and tell everyone I know to look at it!! thanks for your help. paula"
04/12/2008: Sharon from Valdosta, GA replies: "re: Answer for Paula from Goodyear, AZ Iodine/ACV. I don't think so as my bottle of Lugol's instructs you to take with ACV to add acidity."
I love this site and tell everyone I know to look at it!! thanks for your help. "
04/12/2008: Sharon from Valdosta, GA replies: "re: Answer for Paula from Goodyear, AZ Iodine/ACV. I don't think so as my bottle of Lugol's instructs you to take with ACV to add acidity."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Hashimoto thyroiditis is an inflammation of the thyroid where autoimmunity can initially cause the hyperthyroid, or in a longer term one results in also hypothyroid condition. Most people I know with autoimmunity regardless of the kinds of autoimmunity often the heavy metals and fungus or candida issues can sometimes be noted.
A simplest remedy in my opinion, but not necessarily resolve the real cause is the use of lavender oil applied topically around the neck area to reduce that inflammation of the thyroid and also lavender have certain antifungal properties which is useful against such condition if those are the cause. Lavender oil works by transdermal absorption, goes through the skin and goes directly to the offending inflammed glands, in this case the thyroid glands. Certain antibiotics potential of clove oil is a possibility added about 1 drops in a one liter drinking water, well shaken can also help at least for me in some reduction of weaknesses and lack of energy, which is common inhypothyroid individuals or perhaps some sickness where weaknesses is seen. Clove oil is warming as well as it having antibiotics potential that may also rid of the offending microbes causing the said condition.
As to the lavender oil, it can be applied three times or four times a day. Certain hospital medication may worsen the condition and may worsen hashimoto thyroiditis from frequent antibiotics, frequent vaccination, sugar diet, and oily food. Those results in the body to become acidic (antibiotics causes the body to become more acid), initiating either a fungus, mycoplasma to grow around the glandular areas initiating a condition of inflammation.
Basically the body's terrain is what is causing those microbes to grow in the first place (its a fertile round and our bad dietary habits make good fertilizers for them), and in some cases vaccinations (which are the source of mycoplasma living and heavy metals) as they generally grow in acidic conditions also.
Oily dietary foods block normal hormone function, sugar provides foods for mycoplasma and other yeast condition, while it is the accumulation of heavy metals from frequent antibiotics use makes an ideal food for mycoplasma and fungus like organism. Our modern diets actually are high in sugar, acid forming (bleached flour, common table salt, etc.), chemical toxins and heavy metals, and oily vegetables if we compared to a diets our original ancestors ate which are comprised of non-processed food.
Heavy metals are retained much more whenever a diet is excess in oily food (heavy metals are hydrophobic), mycobacterium are anaerobes so they use sugar as a nutrient and heavy metals to protect themselves. Antibiotic get destroyed easily in presence of heavy metal by oxidation and hence the "antibiotic resistance" from such use, but in this case from excess heavy metals making antibiotics less effective. Hence, reduction of accumulated heavy metals in people can reduce the resistance of antibiotics, but the antibiotics itself is somewhat acid forming.
Common supplements used are anti-fungals supplements such as vitamin D3 or D4, vitamin K2 (immune system, antifungal), magnesium, zinc, selenium, iodine, vitamin B3 niacinamide, artemisinin, chinese parsley, kelp, soy, and isoflavones.
However other supplements that are synergistic with iodine are quite necessary such as natural vitamin A and vitamin E as well. Vitamin E may lower the inflammation, however selenium has antifungal properties, but yet are also a necessary nutrition. My own observation if niacinamide B3 also have certain cleansing properties in itself which might reduce inflammation of the thyroid.
However it must not be forgotten that in the cases of those I am aware of are due to mycoplasma in nature and hence are fungus.
In which case, two remedies are antifungals are the 1/8 teaspoon (woman's dose) borax diluted in one liter of drinking water usually done between once a week to three times a week, and baking soda 1/4 teaspoon plus potassium bicarbonate 1/4 teaspoon in 1/2 glass of water. In event potassium bicarbonate is notobtainable, then potassium citrate. In event potassium cannot be found, then the remedy has to be altered to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda (NEVER baking powder) in 1/2 glass of water two times a day on an empty stomach once in the morning and once before bedtime. Normal bowel movements such as three times a day, equivalent to the number of meals in a day, can also reduce the symptoms are severity of the condition, by reducing the toxins in the body. However most people won't have normal 3 times a day bowel movements which creates toxin overload, resulting in easier inflammation.
Magnesium has often been ignored of having antibiotics potentials when we compared against zinc for example, And some magnesium supplements but I prefer magnesium citrate while magnesium bicarbonates are harder to use (its magnesium carbonate in bubbling carbon dioxide or carbonated water) as it is alkalizing, while the most alkaline magnesium, magnesium hydroxide are relatively difficult to absorb.
As to the wormwood (artemisia or artemisinin), chinese parsley (coriander), 10% sodium thiosulfate solution, cod liver oil for example, those have heavy metal chelating properties which reduces the free heavy metals which obviously are free radicals that may cause such inflammation in itself, but also provides nutrtion or protection of the offending microbes, such as mycoplasma. By reducing the heavy metals, sugar and especially the fructose (corn syrup), the organism starves and the inflammation is reduced. In event of a boron deficiency as boron are antifungal in itself, those lack of it can also remotely cause thyroid inflammation as the offending mycobacterium grows from the lack of anti fungals, such as selenium or boron. The proper use of chinese parsley, depending on how much some people can tolerate it. The less the toleration, the greater is the heavy metals accumulated in the body. So it is likely that a child with ADHD (often due to heavy metals as the cause) can tolerat only 2-3 leaves at a time, while a normal person like me can easily eat 1/2 kilogram or a pound of chinese parsley without any ill effects. Generally therefore, we can assume most people who have problems, might also have heavy metals in which case a chinese parsley can be taken only less perhaps just a tablespoon of it with plenty of water.
Niacinamide B3 has certain interesting cleansing properties that I noticed, which prevents the microbials from attaching and forming colonies also. Niacinamide, I think I would likely take about 300 mg a day for 5 days out of a week, while the b complex I would take two days out of a week so prevent vitamin B imbalances.
Liver also plays an important role in detoxification in which event the acetate portion of vinegar (liver detoxes them by acetylation, so the process is somewhat similar) in which case 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in 1/2 glass (at least) of water is used. That's taken twice a day on an empty stomach. Certain other interesting detoxification supplements, and hence with less toxins, less inflammation of the thyroid is also seen as helpful such as N Acetyl Cysteine, 500 mg, perhaps three times a week. Sodium thiosulfate 10% solution usually found in aquarium pet shops well labeled, no coloring, are sold as dechlorinators which can be added to drinking water to remove chlorine and especially neutralization of oxidizing chemical toxins buildup in the liver. The dose I would likely use is anywhere from 3 drops to a maximum of 12 drops in one glass of water, with a median dose of about 6 drops. The sodium thiosulfate removes free heavy metals. On the other hand, tannins also removes certain kinds of metals such as iron, and free metal iron are something microbes tend to flourish also or at least hide themselves against invading white blood cells or antibiotics.
Thus, green tea might be helpful, although the problem about green tea is the possibility of above average fluorides found in tea, in which case, chelating or removing fluorides using a small amount of borax may help.
However, other halogens which compete against iodine in the thyroid such as bromine, fluorine, and chlorine can also result in hypothyroid as they compete for the same place, and those should be removed from diets, or reduced, such as chlorinated water, fluoridated water, fluoridated toothpaste, excess insecticides use (which has fluorides)."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "nd maybe 1 capsules a day, or twice a day for only 3-4 days out of the week would also be helpful.
Vitamin C sodium ascorbate will be helpful. One extra notes, that you need to pay attention, vitamin B complex is taken once a week or twice a week. Without getting into confusion, I prefer niacinamide vitamin B3 as part of the ingredient, any other names of B3 you risk possible confusion of names.
Chromium, at least for now should not be taken that often, and once a week or less is better. The reason is simple: you are removing heavy metals and putting them back in is not helpful
Should you want mineral balances, the safest route, I think would be just add sea salt (dead sea, and other places high in heavy minerals are o.k). The usual dose is 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt in one liter of all your drinking water. This should help autoimmunity.
The second issue is alkalization, which removes heavy metals reduce inflammation and I have seen this alone can helped greatly in the improvement of autoimmunity by leaps and bounds. Usually autoimmunity requires somewhat larger does than most people of baking soda, which is often 1/2 teaspoon taken twice a day is added. You can also put in 2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar also taken twice a day mixed with the 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda.
Miscarriage, is often due to vitamin C deficiency, high heavy metals, which effects fetal development too. The reason I know is I wouldn't be alive right now if my mother weren't eating by the baskets of oranges, as she had previous cases of miscarriage before.
This is the simplest remedy that I can think of that would help you. If this is not helpful there is always a tiny pinch of borax added, to drinking water once a week. However, I don't think you need them here, unless the fungus like condition of autoimmunity does not respond to the simple remedies."