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Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Acidophilus, Coconut Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar
- Antibiotics, Bismuth
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Aloe Vera, Lemon Water
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Baking Soda, Cayenne
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Coconut Oil, Manuka Honey
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Water
- Baking Soda
- Broccoli Sprouts for H. Pylori
- Cayenne, Carrot Juice, Mucus-Less Diet
- Coconut Oil
- Colloidal Silver
- Colloidal Silver, Chaparral, Shitake
- Cranberry Juice
- D-Mannose, Omega 3 Fatty Acids
- Dietary Changes
- General Feedback
- Get Tested to Make Sure You Are Indeed Cured
- Good Nutrition
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Keep Your pH Alkaline
- Light Meals After 4pm
- Manuka Honey
- Mastic Gum
- Mastic Gum and Manuka Honey
- Mastic Gum, Colloidal Silver, Yogurt
- Mastic Gum, Digestive Aids
- Matula Tea
- Medication Issues
- Multiple Remedies
- Oregano Oil
- OTC Warning!
- Ph Balancing
- Pine Nut Oil
- Pine Nut Oil, Turmeric
- Pregnancy and H.Pylori
- Reishi Mushrooms
- Remedies Needed
- Slippery Elm
- Swig of Tequila
- Tea Tree Oil
[YEA] 11/06/2010: Carie from Hudson, Oh, Usa: "Went to doctor's office for what I am sure was ulcer. Had the gnawing feeling in my stomach about half an hour after I ate and the other symptoms associated with ulcers. After researching this site, found out that most ulcers are caused by h. Pylori. Tried the Manuka Honey for a while but was not agreeing with me. Tried the Mastic Gum and within three days the gnawing feeling was gone. Took it for 20 days (that was how much I had), two pills in morning about half an hour before I ate anything. Had the die off effects so I did not feel great for a few days but stuck through it knowing it was Herx's. Got tested for h. Pylori after and it came back negative. Got my mastic gum at local health food store."Replies
06/15/2012: Yvonne from Perth, Western Australia replies: "My mother has been diagnosed with h. pylori and was wondering if she can purchase mastic gum tablets anywhere in Australia or if she can import them from the USA."
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 10/17/2010: Suneel1980 from Houston, Texas: "I had H.Pylori for 10 years and tried triple therapy, anti biotics, PPI, etc. Nothing resolved my issue. I wanted to try natural remedies and searched the web and found mastic gum eliminates hpylori and cures gastritis. 3 weeks back I ordered mastic gum 1g. each capsule and taking one in the morning and one evening, from the third day itself I started feeling better. And now I am very happy, dont know it cured hpylori or not as I have to go for a urea breath test or stool test. But I am feeling much better now. Will keep you posted after my test. I will recomend this to anybody suffering from gastritis or ulcers. Feel free to ask me if you need any more details. Thanks"Replies
10/26/2010: John from Atlanta, Georgia replies: "Did this work for you? Are u finally cured? Please let me know if this worked for you and you were tested to see if it was still there. Mr.firstname.lastname@example.org
01/15/2011: Jen from Vancouver, Canada replies: "My 16 yrs. old son just recently diagnosed positive of the h pylori and has to take 2xday of Prevacid 30 mg (lansoprazole), Biazin BID 500 mg (clarithromycin), and 2 cap of amoxicillin of 500 mg each for two weeks. I feel that this is too much for him to take but we are hoping that we will be able to cure it. Did you take the mastic gum while your in antibiotic pills? Please inform me the result of your breath test. Were you able to get rid/cure the h pylori?"
Mastic Gum and Manuka Honey
[YEA] 06/19/2008: Jake from Phoenix, AZ: "H. Pylori: Took Mastic Gum and two tablespoons of Manuka Honey daily for several weeks. All symptoms are gone and normal."Replies
06/27/2008: Megha from London, United Kingdom replies: "re: H. Pylori: Hi Jake, Just wanted to know whether its safe to buy mustic gum from the net or any other place, could you please tell me where did u get urs from. Also, i have symptoms is HP but havent got tested yet, is it ok if i take the mustic gum before testing. Thanks very much for ur help."
Mastic Gum, Colloidal Silver, Yogurt
[YEA] 03/28/2008: Sue from Webster, NY: "I wrote a few weeks ago about taking colloidal silver, mastic gum, yogurt and prilosec for H Pylori. After taking it for approximately 5 weeks, my recent stool antigen came back positive - I do feel somewhat better, but obviously the bacteria is still present. Just an update... I may try ACV or Oil of Oregano."Replies
[QUESTION] 01/20/2009: KATYA from Malaga, Spain replies: "hello, i was recently diagnosed with H.pylori, and i was wondering about colloidal silver if it could distroy the bacteria or not, i've been reading and it says it can, but others like yours say it helped but not erradicated it, i am taking the antibiotics, and other tablets to get rid of it, but i have also heard it can take several treatments to finally defeat it. I would like some help please, this is very uncomfortable as you all may now. hope you all get better as soon as posible. thank you."
[YEA] 03/12/2008: Susan from Rochester, NY: "I have been suffering with H Pylori since November 2007. After trying the traditional western medicine cure and not being able to tolerate it, I started taking Mastic Gum, 2 caps twice daily. I am also taking 3 droppers ful of Colloidal Silver 10 ppm 3 times a day. I am taking Prilosec twice daily and eating 1 cup of yogurt as well. I am having more good days than bad, but am definately not cured yet. I have been on this regimen for 3 weeks and will continue for a few more before trying something else."Replies
08/10/2008: Carlos from PLANO, Texas replies: "Suzan: where Did you get the Colloidal Silver, Have you had asides effects? Well How is everything going with the Bacteria, are you better?
A Naturopathic Doctor can be a solution too, most of them knows how to handle the bacteria? I think. I would really appreciate your comments and advice. God bless you in your efforts. Kind regards, Carlos A. Cardenas"
12/20/2010: Callmemvp from Los Angeles, California replies: "Hey Susan,
I think your problem is that you're over doing it with the prisolec.. U only need to take 1 per day... It supposedly contains a small amount of aluminum and another substance that u shouldn't take too much of in your condition with the H. Pylori bacteria. Hope this helps, let me know how you feel afterwards."
Mastic Gum, Digestive Aids
[YEA] 08/05/2010: Beechee Queen from San Bernardino, California: "I was diagnosed with H. Pylori and put on antibiotics and all kinds of medications for over 7 months it was getting so bad I literally stopped eating meals and lived on bananas and oatmeal for fear of the returning belching, gas, bloating, indigestion the antibiotics and endless prescriptions didn't help. Then I searched for alternative remedies and came across a couple of promising cures so I went and bought 3 products hoping that at least one might work. And 3 to 4 days later I noticed that I did not have any more burping, gas, indigestion, or bloating.. It was mastic gum and some digestive aid for healing the stomach lining. It worked I have never had a single symptom since and that was over 3 years ago. It is a sap from a tree that draws out and kills the pylori. I would definitely give this a try."Replies
10/26/2010: Stixoffire from Dothan, Usa replies: "I would like to know what is the digestive aid that you took. What is the name of it. I have read several different reviews on here - many people discuss remedies that deal with the symptoms - but do not cure the infection. That is like saying I have a big gash in my skin that hurts everyday and treating for pain. I do not want just the pain to be gone, I want the cure. I am not allergic to anything that I am aware of and I have tried Manuka Honey (1 teaspoon full) - I had an immediate allergic reaction, my body started to itch everywhere for 2 days.
I am thinking to try the Garlic and Broccoli Sprout method. According to the John Hopkins study: "Citing their new "demonstration of principle" study, a Johns Hopkins researcher and an international team of scientists caution that eating sprouts containing sulforaphane did not cure infection by the bacterium Helicobacter pylori (H. Pylori). They do not suggest that eating this or any amount of broccoli sprouts will protect anyone from stomach cancer or cure GI diseases"
11/23/2010: Lauralight from Portland, Or replies: "Yep, I cured it by grounding up broccoli and putting into my cats wet food and my cat healed from H. P."
11/27/2010: Lynn from Oregon City, Or replies: "This is in regards to the comments about H-Pylori and Mastic Gum. Several years ago our teen son became very ill. He had pain of the stomach, bloating, and overall did not feel well. We took him to regular doctor who without running any tests prescribed over the counter products to relieve pain... This was not effective... Time went on, we revisited the doctor with no good results, and our son became increasingly ill, losing nearly 40 pounds. We became alarmed and took him to another doctor who immediately sent him to a gastro specialist who placed him on antibiotics after finding not only H-Pylori but the accompanying ulcers in his stomach. Much damage had been done. Antibiotic therapy did not eradicate the H-Pylori and we were told after more than two rounds of antibiotics that they had done what they could.
A friend of ours who is a health researcher, when he heard about our problem, guided us to Mastic Gum. Our son was put on it, and withing thirty days began to respond positively to the therapy. This was a miracle! Unfortunately, the ulcers had been there a long time and needed healing. This process has taken years... Our son still has problems when he eats the wrong thing but he continues to do what he can...
Side note - antibiotics were not helpful at all and we also administered other products to get his flora back to normal. Now to try the pine nut oil...."
12/17/2010: Name from City, State replies: "Try a strong cup of chamomile tea each night."
[NAY] 12/28/2010: Ian from Nahariya, Israel replies: "I can't speak for Mastic Gum - yet. It is next on my list to try as I have had HP for 10 years on and off. The "off " being on anti biotics but the HP always comes back. Let me warn people against taking Manuka honey. I tried it as some said it had been helpful. It was the exact opposite and I thought I would have to go to hospital. HP loves the sugar. Manuka DOES heal external wounds magnificently though. Another failure is Grape fruit seed extract as a cure. It could conceivably be a preventative."
[YEA] 09/18/2013: Tony C from Antelope,ca replies: "To: Lynn from Oregon: I beleived I had a bleeding ulcer in my lower stomach, as I was getting black bowel movements.. I stumbled onto virgin pine nut oil, heard a 97% heal rate with this oil try it. I took it immediately and within a week, my stools were back to normal brown, and normal bowel movements, so I drank each bottle for a month, so at the end of 2 months, I ordered 2 more bottles just to finalize this healing, which is working on me... I am also taking mastic gum starting today for a 30 day run at 2 pills a day. H. Pylori is tough to get rid of, so try the natural things that work, coconut oil raw, also I am taking probiotic and enzyme tabs each day to restore ph balances, and also as a last resort, epazote herb tea, known as Mexican tea, will kill parasites, H. Pylori, fungal bacteria, etc, as the Mexican people actually use the herb in their foods to stay free of digestive problems. Only drink 1/4 cup of tea once a day, for 3 days, stop, resume 2 weeks later and repeat.. See if that cures it, if not wait a week and try the formula again... It is a very strong tea and if overdrank could have some side effects, so drink 1/4 cup once a day only! Too many Doctors confuse the public and misdiagnose these problems. This is common knowledge I have shared, so use at your discretion. However, I am taking all of the above in stages to get rid of H. Pylori. Good health! ps: I have spent around $200 so far."
[YEA] 01/31/2009: Linda from Orlando, FL: "I am a nurse, and about a year ago I was seriously ill. The doctors did every test... then blood test which tested positive for H-pylori... I was soooo desperate for a cure... because I could not tolerate the "standard" treatment of antibiotics, antacids; I turned to the internet and found Matula Tea... it saved my life. You have to understand this nasty bacteria had me bedbound for 6 weeks... with one 2 day stay in the hospital for dehydration. After one month of taking the tea, I was tested again and no sign of H-Pylori. I started to feel "Alive"again.
But here I am yet again with the bacteria. I believe I know the source now, because people too can be carriers of this disease with no symptoms. Well this time I decided to try the "Standard treatment" and had a severe allergic reation to the antibiotics, and still have H-pylori positive. I have learned my lesson, I am ordering Matula Tea once again, and the person who I believe infected me is to be tested and treated. "
[YEA] 05/27/2008: Colleen from Cape Town, South africa: "Matula Tea killed my H Pylori in a month. Had a gastroscopy before and was told it was present. Had a second one a month later and no sign of H Pylori. Hope it stays away! This tea is good!"Replies
07/21/2008: Elemr from Johannesburg, South Africa replies: "Where can I buy Matula Tea here in Johannesburg, South Africa?"
08/06/2008: Sylvia from Nevada City, CA replies: "Where can you purchase Matula Tea in the US?"
[NAY] 11/26/2009: Sje from San Francisco, Ca replies: "Well, the matula tea DID NOT work for me and my girlfriend....which seems strange as it's supposed to have a 99.7% success rate. That means out of 1,000 people, both of us and one other person remained infected while 997 people were cured. Seems like BS to me. I am currently seeking legal/investigative council & am more than anxious to begin and complete a thorough background/company/fact check with Dankirzar Limited, the company whom sells/distributes Matula Tea, and the actual tea itself."
08/27/2011: Slava from Seattle, Wa replies: "My name Slava let me know wear you purchase Matula Tee I have H Pylory maybe you will give me good recommendation"
04/25/2012: Natasha from Port Angeles, Wa replies: "I never tried Matula Tea, but thinking about it. I've been diagnosed with H. Pylori 5 years ago, and never being treated, because was pregnant at the moment when diagnosed. Self-treated myself using info from "Gut Flash Plan" by Dr. Gittleman. It worked for some time. The treatment included mastic gum, cayenne pepper, Pau D'Arco tea, Dr. Ohhira probiotics, cabbage juice, DGL (type of licorice from any health food store). I felt great. Occasionnaly, have minor stomach upsets, and burning, heartburn as well. Usually I pop couple of those probiotics, mastic gum, some Pau D'Arco tea and whatever else I find that feel like it would help ( oregano or ginger for example). After severe herburn lasted 10 days I finally ventured to see a local Doc, which administered a stool test, and, Of course, "there she was, like disco lemonade... " h. Pylori, unbeatable. So I am about to get my antibiotics and ppi's and planning to combine it with all the other more natural treatments, plus add what I've just read here."
[YEA] 02/27/2008: Walter from Fort Lauderdale, USA: "I have been suffering with very badly with H.pylori for at least the last 5 years. I had 10 treatents of antibiotics during this time without any success. Everytime I had the breath test it came back positive. I was getting so desperate about my health and even changed my Doctors several times after they all started to tell me that it was because I was panicking so much that I wasn't getting better. I finally searched the internet and found Matula Tea. I am pleased to tell you that Matula has proved to be a real winner and it has given me back my health again. A month after I completed the treatment I did the H.pylori stool antigen test and it came back negative. I was so happy I couldn't believe it. So much so for the antibiotics and other drugs that simply didn't work. I feel duty bound to let other people know about Matula Tea and how it has worked for me. ' What I found great about Matula Tea is that I didn't suffer any side effects like I did with all the antibiotic treatments. I hope that all you people that are suffering just like I did will find my story beneficial to your future health."Replies
06/29/2008: Carol from Kansas City, USA replies: "I would like to know if there are others who have tried Matula Tea for severe indigestion or ulcer problems? I can only find one soure to purchase Matula from and that leaves me quite skeptical as to whether this is a good helpful product or not. Let's hear from others. I have been tested for everything imaginable. Absolutely nothing helps my digestion."
06/30/2008: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "Hello Carol from Kansas City, Have you tried eliminating bleached flour products from your diet? It hs been working for me for 40+ years."
05/11/2009: Janet Milf from Detroit, Oregon replies: "To get your digestion working your adrenals and/or thyroid could be kapoots
Take adrenal glandular and 10 mgs of iodine per day
- Sea Aloe Gold is good 3-6 a day
Digestive enzyme - BIO GEST or BILEX
Alkaline water - 1 glass water with 1/4 teaspoon sea salt - 8X day
Anti inflammatory - astaxanthin
6 months !!! it wont happen over night
if that dont work give mastic gum a try"
[NAY] 12/24/2011: Michael from Los Angeles, California replies: "I tried it twice. It did not work for me. I don't think it works for anyone. I contacted the matula sellers, they did not refund my $286x2= $572. I am going to be on antibiotics for the next days."
[WARNING!] 01/31/2008: Tony from NY, USA: "dear friends, STAY AWAY from matula tea which is sold in the internet. I bought it and when I got it brewed it for about 5 or so minutes. I took a FEW SIPS and minutes later became very ill, allergic reaction. Called 911 and ended in the Emergency Hospital. Be careful folks with some of the things you put in your body. Remember, be careful, as many of these people selling these remedies first objective is to make a buck."Replies
[WARNING!] 09/07/2008: Tony from NY, USA replies: "OK,
I did try matula tea, but as I stated above had a SEVERE allergic reaction to this dangerous tea and ended in the ER, and before, the people that sell it stated in their website that you get no allergic reaction from it, but they lied back then, and now, upon reviewing their website, they took out this false statement about the tea not causing an allergic reaction after it is consumed.
STAY AWAY from this tea.
The people who sell this tea are from South Africa and as you can see, many of the so called "Positive remarks" are people from South Africa....hmmm.....! I wonder if the folks that sale this tea are the very ones posting positive remarks, just to make a BUCK! For SHAME!!!
If you try it, you do so at your own risk! I say, try something else, save your money and DON'T BUY this deadly tea!"
11/23/2008: Niki from Las Vegas, NV USA replies: "I'm so sorry to hear of the allergic reaction. But I must say that there are many pharm. and/or OTC drugs out there that also cause allergic reactions. Obviously something in the Matula mix is allergenic for you. They (Matula) does not list out what the herbal mix includes, unfortunately. Perhaps they need to invest in a patent in order to do so. Anyway, I have been using the tea for less than a week and have noticed a bit of improvement with my severe acid reflux. My symptoms were in the areas of chronic cough, nausea and constant hunger. I had been taking only Prilosec (among other acid reflux meds)for some time since my doctors did not "find" the H. pylori bacteria. However, Prilosec often made me sick, I'm thinking due to my stomach being unable to digest the food properly because the acid content was being neutralized. I have spent many, many nights without sleep. Desperate to find an alternative to the synthetic approaches, I have been searching the internet for possible avenues to explore. Yes, the Matula formula is expensive when compared to a few packs of Prilosec, but not so expensive when compared to the constant doctor visits, endoscopy, and OTC drugs. I paid $159.00 plus $30.00 shipping for one month supply of Matula. I will continue to use the $6.33 cup of tea twice a day for the entire month. But one must not assume that simply taking the tea is the cure all. The website does give some directions in what dietary changes need to be made. This is very important for the success of the program. And the dietary changes need to be somewhat permanent. They also give you ebooks to read for additional information regarding the lifestyle and dietary changes. If you have tried everything else, then you know how desperate it feels to try to find anything that works, and you'll try everything. But also remember, clinical trials are never finished. Think of all the pharm drugs that have been put on the market only to be pulled due to some unforeseen (didn't show up in the clinical trials) complications. But how many of those companies reimburse you for the money spent to discover you can't take the drugs. Matula does guarantee their product (probably minus the $30 shipping), so if you experience a problem (not to discount the severe reaction mentioned), then return the product. But don't give up on searching for the one thing that does work for you. I have thrown away more drugs due to reactions (this includes supplements), but I know there is something out there for me. Perhaps Matula will be the one, maybe not. I'll let y'all know."
[YEA] 12/04/2008: Pettie from San Francisco, CA replies: "I had stomache pain for over 2 years. My doctor denied that I had the bacteria and didn't do the test. We did scat scan, MRI, X-Rays... He found nothing. Then I got Acid Reflux really bad. Took 2 Prevacid and 2 Carafat each day. A biopsy at an endoscopy found the bacteria in my stomache and barret syndrom 1st stage.I took the pills for 9 months and had a lot of side effects. A specialist told me,"millions of people live with this and take the pills every day. This is nothing." I started Matula Tea and had no side effects. After 2 weeks I reduces my medication, after 3 weeks I stopped taken it. I emailed Customer Service from Matula Tea some times and asked for advice. He told me to take other remedies with the tea.(Slippery Elm, L-Glutamin, Betain) It worked for me. I had an Endoscopy two months ago, my bacteria is gone, my barret syndrom is gone, as well as my acid reflux. If I will get acid reflux or the bacteria again, I will take the tea again."
10/26/2010: Alib from Swansea, Wales, Uk replies: "You have to be careful about condemning the product when you get a bad reaction - because the reaction may not have been to the tea itself but could have been the bugs reacting to it and throwing out some kind of toxin that your body reacted to. We assume when we get an 'allergic' reaction that it is to some kind of food, but is our body reacting to the food, or a toxin that is being produced by the microbes?
Some people need to start with a very small amount and gradually build up to the full dose. I have found this with other things - many react to things like eggs, or coconut oil when they first start a Candida diet, but by just starting with a teaspoon, or even half a teaspoon and gradually increasing it, eventually they are able to tolerate the full amount. It is not them reacting - but the Candida. Just to bear in mind too, that things like diarrhea, rashes, nausea and vomiting, etc. , are actually detox reactions and are not necessarily bad. Your body has to get rid of the microbes and other rubbish some way!"
[NAY] 10/26/2010: Tommy from North York, On, Canada replies: "Hi, I took the matula tea and it did nothing for me. I had a confirm case of H. Pylori. The tea seems strange because the ingredients are unknown. They could patented if it's truly get rid of H. Pylori but they didn't since 2006. I also contacted lady who tried the matula tea and she was still positive with H. Pylori. H. Pylori is a very difficult to treat bacteria. Because it buries itself into the lining of the stomach so deep that many antibiotics fail to get rid of it. The immune system cannot reach it because it's an infection in the stomach and they have to stay longer enough to kill the colonies. This seems to create an inflammation of the stomach which could cause gastritis, ulcers and stomach cancers. Add to that the bio film it makes. That will make H. Pylori infection 100 times resistant to antibiotics. Alot of research are done lately to determine the cause of the high failure treatment of H. Pylori with the PPI and 2 antibiotics. The H. Pylori failure treatments are due to so many causes which includes:
1-Its location in the stomach makes it hard to get rid of.
2-The urease activity of H. Pylori which allows it to survive the stomach acid.
3-The multiresistance of H. Pylori to antibiotics like clarythromycine and Metronedazole.
4- reinfection that may occur due to the presence of H. Pylori in the tooth plaque and the tongue.
5-The biofim that protects H. Pylori and makes it resistant up to 100 times to any antibiotics.
6- The genetic makeup of the host and H. Pylori.
I don't believe in the matula tea. It's very expensive tea with unknown ingredients and so many people complains about the high failure rate using this tea. I wish the tea really works but this is far to be true. Here some remedies that MIGHT work against H. Pylori:
Mastic gum. Lauric acid. Sulforaphane. Quercetin. Allicin and garlic juice. Wassabia extract. L. Reuterin and L. Salivarius
The above remedies have some activities against H. Pylori but that doesn't mean they will heal the infection. They might reduce or kill some colonies. The only high rate treatment now is a deadly treatment with 3 antibiotics and an PPI. The treatment has 90% success rate. I hope that can help you some how."
10/11/2011: San from Modiin, Israel replies: "Did you get rid of helicobacter? My son has the bacteria and after 2 rounds of antibiotiocs, still has it. I want to try mastic gum. Do you have any idea where I can get it? We live in Israel too and so far I haven't been able to find it in the health stores."
[YEA] 07/10/2007: Tracy from Cape Town, South Africa: "re: Ulcers and h pylori (ailment) -- Matula Tea worked for me. Expensive but I am free from the pylori bug at last."Replies
[NAY] 06/17/2009: amyhappens from New York, NY replies: "MATULA TEA - DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY! From what I can tell, the tea is simply a diuretic one akin to Fennel tea or Nettle. It made me sick. Further, I have tried to email and contact the Matula Tea dealers/makers through "Super Natural Herbs" (http://www.super-natural-herbs.com) and Ulcer Cure (http://www.ulcer-cure.com/) - a complete waste of time: NO REPLY now that they have my money. Nice. Avoid Matula tea and buy yourself some Fennel tea if you're constipated, get some Aloe Juice if have gastritis, and stick diligently to the Manuka Honey and Mastic Gum if you have H Pylori!
By the way, I cured my H Pylori without antibiotics and note how on my blog:
[YEA] 01/01/2008: lorna from stranraer, scotland: "please post this comment on your site. ACV Months ago i started to feel very unwell and quite depressed had problems swallowing then the horrible chest pain. Went to see specialist who did an endoscopy and biopsy which showed gastritis and that i had H Pylori. Went on to triple therapy and also had to take 80mg omeprazole daily. Anyway finished the meds of in October 07. took months to feel better but eventually i did. Except for the acid reflux. I have no pain just the most horrendous taste in my mouth and a white tongue. I still have problems sleeping and ferel like my stomach is doing sommersaults and just as im about to drop of i jump as i seem to stop breathing. Anyway i found this site a while back and went out and bought ACV tablets. I was to afraid to try them as i had such bad experiences with the omeprazole. I waited til i saw the specialist and asked for his advise. He loked at me as if i was mad and put me back on omeprazole which he knew made me feel ill. Today is jan 1st 08 and i woke feeling dreadful, more through lack of sleep and i have decided to try the ACV today. Guess they cant kill me. I will write back and let you all know how i did on them and i hope i get the relief you all have had. happy new year x"Replies
08/07/2009: Janneg from Madison, Wi replies: "You poor thing. I know how you feel. I've been -----d over by doctors many a times. Find yourself a very experienced acupuncture doctor. Chinese Medicine is much more reliable than western if you have an experienced doctor. It's been used for over 5000 years. I know western medicine is all over the news and a very strong power in the world, but it is motivated by money, and is treated as a business. They keep you sick to keep you coming back. Start eating a lot of veggies. Eat some veggies with every meal, and try to eat more veggies than all other types of foods on your plate. moderate protein, some with each meal, but not more than the veggies. Have a piece of fruit with each meal. Look into what vitamins are in what foods, and make sure you are getting all necessary vitamins from your food. Absorption of nutrients is better when you get them from a food source, and there is varying info on how good taking vitamin supplements really is... some info says that it can actually be harmful. Eat some plain yogurt with live active cultures, or if you have difficulty with yogurt take some lactobacillus (live active cultures) with food in pill form. Various forms of lactobacillus are the good bacteria in your digestive tract. I've read that 80% of your immune system is in your digestive tract. When you take antibiotics it kills not only the bad bacteria in your stomach but the good bacteria as well. So basically it ----s up your immune system, and if you take too many antibiotics it really ----s up your immune system and you end up with an auto-immune disease, diabetes, or cancer. So if you ever feel like you have to take them (which to me is debatable except in extreme emergency situations) then supplement with eating lots of yogurt with live active cultures (make sure it says this on the container) or lactobacillus supplements. Some other things that encourage the growth of the good bacteria you have that I can name off the top of my head are sprouts, all forms of algae and micro algae, cranberries, greens, veggies. Variety of foods is always best. If someone tells you not to eat any of a certain food group.. tell them to ---- off.. Everything in moderation is best. And foods of all colors is a good idea. Broad spectrum of nutrients. Eating your fruit with your veggies is good. It helps you maintain a normal blood sugar. Eating just fruit alone can spike your blood sugar, and I believe that digestion, and absorption is best if you eat protein, veggies, and fruit at every meal, because often to absorb one nutrient you need another. This along with variety helps to ensure absorption, and digestion. I hope this helps you. Another good thing is steam bath. Take a hot bath and sit in it for about 15-20 minutes to sweat. It gets out toxins... do this especially if your tongue has a purple tint to it. Also, take it easy. Don't stress yourself out, don't get yourself too involved in other peoples problems.. It can wear on you, and really a person can only truly help themselves. And don't worry you'll get better. It's all about what you take in, and how you feel... eat good, and don't stress.. you'll get better. The body can take a ridiculous amount of abuse and still heal itself good as new... It's incredible and beautiful. Here's my advice. Take it or leave it."
[NAY] 05/28/2009: Alessia from Guttenberg, NJ: "I have been diagnosed with the bacteria from 2007, i did 4 treatment of antibiotics trying to remove the bacteria without any success.
1.treatment combination 8 pills a day
2.amoxicillin, flagyl, prolisec, beptimol
I do not remenber the other one.
I am desperate to find a way to get ride of the bacteria
please let me know what i can do
05/29/2009: Greels from West Wareham, MA replies: "Alessia, I contracted h pylori two years ago and went through antibiotic treatment "twice"... both times failing as I was told I had a type that was strain resistant. After much research, I started taking mastica chios (mastic gum) twice a day. To help heal my stomach lining I also took DGL Licorice as I have HBP. I was recently retested again for h pylori and the results were "negative"
08/19/2009: Diane from Satellite Beach, Fl replies: "My body's never taken medications well, and I believe it's a result of having H. pylori for so long without being diagnosed. So I go the natural route. I do use ___ (mastic gum ) from a company in CA (I mention this because not all mastic gum is created equal) and also use their chewable wafer Mastic Gum. They said if not completely destroyed where it resides (sometimes in the mouth), the H. pylori does return. So it's good to stay on the oral ___ religiously for 30 days and also chew the Mastic Gum wafer to kill the H. pylori in the mouth.
Also, just read about and started, with great success, 500 mg curcumin (tumeric), but it must be mixed with one teaspoon of Extra Virgin olive oil. You should add to this 500 mg hesperin and quercertin. The Extra Virgin is important. You take this on an empty stomach. I've switched to a gluten-free diet, with much success, which probably correlates to the others having success with omitting bleached flour from their diet. Hope this helps. It's helped me, but, then again, I don't like taking the meds from the docs. In my opinion, antibiotics are no friend to the intestines."
12/29/2012: Franky from Beirut, Lebanon: "Hi guys, I'm an alternative healer and after reading so many posts on H-pylori, I cant help myself but mention a few things that people might be missing. First of all, Hpylori can be healed, for all those who keep saying or thinking they are stuck with it for life. I've done it many times.
Second: With H-pylori, its more important to know what not to eat, then what to eat. And the problem is there arent many things you can eat. Also when on a strict diet, lets say youve been on this diet for week or two. One mistake of eating the worng food, and you have to start all over again. Its like a cancer. And a very similar cancer diet should be applied. And to make things worse these bacteria usually make your environment very succeptible to other very dangerous non detecable bacteria and fungus.
Basically: you should stay away from all wheat products, other grains, rice, anything with gluten , nuts, mushrooms, cheese, potatoes, anything with sugar or that ferments, candy, chocolates, cakes, pizzas, burgers, fastfood, junk food, supermarket food are all dead food that lowers the bodys internal frequency and slowly kills it attracting many diseases and cancer once the body frequency is low. No tomatoes, no fruits except for pineapple, Fruits that are raw and not ripe yet, like raw papaya, raw mango are very good. And may be a green apple. You have a sweet tooth, go for carrot juice, half a cup a day. And dont worry youre craving will decrease. You have to eat pretty much high protein diet, fish , chicken , meat, sea food. You can eat eggs twice a week for breakfast. But not much of the yellow as you cant digest bot white and yoke together yet. Vegetables all are allowed. And juicing them like cucumber, wheatgrass, basil, any lettuce, beetroot, celery and any leaf or dark greens. Only castor oil, coconut oil and olive oil can be cosumed. Castor oil for a short period, 1-2 weeks max 1 small spoon a day. Coconut and olive one big spoon a day each for as long as required but not more than a month without taking a short break.
Herbs are very good, all herbs, spice is good too.
What works best are the following:
Very effective: Grape fruit seed oil, cloves, clove oil, Oregano oil, Borax (Look for Ted's borax mixes- Ted truly is a God send, Colloidal silver, vegetable juice, Herb Teas, almost any flower tea, Orange peel, Cinnamon, Thyme, Sodium bicarbonate, ACV. Echinacea, Olive leaf extract or simply eat 10-20 olive leaves a day---start with 10 a day divided, Green tea extract, Raw papaya & raw mango, cabbage juice, aloevera, coconut oil (Milk thistle for liver, Horsetail and sodium bicarbonate for kidney along the way) (Nettle, horsetail, Echinacea & little bit licorice root powder 1/8 spoon should be taken also for Proper thymus immune function, The thymus gland is the most ignored organ in conventional medicine I believe, and is one of the most important for immunity WBC and hormone balance)
Effective: Any meat chicken or fish or animal (organic). Probiotics and probiotic food collustrum milk, whey protein, magnesium, zinc, molybdenum, Oxgen, Vit C, Vit D, fish oil, flax seeds, sun flower seeds, sessame seeds, pumpkin seed, all seeds raw ofcourse, turmeric, lettuce, mint, basil, ginger, Turmeric spirulina, Garlic, onion, and most herb pills, cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and cauliflower and brussel sprouts, and any sprouts. But for beans only use mung bean sprouts for salads. Anise, Fennel, Corriander, rosemary alfalfa,
Necessary: Betaine Hcl is necessary for complete digestion sometimes, and most importantly, a colon cleanse should be done every week. ( take 1 spn granulated lechitin everyday) Slippery elm and mastic gum or acacia gum also helps alot speeding healing as it is necessary to heal the guys and intestines and colon walls that are being eaten by the hpylori -- castor oil is very good also for this regard.
To remove excess sugar eat apple peels with seeds, cinnamon tea, Thermos seeds -raw (hard as stone) grounded to powder in a grinder and eaten raw (added to drink or food).
About sodium bicarbonate: Drink soda B half a spoon with water in orning, And, half a spoon soda b with vitamin c in pm. Half Acv with salad or drink Apple Cider Vinegar also with half a spoon soda b anytime you wish once a day. Always take soda b and XXXXX also half hour after you eat or one hour after you eat. Do this soda b drinks every other day. Do this for 2 weeks only and then takeor one sodium bicarbonate mix or 2 max a day. Either sodab is taken alone with water or mixed with vitamin c. Or even Apple Cider Vinegar or lime. More info on soda B: please refer to ted A work of warning: when I say herb teas, I dont mean supermarket junk tea bags. When I saw vegetables. I mean Organic vegetables. One organic apple whill give you 3-5 times the vitamins than an inorganic one, with less pesticides and god know what else these days.
Alcohol nicotine and caffeie should be avoided. Drink lots of water through out day, 2 cups as soon as you open your eyes in the morning, but drink only half a cup while eating. Remember its more important to know what not to eat than what supplements to take so hang in there. You will be able to eat more variety when this hpylori is erradicated. It is very dangerous and the cause of more cancers than anyone can physically imagine.
One last advice which I learned from the current Master "Ted", whom with his indirect guidance I have helped heal many cancers and numerous medical conditions , is: When taking supplements or power foods, it is very important to taek them repeatedly divided in to 5 or 6 doses a day. Its the frequency abd quality of herb or medication that makes a difference. As compared a little of each herb taken 2 or three times a day. Although I must admit the combinations of the right herbs or medications does increase potency of treatment; especially with the very effective list above
Questions are always welcome, for faster respone, just make sure you email me a quick note to mido2k(at)hotmail. com stating that you have posted a question on earthclinic
Also I would love it if everyone that reads this message takes just 3 seconds to Thank god for the existence of Ted, and say a small prayer for him as well, as words cannot express how wonderful and important this person have been to sick people all around the world. A special place in heaven is reserved for Ted.
Best Regards to all, Good luck and by the way a Merry Christmas and a Happy new year to all. Franky :)"
01/09/2012: Heloise from Detroit, Michigan: "Treatment options H. Pylori:
- In an attempt to clear the stomach of urea I spit out all saliva and mucous formation in my mouth. If and to what extent this reduces urea levels in the stomach is not certain.
H. pylori expresses the highest level of urease seen in bacteria. The urease activity was recognized as an important parameter enabling acid survival early on in reasearch on the gastric mechanisma of H. pylori.
Urea is a major end product of nitrogen metabolism by mammals. Diffusing from the blood through mucosal tissues and into the gastrointestinal tract. By metabolozing urea, H. Pylori is naturally acid resistant. When urea is added to H. Pylori cell suspensions at low pH values (down to 2.0), bacterial survival is enhanced 10^3 - 10^6-fold compared with that in suspensions without urea, and survival is associated with rapid alkalinization of the suspensions by urease.
- Drink liquorice tea (add 10 drops of H2O2 30% food grade solution)
- Chew mastic gum / eat mastic powder
- Increase stomach acidity with vitamin C
- Take aspirin (aspirin might increase the susceptibility of Helicobacter pylori to antimicrobials)
- Drink matula tea
- Take bismuth subgallate pills or pepto-bismol
- Eat broccoli sprouts or broccoli
We showed that H. Pylori can be eradicated from human gastric xenografts after short-term administration of sulforaphane at a dose (1.33 mg/day in each xenograft [volume, %u223C7 ml]; 0.19 mg/ml) that can be achieved in the human diet (100 mg/day [stomach volume, 0.5 to 1 liter]; 0.1 to 0.2 mg/liter). Thus, the administration of sulforaphane that can be safely delivered in the diet, particularly from broccoli sprouts, could be beneficial for the treatment of H. pylori-associated gastric diseases.
- Use antimicrobial herbs: Cayenne, Turmeric, Cumin
Herbal or naturalistic treatment of ulcers includes the use of cayenne pepper and licorice root, among other things. Since the population of Thailand has little or no Hpylori-caused stomach ulcers, this has lead to the belief that eating cayenne pepper is an effective H-pylori preventive. Thai children begin eating small amounts of cayenne pepper when very young and increase their intake as they age. Some studies say cayenne kills the bacteria and stimulates mucous lining development in the stomach and intestine."Replies
01/29/2012: Heloise from Detroit, Michigan replies: "In an attempt to clear the stomach of urea I spit out all saliva and mucous formation in my mouth. If and to what extent this reduces the urea level in the stomach is not certain.
H. pylori expresses the highest level of urease seen in bacteria. The urease activity was recognized as an important parameter enabling acid survival early on in reasearch on the gastric mechanisma of H. Pylori. (Modlin I. M. , Sachs G. Acid related diseases: biology and treatment. Philadelphia: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins; 2004. P. 467)
Urea is a major end product of nitrogen metabolism by mammals. Diffusing from the blood through mucosal tissues and into the gastrointestinal tract. [... ] By metabolozing urea, H. Pylori is naturally acid resistant. [... ] When urea is added to H. Pylori cell suspensions at low pH values (down to 2. 0), bacterial survival is enhanced 10^3 - 10^6-fold compared with that in suspensions without urea, and survival is associated with rapid alkalinization of the suspensions by urease. (Brodgen, K. A. , Roth, J. A. , Stanton, T. B. , e. A. Virulence mechanisms of bacterial pathogens. Washington, D. C. : ASM Press; 2000. P. 69)
Conclusion of a study by W. H. Wang e. A. (doi:10.1136/gut.52.4.490): Aspirin inhibited the growth of H pylori, suppressed the mutagenic effect of metronidazole, and enhanced the susceptibility of H pylori to antimicrobial agents.
- Drink liquorice tea
- Chew mastic gum / eat mastic powder
- Increase stomach acidity with vitamin C
- Take aspirin in low doses
Be careful with the dosage: A study by E. S. Huang e. A. (doi:10.1016/j.amjmed.2010.12.022) concludes: Regular aspirin use is associated with gastrointestinal bleeding. Risk seems more strongly related to dose than duration of aspirin use. Efforts to minimize adverse effects of aspirin therapy should emphasize using the lowest effective dose among both short- and long-term users.
We showed that H. Pylori can be eradicated from human gastric xenografts after short-term administration of sulforaphane at a dose (1. 33 mg/day in each xenograft [volume, %u223C7 ml]; 0. 19 mg/ml) that can be achieved in the human diet (100 mg/day [stomach volume, 0. 5 to 1 liter]; 0. 1 to 0. 2 mg/liter). Thus, the administration of sulforaphane that can be safely delivered in the diet, particularly from broccoli sprouts, could be beneficial for the treatment of H. pylori-associated gastric diseases.
- Take bismuth subgallate pills or pepto-bismol
- Eat broccoli sprouts or broccoli
Herbal or naturalistic treatment of ulcers includes the use of cayenne pepper and licorice root, among other things. Since the population of Thailand has little or no Hpylori-caused stomach ulcers, this has lead to the belief that eating cayenne pepper is an effective H-pylori preventive. Thai children begin eating small amounts of cayenne pepper when very young and increase their intake as they age. Some studies say cayenne kills the bacteria and stimulates mucous lining development in the stomach and intestine."
- Use antimicrobial herbs: Cayenne, Turmeric, Cumin
The double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial study by Lian Zang e. A. (DOI: 10.1111/j.1523-5378.2005.00301.x) into the efficacy of cranberry juice on Helicobacter pylori infection concluded:
- Drink cranberry juice
Regular consumption of cranberry juice can suppress H. pylori infection in endemically afflicted populations.
A study by Paolo Ruggiero e. A. "To investigate whether red wine and green tea could exert anti-H pylori or anti-VacA (VacA is a pore-forming toxin produced by H. Pylori) activity in vivo in a mouse model of experimental infection" (ISSN 1007-9327 CN 14-1219/R):
- Take red wine and green tea
Red wine and green tea are able to prevent H pylori-induced gastric epithelium damage, possibly involving VacA inhibition. This observation supports the possible relevance of diet on the pathological outcome of H pylori infection.
Conclusion of a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial by B. May e. A. (DOI: 10.1046/j.1365-2036.2003.01522.x) "to assess the efficacy and safety of enteric coated capsules containing a fixed combination of 90 mg peppermint oil and 50 mg caraway oil (PCC; Enteroplant) in patients with functional dyspepsia.":
- Drink peppermint tea to treat dyspepsia
These results demonstrate the good tolerability and the favourable risk-benefit ratio of PCC for the treatment of functional dyspepsia. And another study by B. May concludes "In our trial, however, H. pylori-positive patients given PCC showed a substantially better treatment response, and there were no interpretable differences in treatment outcome between the two sub-groups given placebo."
Try to incorporate as many of available treatments as you can into your daily diet to improve the long-term outcome of H. pylori infection.
When I feel my stomach burning or stinging in the night I take vitamin C to increase acidity which seems to stop the pain by killing the bacterium. I also take aspirin which might improve the susceptibility to various treatments. Cranberry juice, red wine, peppermint- and liquorice tea also seem to improve the treatment."