"The brand of flower remedy that you use to prevent herpes outbreaks is extremely important as most brands are not potent enough to have a curative effect. Click here for more information about why this is so.

No, we don't sell flower remedies on this site (or any products for that matter), but you can purchase them directly from the USA/Canada distributor: http://www.fesflowers.com/healing_herbs.htm

or the UK manufacturer: http://www.healingherbs.co.uk/

Of the 38 Bach flower remedies, we suggest trying the Healing Herb brand of holly and walnut in a combination form (ie., a 1 oz stock bottle filled with water and 4 drops each of holly and walnut) to prevent an outbreak of genital herpes.

IMPORTANT NOTE: We cannot stress this enough. PLEASE make sure you use the Healing Herb from Hereford, England brand of flower remedies. The other english brand of flower remedies will not work for herpes even though they are great for other conditions.

Question: 1/22/2008: Jesse from Kamloops, BC, Canada writes: "Hey, This website is amazing!! I've been reading about the flower remedies for herpes and I'm very interested in it but I went to my health food store and they don't carry the Hereford England brand. I went on the website to look for it and they say they don't ship to Canada or US, where can I get it?? Thanks!!"

EC: The USA distributor is fesflowers.com.
http://www.fesflowers.com/healing_herbs.htm

4/26/2007: M from Cleveland, OH writes: "Hey everyone, thanks for the great advice regarding the holly and walnut treament for genital herpes. I am in the begining stages of trying it out. Quick question... I have the 1 oz mixing bottle to put the drops in. Once I fill the bottle with water and add the 4 drops, do I use that diluted water until the bottle is empty or do I continue to put 4 drops in each time I am going to take it? Thanks again for all of the help."

EC: No need to keep adding the drops every time you take it. Use the dropper bottle until it is empty, then sterilize it in boiling water for 10 minutes and fill it up again with water and add 4 drops. The remedies last for ages when you do it this way and are just as potent!

10/1/2006: V asks, "Are you applying the diluted form directly to an infected area? Or are you taking that solution internally? How long should someone follow this treatment regimen? I did order the correct Bach herbs, I just need to know how exactly to use them. Thank you."

EC: Do both. During an outbreak, apply the diluted drops directly onto the outbreak area several times a day. Also take 4 drops internally at least 4x a day. You can stop the external treatment once the area heals, but continue taking the drops for several months. After that, you can probably just take the drops as needed (ie., the moment you feel an outbreak coming on, do internal and external applications.)

10/3/2006: N from Jersey City, NJ writes, "The bach flower remedies for genital herpes definitely seemed like it helped! A question- i understand that one is to take 4 drops internally, 4 times daily. does that mean 4 drops of the diluted solution, or four un-diluted drops from each bottle? thanks!

EC: We suggest taking 4 drops of the diluted solution. You can actually take as much as you want of the diluted solution -- this is just a minimum dosage suggestion (per the websites that sell the flower remedies). Easiest is to take a dropperful every 6-8 hours for the first few weeks, then taper down to once or twice a day.

1/12/2007: Melinda from Arlington, VA writes "Can you use the herb brand of holly and walnut if you are allergic to walnuts? If not, is there another Brand of Bach flower remedy?"

EC: Sorry, not sure. You would have to ask the manufacturer. We would try taking just Holly and see if that worked.

11/13/2006: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "For this week, I am doing experiments on the efficacy of zinc acetate and magnesium chloride solutions against genital herpes virus and herpes simplex virus. It took me only two days to cure my aunt, but hope to reduce that to only one day would be nice. However, she was suffering months using the typical hospital meds (it is actually almost a year but who's counting?) I also found that zinc acetate and magnesium chloride solution (and some fulvic acid) effectively stopped food poisoning due to bacteria. So I guess it is great for stomach ailments.

With this treatment, Herpes is gone within a day, but the virus can remain dormant for a month. I haven't got the science of virus down to a tee how long they can remain dormant. This is true of any viruses, whether they are AIDs or even Herpes simplex. You still need to keep applying the solution of Zinc Chloride and Magnesium Chloride at least 4 times a day and do it for at least a month.

The exact measurement for the herpes simplex cure is a 5% concentration of Zinc Chloride and a 5% concentration of Magnesium Chloride. This is the simplest formula that is most easy to remember. Viruses take a long time to kill because they hide inside your body.

To quicken the kill so they can no longer hide dormant, you should take 25-50 mg. of zinc acetate for a week alternatively. This means take this one week on and take it one week off. Do this for about two months.

The other thing is you need to alkalize taking at least 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water twice a day. Once in the evening and once in the morning on an empty stomach. It is done to avoid possible interactions with salty foods which causes diarrhea or loose stools. What I can say is this formula works better than any meds in the market that I know of. It is not a perfect formula, but it is still the best. The formula do needs some improvement, but of course I often face the reality of constraints."

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "The easiest treatment and simplest treatment for herpes is to use fresh olive leaf or use olive leaf extract. However, in practice I used more than one just to make sure they don't come back again.

Since I am talking about olive leaf, this is also used against Epstein-Barr Virus and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome as well, due to its antiviral properties. As a result, I have cut and paste portions describing in more details the oleuropeins found in olive leaf -- see below. I suspect that olive leaf extract when mixed with apple cider vinegar would increase its antiviral potency, especially when you have the common colds or pneumonia coming.

For those already against vaccination the olive leaf can be eaten regularly as a protection against other deadly viral diseases as well."

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "Try about 1-2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar three times a day. If it is too sour for you, mix it in water. I do have some reservations about using honey but if necessary you may add it. If you can get a good clear solution of colloidal silver it is really helpful for herpes conditions. While most help will be from olive leaf, it is best that you take whatever you have with you.

The secret to alleviating your herpes has a lot to do with your diet as it affects your immune system. Most important is to avoid sugar completely, especially avoid soda pop, shakes, candies, cookies, cakes, and ice cream. These are main sources of sugar which fuels viral growth and shuts down your immunity system for about 2-3 hours. [** Earth Clinic's additional note: completely AVOID any diet products containing aspartame as this ingredient can trigger a herpes outbreak within hours.**]

Secondly avoid all fried foods, and fast foods, these harm the liver with needed toxins, and most obvious is smoking and drinking. Alcoholic drinks destroys the liver by hardening it. Vegetable oils and margarine are the worse offenders as they are both hydrogenated and trans fatty acid, which is forbidden by farmers in feeding pigs. Pigs will die from hardening of arteries if you feed pigs with vegetable oil rich foods. Eating just fresh vegetables -uncooked and unsweetened salad dressing, such as olive oil and lemon. Partially boiled eggs is helpful as it contains lecithin and will help the liver recover. Take some zinc supplements, especially zinc acetate and/or zinc gluconate as these zinc compounds are strongly antiviral. One secret to curing herpes that my friend mentioned sometime ago, is to take aspirin twice a day along with a strong black coffee. For some reason, aspirin has been shown to be strongly antiviral. If it wasn't for aspirin with some caffeine, my sister would have died of pneumonia. For some reason, authorities do not like using aspirin, but they do work on herpes just as well.

You have to understand that there are many antiviral natural therapies, but they are not many in the drugs stores because they are harder to synthesize and patent them, such as apple seed or apricot seeds. These two are also helpful against the herpes virus also. Take between 1-3 apricots seeds a day. Most health stores carry them, but get them from your supermarket, as fresh apricot seeds are your best bet. Get some pliers to break open the shell, however.

If you do many of these recommendations, your condition should improve within a month or two (worse case scenario)."

Question: Is it safe to take colloidal silver and olive leaf extract together?

"Yes, it's o.k. to take them together. Also frequency of intake (taken every 3-6 hours for example) rather than the amount we take is what kills a virus from reproducing. Viruses reproduce back to their normal population within about 4-6 hours. So if the frequency during the first weeks' of intake might be every three hours, when the viruses weaken you can stretch it to say 5-6 hours, this is just an example.)

Once your conditions are gone you must continue taken them at least more 3 months to kill all the residual viruses hidden in your body before there is a real cure. That's really the secret. Take plenty of rest, stay away from fried foods, sugar, soft drinks, tea, get plenty of rest, stay away from stress, and avoid overcooked foods at all costs, and any vaccinations (flu, etc.) as the vaccination for some reason destroys your natural immunity (thimerosal) as your present conditions are already weakened, so additional vaccine is usually detrimental due to accumulation of additional heavy metal toxins.

Re: Fresh Olive Leaf

"Unfortunately most herb stores do not have fresh olive leaf. If your local store has one, its great. If you can't find one, go to a Plant Nursery -- they might have a olive tree you can grow one at your home. This is what I did. I grow my own olive leaf tree. And yes, it is best that you take it along with apple cider
vinegar as it also have antiviral properties.

When you buy an olive tree from a nursery, I would prefer you to buy a large olive tree already. This way you do not have to wait for it to grow. You can use it immediately.

Preparation: Get fresh young leaf from olive tree. 4-5 leaves will do. Wash them clean and you may put them in a blender, mixed with fruit juices, etc. Storein a refrigerator. For me, I keep things simple. I eat them directly after I wash the leaf clean. In Thailand, we eat lots of them as a delicacy or part of a meal, much like salads in the U.S., although the salad dressing are very different here."

Links: http://alternative-medicine-message-boards.info/viewtopic.php?t=1031"Olive Leaf fights the Herpes Virus-

In 1969 the research of Dr. Renis working with the Upjohn company, proved that a compound of oleuropein from the olive leaf could kill all viruses, including the herpes virus, against which it was tested. The virucidal activity of oleuropein was due to its interaction with the protein coat of the virus and not with its genetic material. Ref. 1.

In 1992 French biologists working at the Laboratoire de Pharmacognosie, Faculte de Pharmacie in Rennes France, found that all of the herpes viruses were inhibited or killed by extracts from olive leaf. They supported their findings by citing 28 references to the virucidal qualities of oleuropein in their report. Ref. 2.

Olive Leaf reduces Chronic Fatigue Syndrome-

In the U.S.A. the use of olive leaf extract has become very popular with doctors, naturopaths and the general public where it is being prescribed for the symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).

CFS is associated with immune dysfunction, which allows infections with a variety of opportunistic microbes from herpes-viruses, retro viruses, fungi and parasites.

Many sufferers will have an overgrowth of the yeast Candida albicans, along with a chronic active infection with the Epstein-Barr Virus ( EBV or glandular fever ).

By the end of early adulthood almost everyone has detectable levels of EBV anti-bodies in their blood, meaning that they have at some stage, been invaded by this virus. In those with a healthy immune system the virus is kept in a dormant or latent state and does not produce any symptoms.

If the host's immune system becomes weakened or overloaded the glandular fever virus (Epstein- Barr Virus-EBV) begins to reactivate and cause disease.

EBV belongs to the herpes family of viruses, and all herpes viruses tend to reactivate in those with compromised immune systems such as in cancer, acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS ) and treatment with chemotherapy.

Dr. W.J. Martin, head of molecular immunopathology at the University of Southern California Medical Centre has found strange retro viruses called "foamy viruses" in a high percentage of patients with CFS.

These patients complained of persistent debilitating, flu-like symptoms similar to CFS. Other viruses that are being studied as possible causes of CFS are HTLV-2, entero-viruses such as the polio virus, herpes-virus type VI and the cytomegalovirus.

These kinds of viruses reside in most people but are kept in a dormant state by our immune systems.

Until the virus fighting properties of olive leaf extract were recently rediscovered and proved, there has been very little specific treatment to overcome virally induced CFS. Now it is possible to fight these viruses by taking sufficient quantities of olive leaf extract capsules in repeated doses.

It is the hydrolyzed components of elenolic acid with its calcium elenolate salt that are bound by nature into the structure of the olive leaf that are able to fight these viruses so effectively."

[YEA]  10/10/2008: Nina from Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada writes: "Just had an GH outbreak after going 9 years without one! It was a small cluster on the outside labia (not on the mucous membrane) I was devastated and didnt want to have to go through weeks of pain. I was willing to try anything, and i did! I tried the acetone remover trick and IT WORKED. I pressed a q tip to the small cluster of sores that had not broken open yet, about 10 times yesterday and kept the area VERY DRY with cornstarch all day and night. Today, they are healing over and almost gone! they didnt break open, they didnt scab over, they didnt get any bigger...they are healing and almost gone. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!"

[YEA]  12/10/2008: PJ from Gold Coast, Queensland Australia writes: "Hi,, I only found your site last week, and was very very interested to read what others suffering with H2,had found to be beneficial, then as luck or not would have it, i had an OB, stress driven i think, i take a valtrex daily, multi-vite, and try to eat healthy, etc ,, normally my OB'S take up to 4-8 days to fade and go away , but i feel dirty and out of sorts, it is really a strange feeling, anyway i tried the acetone nail polish remover,, dabbed it onto the dam thing,3-4 times a day ,, bought a bottle of lysine, threw back about 3 grams a day, and doubled my valtrex for 3 days, and ill tell you, it started to fade the next day , smoothed out, and started to shrink, i can only really put it down to the acetone nail polish remover, didnt sting, but tingled a bit,, who ever thought that up,, give them a medal, you need the preventative stuff for sure, but when OB happen, use the nail polish remover,, dam good stuff"

07/07/2011: Suckered from Las Vegas, Nv writes: "This will be long because I scoured the net looking for all details. I want to help people figure out what they have and what helped me. I had unprotected sex on 6/18. Felt sick right away but thought I was just hung over. After spending a day at the beach on 6/21 I felt like I had sever sun exhaustion. For the next 3 days I had a bad fever off and on. I noticed what I thought was a canker sore inside my lower lip. By Friday I started to suspect I had herpes and was noticing evidence of one or two sores on my genitals (Im female).

After searching online I was sure but it was now a Saturday. I called different clinics but had to wait weeks to get in. By Monday I was in the midst of a full outbreak! Sores all over my labia and anus and mouth. I was very, very distressed and even at moments sucidal.

On Saturday I started to try EVERY thing I could find online. L-Lysine, Abreve with Tylenol pm (this worked for easing pain) baking soda, peroxide, aloe, Bachs flower essences, garlic cloves, garlic oil, tea tree oil, and carmex. I also tried baths with epsom salts and peroxide. None of these remedies had any visible results. Carmex was very useful for when I had to do physical activities. It eased the pain and protected the area. When I finally saw a doctor, 7 days after exposure, I was perscribed generic Zovirax (Acyclovir). It was only $11. I also started soaking cotton in ACV and keeping it on the sores for as long as I could. Sometimes a few hours.

Within 2 or 3 days I finally saw good results. I also took a multivitamin, vitamin D and Lysine to boost my immune system and quit drinking coffee and nuts. For inside my mouth I used listerine mixed with peroxide a few times a day and rinsed with salt water too. It is now 7/6 and I have one sore left on my genitals and my mouth is almost all healed. I got the results of my blood test and found out that I tested negative for HSV2 and positive for HSV1 even though my outbreak was mostly (and severely) on my genitals. This, I think, was due to oral sex. My partner was not aware that he had herpes. He had no visible sores. He was not honest about how many unprotected sex partners he had but he was very understanding and supportive when I told him that he gave me herpes. This was a hard lesson for me to learn not to trust people so freely with my body. I got through it by reading the supportive and loving messages on here. The first really is the worst but soon it will be over and behind you! Be strong."

03/08/2010: Cured from Windy City, Usa replies: "I understand how great the results of ACV can be but why no one is mentioning, or maybe no one knows that Oil of Oregano kills the virus that causes any kind of herpes outbreaks. I know we have been fed the idea that there isn't a cure for it but please check around the web and see what others have to say about the effects of Oil of Oregano to herpes virus. You can take the oil of oregano both orally and apply it topically. You could find it in any health food store and even cheaper over the net.

Some argue that Oil of Oregano works so well because it kills fungal cells and infections and many think herpes infection is similar to fungal ones therefore it would be hard if not close to impossible to kill it with traditional antibiotic prescriptions.

So, do your homework and find out what others have to say. Take the recommended dose orally and apply with a qt topically. Healing should begin immediately. Take the oil orally for up to 20 days to kill the core of the infection (Inside of you, usually within the nerves system, and you may never ever have to deal with this disease again.

Try combining with L-Lysine and ACV and stay away from red wine, chocolate, and citrus fruit during the time of the treatment. Alcohol, cigarettes and coffee would not be helpful either.

P.S. try to find a good source of oregano oil. Some brands are better then others. Again, do your homework if you want to be free from suffering. I wish you health and happiness and I send you love and blessings.

Namas te."

08/27/2010: Earthgirl from Atlanta, Ga, Usa replies: "Hi, I just wanted to verify if the Oil of Oregano actually cured your HSV2 Virus or is it just maintaining the outbreak? Basically are you virus free now? Did you go back to the doctor to have test done to see if it is still in your system, the reason that I ask is b/c I was told that there is no cure and that you live with it for the rest of your life. Thank you so much for sharing the info that you've previously provided, it's a huge help!"

09/19/2010: Jc from Seattle, Usa replies: "Was curious how long it takes for the Oil of Oregano to completely kill the infection, since it was mentioned that it takes 20 days for it to kill the 'core of the infection'? Thanks."

12/27/2011: Leyla from Columbia Falls, Mt replies: "Just wanted to share my success story with oregano oil to give others hope as it really is key in fighting off this nasty problem. Mind you, the post will be a bit long.

I hooked up with my ex-boyfriend of one and a half years before he moved away for school. One night. Bad idea. I had of course imagined he had been seeing other people since we weren't together, but I never, EVER expected to contract STIs from him. He left me with both genital herpes and genital warts.

Now I also have had gastroinestinal problems since the age of 13, and it has left my immune system in horrible condition. I cannot stress how bad my outbreaks were. Every single one lasted for a minimum of three and a half weeks. I'd be clear for 3-4 days, then it would return again. Each outbreak was just as bad--if not worse--than the last. There would always be a period where the pain and itching was so severe that I was unable to walk. The warts were equally bad, and anytime I had them removed, they'd be back within a single week of the skin healing over. This went on for about 10 months, and it was definitely the worst period of my life. The emotional suffering is really the worst part of it all.

From my very first herpes rash I had begun taking mass amounts of supplements. Olive leaf extract, bitter melon, andrographis, echinacea, astralagus, ginger, Lysine, red marine algae, monolaurin, coconut oil... You name it, I've tried it. Even acupuncture and chinese herbs. It didn't seem to do much of anything. Applying tea tree oil, propolis, or melissa oil on the rash burned like hell, and would help with the pain and itching temporarily but the outbreaks were still just as long. One particular outbreak, I remember not taking anything, just to see what would happen. The rash persisted for nearly 7 weeks. Sorry for rambling but I really want to emphasize how bad my condition was.

I hadn't tried the oregano oil, as it was pretty expensive. I read that it tasted bad and I'm a total wimp. Can't even take cough medidcine I'm so sensitive to taste. On top of that, I believed my doctor when he told me there was no cure so I thought the whole Cure in a Cupboard thing was just a scam. One day I just decided why not give it a try, I've already thrown thousands down the drain in supplements so another couple hundred won't hurt.

Orderd super strength in a small bottle. Begun with the protocol, which was 5 drops under the tongue twice daily. At first, I had to do it in 1 or 2 drops at a time. My eyes would water and my mouth would start salivating like crazy from the burn, but it was by no means unbearable. Hold it under the tongue for as long as you can then wash it down with water. Over time, I increased my dosage. I had no bad side effects, but I believe that was due to me taking the olive leaf extract everyday. I got INSANE die-off reaction the first time I took that stuff, I was shaking with chills and fever and vomitting for 3 days with OLE.

As a side note, I read somewhere that a small bottle lasts you a long time. It barely lasted 2 weeks for me! Buy the bigger one if you're going to try it. I started upping it to 5 drops under the tongue 3 times a day within about 2 weeks. After a month, 4 times a day. Usually 8-10 drops. Experts can't seem to agree on a safe dosage for this stuff so just work your way up slowly. For the first 2 months of taking it, I noticed no improvement in my state. I got discouraged, but I remembered reading that it takes 1-3 months to heal so I stuck to it.

Just past the 2 month point, I suffered from the worst outbreak I have ever had. It covered a massive area, my genitals and it even went down a bit into my anal area. It was bright red. I remember crying myself to sleep one night the pain was so severe. But something surprising happened. It cleared up in about 8 days. That was the shortest outbreak I have ever had, and it was also my last.

That was 2 months ago, and to this day, I still have not had another outbreak. Oregano oil has been a miracle worker for me. I know a lot of people are going to question it being healed without a DNA test. I've gotten a few done in the first stages of my infection, and even though I was 100% positive I had genital herpes my tests would come back negative. (Both blood test and a swab of a lesion) So doctor's tests aren't as reliable as you may think.

I don't need a test to tell me I'm cured, I know I am. I continued to take the oregano oil for a full 4 months. Not one day did I miss a dosage, as I was completely determined to rid myself of this virus. My advice to you is to try it. And take it in LIQUID under the tongue if you want results!!! Best way to get it absorbed into your bloodstream. I'm no doctor, just an average 21 year old girl that suffered from the same problem as everyone else on this board. If it worked for me, I'm sure it can work for someone else. I wish good health and best of luck to all of you."

01/19/2012: Musiclover from Philadelphia, Pa replies: "What brand of Oil of Oregano did you use???"

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