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Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Banana Stems
- Chanca Piedra
- Cinnamon, Cloves, Ginger, Apple Juice
- Coconut Oil
- Dietary Changes
- Epsom Salt
- Figs, Turmeric
- Gallbladder Cleanses
- Gallbladder Polyps
- General Feedback
- Gravel Root
- Juice Therapy
- Laser Surgery
- Lemon Water
- Lemon, Digestive Enzymes
- Magnesium Chloride
- Milk Thistle
- Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Magnesium
- Multiple Remedies
- Olive Oil and Lemon Juice
- Olive Oil and Lemon Juice, Dietary Changes
- Olive Oil, Hot Milk
- Olive Oil, Supplements
- Phyllanthus Niruri (Quebra Pedra)
- Produce Bile
- Remedies Needed
- Soluble Fiber
- Spring Water
- Swedish Bitters
- Ted's Remedies
- Yi Dan
12/12/2009: Tasha from Springfield, Usa: "re: gall stones with no gallbladder
I have read all the posts on gallstones and the flushes, but my story is a bit different and i am in desperate need of help. 2 years ago i had my gallbladder removed because of stones. within 3 months the pains were back and i have 2 stones lodged in my common bile duct. The pains are unbearable and i have just dealt with them for almost 2 years now. I have seen a doctor they did a MRI and that is how they found the stones in my bile duct. they want to go in and take them out by putting a tube down my throat and making a cut in my bile duct, but i am weary of having this procedure done. My question is, is their a way of getting them out without the surgeries and will it be safe? The doctors said they are very close to my pancreas and it can cause pancreatitis and liver disease if i keep putting off having them removed, i am just done with dealing with this pain i am only 29 years old and the pains feel like im giving birth.The pains are now coming more often and lasting longer than they have before, and advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the wonderful site earth clinic"Replies
12/13/2009: Elisabeth from Malmö, Sweden replies: "You could try the herb Chanca piedra, also known as Stone breaker. Available in tablets and as tea. I don't know if one is to prefer over the other. Maybe someone else on the forum would know. You will get a lot of information if you google it. Best wishes"
12/13/2009: Phil from Dearing, Ga replies: "Hello Tasha. My wife had her gallbladder removed and she will get these very bad pains and nausea from time to time. What we have had sucess with, as far as the pain and nausea go. We use one glass ( 8oz ) of room tenperture apple juice with a shot glass or 2 tablespoons of raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar. Mix and drink. Her pain goes away completly in 30 minutes and she will start to feel better within just a few minutes of drinking this.
I DO NOT know if this disolves the stones or not, but the pain does stop for her every time, so far! In some of my research, I DO remember it being stated that the apple juice helps soften the stones.
I have read alot on gallbladder/liver cleanses and it seems, that people who's gallbladders have already been removed still develope stones in thier BILE DUCTS...So one of the key ingredants in a CLEANSE is lots of APPLE JUICE about 3 days before the cleanse. and then there are some other things one must do...EPSOM SALT and OLIVE OIL, GRAPEFRUIT JUICE ( FRESHLY SQUEEZED ).
I can't give you the step by step details of this, because I can't remember them in full, but if you do some research on here and on other websites...You should find the cleanse that would best suite you...SO just do some research and good luck, DON"T FORGET TO USE GOOGLE, I am able to find out almost anything using it.
12/13/2009: Carolyn from Hobbs, Nm Usa replies: "Response from Tasha: Tasha, the _____ Apple Cider Vinegar book has a great gallbladder and liver cleanse in it. It flushes the liver and gallbladder. I surely would try a flush before you do what that doctor wants to do. My niece had that done and she ended up in the hospital for 3 months with Pancreatitis. At least get a different opinion from another doctor. I can't even tell you what the doctors have done to me and now I only do the natural cures. God bless and good luck. Carolyn"
12/13/2009: Celteyes from Pearland, Texas replies: "I would recommend anyone with gallbladder problems to do the cleanse. In 2000 before I ever knew anything about natural medicine. I had a gallbladder attack and let them put me in the hospital and remove it. Before they did that they gave me a test that caused dye to go into my pancreas. I almost died. Literally. My doctor was white with nerves everytime he came to see me. Kept apologizing profusely. I had never been so sick in my life. Was in the hospital a month. Thankfully I finally got well but never had the brains to investigate natural medicine until diagnosed with breast cancer the next year.
Hey folks you can't improve on God's creation. Everything we need is in nature. Well...I guess if I broke a bone I would let an M.D. set it! hee hee"
12/15/2009: Tasha from Springfield, Usa replies: "i may have been a little unclear on my question. So these cleanses are safe for me to do even if the stones are in my bile duct? my worry is if i do the cleanse where are these gallstones going to go, hopefully not to my pancreas and yes they want to do the procedure right away and use the dye that can cause pancreaitis. i was suppose to have it done Dec. 2 but when i got their to register i found that my insurance was cancelled due to my husband being laid off work but the doctor keeps calling me to reschedule. i just want these things gone. But if these cleanses are safe for me to do without haveing a gall bladder then it is worth a try. thanks for all the feedback, Tasha"
12/16/2009: Carolyn from Hobbs, Nm, Usa replies: "Tasha, the stones will go into your stomach and you may even see them in your stool when they leave your body. They will not go into your pancreas. Try the cleanse. What have you got to loose. You may save yourself from that surgery and a lot more issues after the surgery. It surely won't hurt you to try. Good luck and God Bless. Carolyn"
12/31/2009: Tasha from Ohio, Usa replies: "Thanks for all the feedback, but just wanted to give an update on my gallstones that are stuck in my bile duct. I did the epsom salt, olive oil and lemon juice flush and had no luck, i hear you sometimes have to do it more than once but i personally do not think i will ever be able to drink any of that stuff again it was absolutely horrible i bearly got it down, but i will try some other things that are mentioned,if any thing works i will post another update."
01/13/2010: Debra from Marengo, In replies: "I also detest the stuff but have found grapefruit mixes well with the olive oil, shake up good and use a straw to drink it down. Do it quick and this helps"
01/30/2010: Vivi from Atlanta, Ga replies: "First time I did the liver flush with olive oil and lemon juice, I added some salt to the mixture, and shake it well. Salt changes taste of the liquid. I make my own salad dressing with olive oil, lemon juice, salt and some herbs, with less of olive oil. Try a few times to make a dressing like that and see if you tolerate it. Later on you may better accept the liver flush olive oil shake."
08/16/2009: Nazar Abid Farhan from Nasssiriyah, Iraq: "I was test today and found to have a small multiple stone in the gallbladder. what i need is to get medicine smash or break up that stone without resorting to surgery and remove the bile. I am 56 years old and having no other ailment whatsoever. Pls infom what to do???
NAZAR ABID FARHAN...IRAQ."
08/17/2009: Philip from Dearing, Ga replies: "I don't know if this disolves gallstones or not,but this will ward off a gallstone ATTACK.When you have pain from the gallstones.Get you one glass of room temperture apple juice and a shot glass or 2 tablespoons of RAW apple cider viniger and drank it down. Pain should ease off and go away.
My wife had her gallbladder removed, because of stones after her last pregancy. At the time I did not know of this remedy.We have learned that people STILL GET gallstones in their ducts, after the gallbladder is removed.
When these attacts occur,she does the applejuice/apple cider viniger and it disappears everytime.
Removal of the gallbladder will not stop symptoms or pain.You will continue to have attacks and coffee ground looking diarrhea. Apple juice/viniger will stop this.
I believe Ted tells of some ways to disolve the stones on this site.You will have to read and do searches here on earth clinic.
03/19/2013: Rei from Venice, Fl, Usa: "Stevenson & Carole: I found a very interesting website and hope you'll have some time to take a look. It's a journey that one man took to save his gallbladder as well. While he has not had a follow up scan, he states that he is completely symptom free. I may incorporate some of his suggestions while keeping up with my bean consumption.
I don't know about how you both handled this, but I'm finding it extremely hard to eat anything more than these beans! Other than my morning coffee and cream which I absolutely can not give up. That is my drug of choice! I grind my beans every morning and when I want true decedance, I enjoy my cream and espresso's with my Nespresso machine. Granted, I cut my consuption down to 2 cups a day, but I refuse to give it up. :-)
Carole, I'm a bit concerned about the tamarind. Although I actually have tamarind paste in my pantry as I type, I did a very brief search and found that while it helps the liver, it is not so good for one that has gallstone issues. Here are 2 links that I stumbled across. Perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly? http://www.botanical-online.com/english/tamarind_properties.htm & http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16041099
I did however come across some unnerving info in regards to legumes and gallbladder, which I would like some input/opinioins. I will continue this regimen knowing what Stevenson has experienced, but still somewhat concerned.
Let me know what you think...
Thanks, Rei :-)"Replies
03/19/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc, Canada replies: "Rei, thanks for your info. I will read the links you posted tonight, but don't be discouraged. I have read so many pages about all the things we should not eat as they will give us more problems with gallstones etc etc and I just decided that I don't want to restrict myself that way. I should be able to eat healthy food and not just cut away everything that seems ok to eat. By stumbling on the legumes regime, it made the most sense to me and has worked wonders that I could have never imagined for my body. The results speak for themselves.
As far as having a hard time eating more than the beans, well, I just mixed my veges, fruit etc in the bean portions so when I had the six times a day beans, it also included everything else I needed, so I was just fine. It takes a little bit of discipline, but not much. Every other day, I had a little oats with blueberries as well, as I was already full from my bean dishes."
03/20/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex,, England replies: "You have certainly posted a lot of relevant information which I have only had time to quickly scan. I will read more thoroughly at the weekend. Some of the information is completely at odds with other comments I have read.
As to tamarind.... it was posted here and when I looked it was good for 'gallbladder disorders' and also for lowering cholesterol.
I settled get confuddled by all the information.
As to eating the beans.... I find it hard to eat the six portions spread throughout the day.... Which is complete contradiction to the protocol I had just started.... Trying to reduce the number of smaller meals to 'encourage the gallbladder to fill completely between meals.
As to coffee.... consumption of moderate amounts of coffee (weith or without caffeine) and/or other herbs that promote bile flow.
I will comment further when I have read all your postings... thank you.
Gallby has done exceptionally well! Wish he had the scan though.
p.s. Having problems typing this up - not sure what will appear?"
03/20/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc, Canada replies: "Rei, thanks again for the links you posted. My scan is April 8, so lets see what it shows and then go from there I guess. Dr. Oz this week talked about soluble fiber and just how important it is for us and my case confirms this too. He mentioned I think it was one week a month to go a week with as much soluble fiber as you can, so he must know something those links you posted perhaps missed?
The internet can drive me nuts sometimes as there will always be someone somewhere bashing everything that is healthy for us, so I do my best to try and keep an open mind and use good reason and go from there."
04/15/2013: Rei from Venice, Fl, Usa replies: "Stevenson & Carole,
It's been a quite some time since I've been here. I was doing well on the bean protocol, but fell off the bandwagon about 2 weeks ago. Here in the US it's "tax time", so my schedule has been ridiculous to say the least (I am a bookkeeper w/several clients). Today is the deadline, and I just remembered to file for myself!
Although I fell off schedule, I have managed to have beans every day. I've cleaned up my diet pretty well, adding tons of fresh raw veggies, Quinoa, and I have had very little animal products. In the last month, I've had a 2 meals with actual animal meat, per se. I had a few shrimp one night and some chicken another. Up until this weekend, I have felt complete relief of any nagging pain and discomfort. Then came the pizza, with all the cheese and fat. I paid dearly for that move. Obviously I need to get back on the bean protocol full force. It's a shame really, had I stuck with it completely I would be in the last segment of it.
Carole, how are you doing with things? Any noteable changes for you?
Stevenson, did you get your results back from the scan?
I've added raw beets to my food intake yesterday, after that horrid attack. Perhaps that will help me as well. Who knows..."
04/16/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex,, U.k. replies: "Hi Rei! My gb area seems fine.... If you see my post re heartburn you will see I have now started a different set of problems! ?!
I did 5 weeks of the high legume protocol and don't know if that has contributed to the heartburn problem as legumes are acidic ? So having a week off from lots of beans and then will have another go. Was waiting to hear from Stevenson- see how things went with the scan.
I didn't really get any useful feedback from Karen Hurd.... whether there is any evidence of the legume therapy actually working.
The only thing I can say from your post.... At least you know that you can do better! And what foods still create problems!
I'll let you know what my gb surgeon says after Friday. I really want to keep the gb. Sadly I was turned down for the Chinese surgery because of my wonky thyroid issues. My U. K. Surgeon says he can perform surgery to remove the stone.... But doesn't recommend it because of the increased risk of bile leakage!
I don't know some days..... what else is there to try?
03/18/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex., England: "I found this research paper very interesting... Especially the flow of liver qi. Written by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph. D.... treatment of gallstones with chinese herbs and acupuncture: www.itmoinline.org/arts/gallstones./htm
I am enjoying tamarind - so worth looking at that for gb support.
- And I like dandelion root coffee (good for bile support).
- Also, coconut is a good source of protein.
- Chia seed is also a good source of protein/fibre. a tiny seed packed full of goodness.
- I am loving my bean soup; avocado, beetroot and bean salads and salmon, rice and beans. It is so rewarding to be able to eat and not be fearful of what might happen.... as we know the pain can be very scary!
03/18/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc, Canada replies: "Carole, thanks for sharing that info! I posted yesterday here, but it never showed up. It seems the moderators pick and choose what is displayed, which is not such a good thing really. If this post gets through and anyone can recommend another site to post my ultrasound scan let me know please."
EC: Hi Stevenson, your post never came through yesterday. If you tried to attach a file, it may have been rejected by our server. Please send your post and ultrasound scan to firstname.lastname@example.org and we'll see if we can post it on the site.
03/23/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex., England replies: "Hi! I am in the process of looking at all the links re the gallstone protocol. I asked Karen Hurd for any data that would support her high fibre diet and she responded immediately with the following link.... which I share here.
Perhaps we can share any thoughts."
03/16/2013: Rei from Venice, Fl, Usa: "To Stevenson from Vancouver:
I want to thank you very much for your posting about Kathy Hurd and the legume regimen. I have suffered with gallstone/gallbladder issues most of my adult life. I am now 44 years old. I used to do flushes to help my situation, but allowed far too much time to lapse and am now very uncomfortable and in pain much of the time. I fear that my liver is also damaged due to years of unhealthy life choices, via food, drink and stress. And as a person without insurance or means to be treated by a doctor, I am left to my own devices.
I am embarking on this regimen tomorrow and have spent the entire day researching and preparing my beans. :-) I don't know if there are any "no-no's" with this diet, but I just prepared a Mexican Bean Salad that I do like very much and intend to eat other variations of beans recipes as well. It includes a total of 10. 5 cups of beans (kidney, cannellini & black), 6 cups total of diced green & red peppers, 2 red onions minced, 1/2 cup olive oil, 1/2 cup red wine vinegar, 2 TBL lemon and 4 TBL lime juice, 1 TBL cumin, 1 TSP chili pepper, 1 1/2 TBL salt, 1 TBL pepper, 4 cloves fresh mashed garlic, and 1-1/2 TBL of sugar. Are there any ingredients in here that I should steer clear from? I figure this is about 3 days worth of beans!
I am VERY interested in what your test results will show after your appointment with the doctor. Please do keep us informed! It's people like you who are willing to share their experiences that enrich this community.
03/17/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, BC, Canada replies: "Rei, I watch Dr. OZ, too and am so glad there is someone like him suggesting common sense to the masses about health. As fas as headaches goes, I used to get mine from so many foods and weather changes that I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't think beans alone did the trick, but possibly because I stopped all wheat products. I used to blame banannas, chocolate, milk products, you name it for my headaces, but the only thing I left out and never consumed again was anything containing wheat, so I may be alergic to wheat.
One thing I thought would never stop was my weather change headaches. Everytime a front would move in and we have so many this time of year, my head would just explode and I would be out for the day, but nothing, not even a minor headache. It must be overall that the legumes and my diet cleaned out my liver to such a stage that everything is working again in balance in my body.
I wish I would have known all this info 20 years ago, but I'm 53 now and can't complain at all. It's a life long quest for me now to eat healthy as firstly, I really enjoy what I eat now and feel full easy and secondly, why would I want to go back to all those terrible pains, headaches, tiredness and so on, it was like a bad dream and I never want to experience again.
And Carole, so glad you are already feeling better already."
03/17/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc, Canada replies: "Rei, you're very welcome. I think you are going to be very surprised at how rapidly our bodies heal themselves even if abused for a long time like yours and mine was. On top of my unhealthy food choices and such, the stress I had to endure I am sure did not help my body at all either. I am eagerly awaiting my scan so that I can post the results here, but if how I feel means anything, I feel like the luckiest person in the world to beat this thing.
Your choice of beans looks fine, but I stuck with the kidney beans myself as they have nearly double the fiber of the others and it is the fiber that the does the job of cleaning out our system, but according to what was posted on Kathy Hurd's site, all the beans should be fine.
As far as no-no's goes, your mix looks pretty good. I'm not sure about sugar though as when one is trying to heal oneself, sugar normally is never a good idea. I used pineapple or apples if I need some sweetness in my mix. Sugar may still be fine as the soluble fiber in the beans will be the most important factor but keep in mind though that sugar often does a lot of harm in letting natural foods do their job in your body.
If you can add avocados in their and sometimes mix it up with salmon or brown rice on other days, then you can get complete proteins as I am pretty sure beans alone are not complete proteins by themselves.
Good luck and please keep us posted. I never mentioned this before, but my constant migraines and strange body shivers never came back after starting this diet, so obviously it has more than one plus for the body."
03/17/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex,, England replies: "Good luck with your legume therapy... Please post how you are getting on. I can only comment on your bean recipe - does it cause you any problems..... The chilli would be my concern as I would not be able to cope with anything spicy?
I have been on the legume therapy (Karen Hurd) for just 9 days and I am really benefitting! I am also enjoying the challenge of bean recipes and learning about the nutritional value of the different beans - as they all taste the same to me! Fascinating, for instance, Black beans are a good source of the B vitamins and Pinto for Selenium.... and so much more.
I am so happy to have found this link and all the resources being shared.
03/17/2013: Rei from Venice, Fl, Usa replies: "Stevenson, yes I've learned through my intense research in the last few days about complete proteins and have armed myself with raw almonds, avacados, brown rice, and a large assortment of veggies! I agree with your comment in regards to sugar, and most likely could have left that out. But I figured since the dressing is pooled at the bottom of the container and after a brief mixing of my bean concoction, very little actually is being consumed. I've made this recipe before, but not for health purposes and there is usually approx 80% of the dressing still left in the container even after the entire dish has been consumed. Perhaps the next time, I'll make a smaller portion of this recipe and remove the sugar all together.
In researching, I happened to have stumbled on so much information on nutrition and coincidently (although I believe there are no real coincidences, rather a purposeful plan being played out) I also had recorded 2 shows on my DVR that spoke specifically about this way of life and eating. It was the Dr. Oz show and it highlighted how one can heal themselves through God's medicine aka food. Mostly made up of vegetables, grains, legumes and nuts, whereas meat and dairy are used simply as a condiment if you are unable to commit to ridding it from your diet.
So I've made a commitment during this 10 week period to eat 80-90% of such a diet and 10-20% of animal products if I really feel the need.
Carole: You mentioned the chili component of my salad. While I realize the chili can aggrevate my gallbladder, I added it thinking it was just a small amount and the dressing doesn't really stick to the beans. However, after I ate my 1/2 cup I did feel a bit of discomfort in my back under the right shoulder blade. Usually this means that a very uncomfortable period is about to come on and I was really worried. However, that never happened. It was just a short period of time, maybe 15 minutes, and nothing painful per se. Something was happening and I wondered if perhaps the oil is forcing the gallbladder to work a bit. If that's the case and this is the only dicomfort I will have, I'm glad to help the gallbladder along to push some of this stuff out and bind with the beans! As I noted above with the removal of sugar the next time I make this, perhaps I will remove the chili as well. I don't like spicy foods, never have. This certainly isn't spicy on any level, but I might as well try to avoid anything that causes discomfort or inflammation.
This is a new journey for me and I'm looking forward to the changes that may follow. Although I started this with the intent to treat my gallbladder and liver issues, I'm broadening my view and looking at the other things that could possibly be affected. I'm hoping that I, like Stevenson, will shed some weight, increase my energy levels, decrease some aches and pains (espesically my headaches), reduce my stress (through a conscious effort and more energy to exercise and move), and perhaps dare I say, feel younger!
Many thanks to Stevenson for sharing his knowledge and experience and Carole for posing the question, as well as others who have shared. Had I not found this post, I don't know if I would have stumbled on the other valuable information that this post inspired. Rather than feeling beaten and helpless as I have been, I have a renewed feeling of hope and optimism. That alone has been the "medicine" I've needed for some time now.
I'll try to keep notes and post my journey so others who may find themselves in my position someday, may come here and perhaps be inspired to begin their own journey. Paying it forward, so to speak. :-)"
03/17/2013: Louwrence from Rustenburg, North West, South Africa replies: "Rei, The 1st thing to do is a liverflush & you will solve a whole lot of problems, do the Hulda Clark liverflush, very simple, look on the net for the procedure."
03/09/2013: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa: "Stevenson: You may want to also consider supplementing Lecithin as it is beneficial to the digestive, bilary, circulatory, and nervous systems; an allround whole body health promoter.
Another item worth mentioning here is the amino acid Methionine which is found in abundance in legumes. Methionine, like choline (methionine actually makes choline), is a superior fat burner. After having made some inroads on hepatitis, and fungal infection in the gut, I restarted using methionine 1grm daily with profound results. My fatty liver is regressing to healthy cells and I can definitely feel this improvement. Extra methyl donors like B-6, B-12, and Folic Acid are recommended when supplementing extra Methionine."Replies
03/10/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Timh, thanks very much for your suggestions, I was thinking about lecithin for a long time and I believe it is worth taking. Do you think I have enough Methionine in my daily legumes to avoid the supplement? I was also diagnosed with a fatty liver which goes hand in hand with gallstones for many, but after my legumes 6 times a day, everything feels back to normal.
I have an ultrasound appointment for my gallbladder and bilary ducts again on April-8 so by April-15 I will post the results as my doctor will have them by then. I had to actually switch doctors as my one refused my scan. I'm not sure what that was all about, but the vibe I was getting was that she was really annoyed that I did not take her suggestion to remove my gallbladder so she paid me back by refusing to authorize a scan to see if my stones are all gone. There is some weird stuff going on around here from time to time with the doctors, but luckily my brother's doctor took me on as a patient and immediately booked a scan for me."
03/11/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex, England replies: "Good luck with the ultrascan. I use lecithin granules - not soya - and I think they help. Have a look again at the Karen Hurd site as she has it listed.
Very early days - day 4 - since starting legume protocol.... However I am happy there is less discomfort. :-)"
03/11/2013: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Stevenson: I would first try supplementing Lecithin or/and Choline/Inositol, as well as herbal liver formula. What other sources of protein are you eating??? If you are vegan, it is advised to rotate Rice w/ Legumes. Organic Dairy and Eggs would be good. Being in Vancouver, how about Salmon (great source of protein and EFA's)."
03/12/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Timh, OK will look into those right away, many thanks. For protein I get it from the legumes, brown rice, avocado and salmon mostly, so I feel fine there."
03/12/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Carole, thanks and not to worry as the discomfort gets less and less. I'm very interested what my ultrasound will show, but I can only imagine it's great news."
02/24/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc: "I have a better way that requires no flushing. I could go on and on how it has saved me from continous terrible pains from gallstones, but here is the link to where I found the information.
If you have or suspect gallstones, please give it a read as it is only one page long and for me the results were so stunning that I just want to pass this info on. It covers things that you may not find anywhere else and just involves taking soluble fiber 6 times a day (I did it every two hours using kidney or navy beans) to bind to the old bile and stones and after several weeks all the old bile and stones are flushed out of your body and your liver produces new bile and disolves everything else there after."Replies
02/26/2013: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Thanks for the info and link, Steve.
I will beg to differ as for the fiber for Gallstone treatment. As for prevention, it is standard protocol to eat high fiber diet. 500mg Taurine daily would help in detox (purification) as well as bile production. Bile insufficiency is quite often a result of Liver disease like hepatitis or fatty liver, or excessive alcohol consumption, or toooo many prescription/otc drugs. Liver support herbs would go a long ways in the prevention of gallstone.
The Dr Murry school of natural medicine recommends moderate consumption of legumes as they contain Saponins which actually increase gallstone formation. Psyllium and Oat brans are recommended here. Phosphatidylcholine is highly recommended for gallstone issues."
03/05/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, BC Canada replies: "Timh??? Obviously you did not read the one page link I posted. It clearly states how old bile attaches like a magnet to soluble fiber and flushes out of your body through your intestinal track rather than being absorbed by it and recycled back to the liver again and again which ends up creating the stones in the first place. When fresh bile is created, this is what disolves stagnant bile and stones naturally, just like fresh oil in an engine removes the sludge.
It seems so many people talk about not eating this and not eating that to avoid getting stones, when the truth is that you can eat many things as long as you keep your bile running fresh. This process not only dissolved all my stones, but made me feel and look 15 years younger as I now have a fully functioning and clear liver."
03/06/2013: Timh from Louisville, Ky, USA replies: "Stevenson: I did read the article and added that legume fibre can, according to Dr Murray, actually increase gallstone formation. I think the study or observation was an excess of legumes consumption. So I concluded in agreement with your finding, but leaned to not limiting the diet to only one type fiber. We now know a diet low in fiber will lead to gallstones and colon problems."
03/06/2013: Anon from Anon replies: "Hi, thanks for posting this information Stevenson, it is very interesting and definitely worth doing. When did you use this method? Have you been fine since? I am not a big fan of beans but would try this as I definately would benefit from an oil change. Thanks again."
03/06/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex, England replies: "Hi! Thanks for posting. I have read this article and, in discussion with somebody who is ahead of me on the dissolving/flushing protocols - and is not winning! - has tried this with no positive outcome. I will re-read the article and see if it is for me. Still doesn't answer my question.... Can anything dissolve a large calcified gallstone and has somebody been successful. So far.... I've not found anybody!
I am struggling with a high dose of Chanca Piedra at the moment - seem to do better with tincture and tea rather than capsule."
03/06/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Anon, you're welcome. I held back posting the info until I ran a full 8 weeks and was 100% fine. I started the 6 times a day beans about 2 1/2 months ago after trying just about everything else, including chanca pedra. Nothing worked so I read the info from that link I posted and really digested it. It made 100% sense to me that fresh bile will disolve everything so I started to do it and only 3 or 4 times did I not do 6 times a day due to not having access to the beans when I needed them.
When I had my first ultra sound back in Dec, it came back that I not only had the big stones in my bladder and little ones, but that my ducts were full of those little ones as well. This explained why I had so many different types of excrutiating pain that bought me to me knees. I also realized IV morphine does nothing to lessen the pain I had.
So fast forward to now. No more pain, no more anything. I can eat what I want when I want. I will eat beans at least 2 times a week now, maybe more as I know they work.
To make things simple for everyone, here is how I did it.
Every 2 hours, 6 times a day I had my half cup serving of beans 125ml. Which works out to one full large can a day of cooked Eden organic kidney beans. I chose eden organic as they are available in just about every supermarket and their cans are bpa free. You can just get your own bag of beans as well from anywhere and soak and cook them yourself. It doesn't matter, but I was lazy and bought the canned ones for convenience.
Every time I mixed something with the beans so that if would be fun and easy to eat. I sometimes mixed, apples, pineapple, tomatos, potatoes, sweet potatoes, cucumbers, brocolli, beets, lemon and olive oil, sea salt. Sometimes I even mixed a little of all of the above when I had the appetite.
And that is it. I did this for 8 weeks straight and I am forever thankful not only for how I feel, but the fact that I lost 25 lbs and feel full of energy as well."
03/06/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Timh, I apologize for the misunderstanding on my behalf. I would agree that legumes should not be ones only source of fiber. I mixed my beans with so many different veges etc and also had every two days oatmeal as well, avocadoes and such. Even peanut butter. Also, beans do not have a complete protein so one needs to have more than just beans in a diet anyway. I supplemented my protein from avocado most of the time."
03/06/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Carole, please try the legumes method 6 times a day and then get an ultrasound about 3 months later, You will be amazed how fresh bile will disolve your stone. Just image your stone being an icecube floating in warm water, it will eventually melt away. That is how the process of fresh bile works in disolving your stone."
03/07/2013: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Steve: Your consideration is much appreciated. I was insistent on Fiber as a preventive therapy for gallstones, but after reading your recent personal testimony and the article, you pose a very convincing proposal as treatment. Hopefully this treatment will be further ratified by other E.C.ers.
Looking back several years gone, I was suffering from gallstones (although I hadn't the acute attacks many report, maybe the Dr. Christopher Liver/Gallbladder Formula was at least helping). Went out to eat with some friends and decided on a "salad only" simply because I didn't feel able to digest a complete meal. Much to my surprise, my overall condition improved dramatically within an hour following a vegetable salad. This helped only temporary, but that result was convincing proof of the fiber effect on bile/gallstones. I latter did the flush plus Milk Thistle for the liver and improved significantly."
03/07/2013: Anon from Anon replies: "Thank you Stevenson, that's great information, really clear and will be very helpful to a lot of us."
03/07/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex,, England replies: "Hi again! You say you had your first scan in December which showed the stones. Since being on the legumes protocol have you had another scan? It's great that it worked for you."
03/07/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex,, England replies: "Hi! Thanks for taking the time to answer. I have re-read the information.... Have beans soaking ready to give it a go! I do have a high fibre diet - perhaps why I do not have 'attacks' when I eat.... just these weird heat/itching/inflammation problems from exercise mainly now..... the stone rattling around? I do eat a lot of legumes (I thought) but not as high an intake as described in the Hurd link or your post.
Some days I think I'm mad to follow 'another idea'.... When the reality is that the stone showing on the scan is getting bigger... and the GCG, Lemon, Lecithin, Chanca Piedra, diet, Dandelion Root tea, Tamarind, Apples, etc. are doing what? I know everything has helped restore my liver to a very healthy state.... I just want the stone to go.
Trying to convince my specialist not to just go ahead with gb removal surgery is difficult....
Thanks form your help and I am so pleased that what you have done has worked for you... gives me hope."
03/08/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "You're welcome Timh and Anon. I wanted to make it as easy as possible for everyone to know what and how I did it as I really feel nobody deserves the types of pain I was experiencing. I did forget to mention that 2 or 3 times I replaced Kidney beans with Navy beans, but I then fully stuck with the kidney beans as they have nearly double the fiber and it is the fiber that does the job and I sincerely hope people post their results after doing it.
I'm glad you mentioned how you felt after that salad. It happened to me too in the past, but I did not make the connection at the time. If I would have known to keep eating small portions of soluble fiber throughout the day, I could have saved myself a year of on and off hell, but better late than never.
To keep the record straight, I never stopped my morning coffee and I'm glad because I just love coffee.
Carole, I am going to the Dr. next week so that he can schedule an ultrasound again. I'm in Canada so I will have to wait it out for an appointment, but will post the results here. The last couple of days, I have tried to assault my body with high fatty foods, including tons of cheese, donuts, you name it, just to make sure I have absoltutely no issues and I don't, not even a suggestion of pain or discomfort anymore. Before, it was so bad, the slightest animal fats from milk products alone would send me to the floor crawling in pain and my first Doctor did not help either telling me things like "you could die", " you really need to consider removing your gallbladder" etc etc. It was a drain on my consciousness for sure, but I just did not want to give in and have things cut out without first doing my best to get it under control. Even my family when they witnessed me sweating profusely crawling on all fours wanted me to get the operation."
03/08/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc replies: "Carole, you're not alone as many of us have tried several methods. That is why I felt it was really important to read that link and understand it well. What you will also notice is that the weeks just fly by once you start and before you know it, you're finished.
Another side effect is that my body has become very fit, not from exercise, but just fit and lean and healthy as obvioiusly the cholesterol melts away at the same time leaving everything very firm."
[YEA] 12/05/2007: Ms Jackson from Hampton, VA: "My acid reflux started 2 months ago. I went to the doctor and told her the problems i have and she started me on PROTONX. It worked for about 2 weeks then slowly got worse I had to go to the Emergency Room I felt like I was dying. They gave me the same meds to soothe it and sugessted reglan to increase the strength of my stomach i guess. Then I tried proselic it was okay for a week then I was up again worse I am going to try the ACV I hope this works and I only drink Spring Water to prevent Gall Stones my mother had those and they are painfull since she stopped drinking regular water no problems for years... I'll let you know in about a week!!!"Replies
06/21/2008: Georgia from Green Bay, Wisconsin replies: "I want to do a liver cleanse. However I am allergic to sulfate. Can someone please tell me if I can take another ingredient with out sulfate. I am also a diabetic, will this be safe?"
05/20/2012: Jan from Se Q'ld, Australia: "Hi, I notice you don't YET have a segment for SWEDISH BITTERS. I would like to see it as to me it is a medicine chest in a bottle as it helps so many ailments.
I've seen a person healed of pain in just 5 or 6minutes from Gallbladder stones pain attack. Amazing results after a tbspn of the Swedish Bitters brown liquid in a little water, swallowed and then the application of SB Compress over the pain area.
I've seen my husband's knee healed after an accident and application of compress on his knee for an hour or so, for a few days in a row. I've had a badly sprained ankle heal overnight with the application of a Swedish Bitters compress. I am never without it in my medicine cabinet, bathroom and kitchen.
To read it's history, recipe' and the old manuscrip, there is a free ebook on it at http://www.swedishbitters.com/ebook.pdf
Hope this can help someone."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand: "So, I must start with the basics first. Gallstones are really caused by a magnesium deficiency. In fact, at LEAST 95% of the U.S. population is magnesium deficient. Magnesium comes from food sources like fresh green vegetables. I have a strong suspicion that gallstones are also formed by lecithin deficiency as well as magnesium: potassium: phosphorous: boron being imbalanced. In practice, magnesium and boron supplementation will balance the necessary problems and bring to balance the blood calcium - which is quite high in U.S. Finland, by the way, had the same problems as in U.S. until they got wise and made a law by adding magnesium to their food and/or water supply. They now do not have high rates of heart attack as in U.S. but they have one of the lowest in the world (lower than Japan). My suspicion is that gallstones are also going in the same direction. Let's go back to magnesium....
I personally supplement myself with 2000 milligrams of magnesium chloride (other forms do not do well except of course magnesium bicarbonate, which can be made at your home by bubbling magnesium carbonate with carbon dioxide in 90% water solution, since magnesium bicarbonate can only exists in water). Well here is an article of magnesium which you can read about:
In addition to the prevention of kidney stones there is evidence that magnesium can prevent gallstones Our medical dictionary says that the gallstones is a concretion formed in the bladder or the biliary ducts, composed, in varying amounts, of cholesterol, bilirubin, and other elements found in bile. The biliary ducts are in the liver. In this case also, magnesium is a specific preventive factor in the formation of gall- or liver stones. For one thing, in a previous chapter, we showed that magnesium has the effect of reducing the amount of cholesterol in the bloodstream.
The matter is mentioned in a communication to the French Academy of Medicine (June 23, 1931) by Pierre Delbet, M.D., reproduced in his book Politique Préventif du Cancer. He says that when the diet is rich in magnesium it immediately shows up in the bile. In this manner the quantity of the magnesium in the bile can be actually doubled. This was confirmed by Bretau. Dr. Delbet also mentions clinical work by Drs. Godard and Palios, which showed that such increase in magnesium can have a favorable influence on gallstones Dr. Delbet studied human bile in the laboratory and found that the addition of magnesium drove out practically all the cholesterol, and he noted that the addition of magnesium added a pigmentation to the bile, gave it a deeper coloring. Its effect on the bile was to make the cholesterol in it more soluble.
Dr. Delbet then adds that, "It is a clear result of experiments ... on the action of magnesium chloride on the elements that make up calculi [stones] that the addition of a food ration of magnesium in the form of halogenated salts has the power to reduce chance of biliary calculus formation.
"This conclusion is confirmed by facts. I know a great number of people who take delbiase regularly. None of them has vesicular trouble. That's probably not very convincing. You can't prove that those who take delbiase would have had biliary calculus if they bad not taken it. On the other hand, quite a few patients have biliary calculus without being magnesium deficient." In other words, there are other causes of gallstones than a magnesium deficiency.
However, says Delbet, "cases of the gall bladder being healed by the regular use of halogenated magnesium salts are numerous."
Delbet gives an interesting account of a doctor who used magnesium in connection with difficulties he had with the bile:
"The clinical facts have, for the most part, been observed by chance. My followers take much magnesium chloride. They are enthusiasts propagandizing for it. Others adopt it, partly, perhaps, because it often produces systemic excitation. Among those who take it for its tonic action, several are afflicted with various ailments which disappear, and they report from time to time successes I did not expect, acting on ailments that are out of my province. Thus I am led to discuss matters of which I do not know a great deal.
"About the preparation of the sick for operations, I have reported the action of magnesium chloride on the digestive tract.
"Laborde states that it has a strong action on the secretion of bile. I have no experience on this point, but I have confirmed with de Wades that, introduced into the duodenum, it leads to evacuation of the tube. By this mechanism it can render service in infections of the biliary duct. One of our associates has sent me his own observation which seems interesting to me. He had repeated attacks of inflammation of the gall bladder and the biliary ducts With fevers up to 39.6º, chronic intestinal troubles (diarrhea, distention, painful spasms after eating). In spite of a strict regime and treatment by physical agents on the liver and abdomen (diathermy and infra-red light), he showed no improvement. He put himself on delbiase in a dosage of 2 tablets (1 gr. 20) a day, stopping all other medication. Here are the results: it is he who has recounted them. "No more liver attacks, no more epigastric pains; intestinal troubles improved. After several weeks the stools became normal, as they had not been for five months. In two months, a weight gain of 10 kilograms. Transformation of the appearance, appetite normal, digestion easy, in spite of a return to hard work. The possibility, without the least sensation of fatigue, of taking up once more my habitual occupations."
So we pause and look back on what we have been reading. It sounds too good to be true-- magnesium seems to be good for anything that ails you. Therefore, why don't we hear much about it? The newspapers sing the praises of the wonder drugs in headlines, but the action of this miracle mineral is ignored. One wonders about the honesty of medicine. There have been hundreds of researches on magnesium. Is there a specific reason why it is being ignored?
Also, some EDTA supplements and/or humic acid/fulvic acid might help with gallstones by reducing oxidant actions resulting in gallstones And one more thing, oxidized form of cholesterol might also be responsible for gallstones. When I say oxidized form of cholesterol, I mean overcooked foods. They might be a source of those soft gallstones you heard about. This is especially dangerous when you are doing cooking using microwave, because we get all sorts of nonexistent organics compounds not found in nature. In fact, there was a Swiss study which found cholesterol level to be higher within a week of drinking and eating food heated with microwave. Chemicals formed from microwave cooking such as d-proline is a neurotoxin and may be responsible for alzheimer and parkinson's disease. l-proline is found in nature and it is safe. So stay away from microwave cooking and learn to eat raw food. Gelatin is especially important in our diet in helping absorb vitamins and riding ourselves of toxins.
Fulvic acid/Humic Acid to Loosen gallstones:
Fulvic acid/humic acid acts like a chelating agent (as in EDTA) which attaches to the gallstones causing them to be loose and dissolving them. It is a traditional used. It also reduces inflammation by increasing the immune system. How or what actions fulvic does really is that it removes "free metal radicals" which causes hydroxyl radicals to form in our body thus making it a good source of antioxidant, and at the same time loosening the gallstones
One of my personal theory of formation of gallstones has to do with colloidal suspension. Eating or drinking foods which DESTROYS COLLOIDAL DISPERSION is what causes our body to precipitate forming gallstones This is caused really from eating canned foods, soda pop and frozen dinner. It is well known that aluminum destroys colloidal suspension and causing a precipitation resulting in gallstones. Eating foods deficient in magnesium and excess in calcium make it even worse. Denatured foods found in canned food has no colloidal suspension really does not help either.
One of the easy techniques to increase colloidal dispersion (and thus zeta potentials), thus preventing gallstones in the first place is drinking water with lots of magnesium (hard water) and some potassium (not much) whose water is alkaline (you can add baking soda or sodium bicarbonate - but must be free of aluminum!) This is the reason why EDTA is helpful in prevention of gallstones, by chelating aluminum out of the body. Antacids, toothpaste tubes, rice cookers, cooking utensils, candy wrappers (chocolate kisses), and antiperspirants are the worse offenders because they have aluminum. You can read an eye opening article for colloidal suspension here:
(truly a classic article if somewhat technical for the general audiences - pictures is a real eye opener what it does to your body!)
Blood high in cholesterol or fats will also clump together without adequate lecithin (from raw yellow egg yolk and soy milk).
Nicotinic acid, known as Vitamin B3 known commonly as niacin maybe useful in reducing cholesterol buildup and hence reduced gallstones. There is a big distinctive difference between vitamin B3 called Niacinamide and Nictonic Acid. Do not use niacinamide as it is harmful to certain enzymes in suppressing SIR2 enzymes, use only nicotinic acid. I suspect also that a deficiency in nicotinic acid might have something to do with gallstones. The usual dose is about 500 milligrams/day. The dosage used in RDA (recommended daily allowance) does not have therapeutic doses used in orthomolecular therapies, commonly used by Linus Pauling.
Please remember one thing environmental toxins are what influences our health the most. If you have fish aquarium than you know what its like to put tap water (with chlorine) killing the fishes instantly. In fact fish aquarium, chlorine destroys colloidal dispersions which is why fishes are killed. pH, gH (general hardness), kH (carbonate hardness) are important fishes as it is for our own life also. Therefore it may be important to put dechlorinator when we drink water as we do to fishes. (dechlorinator used in aquarium is really sodium thiosulfate). You can restore colloidal dispersion of water somewhat by adding this. The chemical is quite safe since it is found in human bodies and it is used as a treatment for cyanide poisoning and prevention of side effects in chemotherapy treatment."
Additional Info emailed: "There is two factors that might be helpful in dissolving gallstone. From another point of view that is. If gallstone's component is cholesterol and calcium then dissolving cholesterol by eating lecithin and dissolving calcium by supplementing with EDTA will do the trick. Here is a way to prove that EDTA will work. Get a very old glass that looks very cloudy. As you know it is impossible to clean the cloudy glass. The main component of the cloudiness is caused by calcium carbonates clinging on to the glass. Get disodium EDTA, and wash it. The EDTA dissolved in water will remove them in seconds just by rubbing your fingers on it. Now 1 gram of EDTA will dissolve about 201 mg of Calcium Carbonate. That is proof enough for me that it will dissolve those gallstones, as well as kidney stones. I hope this helps."Replies
02/04/2011: Rhonda from Edgefield, SC, US replies: "What is EDTA and humic acid/fulvic acid and where do we get these?"
03/10/2011: D.l. from Sulphur Springs, Texas replies: "Humic and fulvic acids are formed from the degradation of dead plant matter. They are supposed to be very good antioxidents. I found some at my health food store. You can also order it online."
01/18/2012: Richard from Manila, Philippines replies: "Hello, Sharing here the easy-to-do-at-home gall bladder cleansing: REMOVING GALLSTONES NATURALLY
It has worked for many. If it works for you please pass on the good news. Chiu Nan is not charging for it, so we should make it free for everyone. Your reward is when someone, through your word of mouth, benefits from the regime. Gallstones may not be everyone's concern. But they should be because we all have them. Moreover, gallstones may lead to cancer. "Cancer is never the first illness, " Chiu Nan points out. "Usually, there are a lot of other problems leading to cancer.
In my research in China, I came across some materials which say that people with cancer usually have stones. We all have gallstones. It's a matter of big or small, many or few. One of the symptoms of gallstones is a feeling of bloatedness after a heavy meal. You feel like you can't digest the food. If it gets more serious, you feel pain in the liver area." So if you think you have gallstones, Chiu Nan offers the following method to remove them naturally.
The treatment is also good for those with a weak liver, because the liver and gallbladder are closely linked.
- For the first five days, take four glasses of apple juice every day. Or eat four or five apples, whichever you prefer. Apple juice softens the gallstones. During the five days, eat normally.
- On the sixth day, take no dinner.
- At 6 PM , take a teaspoon of Epsom salt (magnesium sulphate) with a glass of warm water.
- At 8 PM , repeat the same. Magnesium sulphate opens the gallbladder ducts.
- At 10 PM , take half cup olive oil (or sesame oil) with half cup fresh lemon juice. Mix it well and drink it. The oil lubricates the stones to ease their passage.
The next morning, you will find green stones in your stools. "Usually they float," Chiu Nan notes. "You might want to count them. I have had people who passes 40, 50 or up to 100 stones. Very many." "Even if you don't have any symptoms of gallstones, you still might have some. It's always good to give your gall bladder a clean-up now and then. PASS THIS AND YOU MAY HELP OTHERS!"
03/05/2012: Val from Esher, Surrey, England replies: "Removing gall stones naturally. Recently I have had bouts of severe pain in my gut. I had an ultrasound which showed lots of small stones. I have just completed the apple juice, epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice liver flush, as reccomended by Chiu Nan. It's a miracle!! It worked perfectly exactly as he stated. On the 7th morning there were at least 60 floating little green stones. No pain at all! The only discomfort was drinking the olive oil and lemon juice. A tip is to drink it through a straw, that way it doesn't have to touch your the inside of your mouth! I am so thrilled with the results, that I would like everyone to know...... It works!"
03/05/2012: Paul from Haiberabad, India replies: "Hi Val, Have you recently tried it? I too has a problem, I dont know what it is but base from the symptoms that I feel, it's gallstones. The pain in my uppr right stomach touching the rib made me believe that this is a gallstone. My questions are what do you prefer in this cleanse? drinking apple juice or eat 5 apples? and in the 6th day, is it ok to take lunch but not dinner?
Thank you, I want to try this but I want to know 1st who already tried it. I want to clean my gallbladder and liver!"
03/05/2012: Mike from Montreal, Quebec replies: "The part about lecithin is correct Ted as I discovered this about 2 weeks ago and immediately felt the improvement especially in terms of getting rid of my long term diarrhea problem. I would however not recommend getting it from eggs because of high cholesterol content as compared to soy which also happens to have other health benefits as well.
I suspect all along that a clogged liver from excess cholesterol deposit could be the main reason for a white tongue. When a liver is clogged, it is unable to release all the toxins efficiently so some of it becomes release through the tongue.
Diarrhea and even acid reflux is the body's natural reaction to pathogens that have been allowed to flourish as a result of poor bile flow. That is why it is so important to use lecithin for unclogging your liver and thus maximize bile flow inside your digestive system.
The olive oil and lemon solution will not unclog your liver as efficiently as lecithin but instead only increase the bile pressure in your liver and release some of the gallstones from your body. Unfortunately these gallstones will return unless your liver is free from any cholesterol deposits.
I have been consuming granulated soy lecithin every day and still to this day after more than 2 weeks, not a single episode of diarrhea and gall bladder attack. The best part of this treatment is that I don't have to experience the unpleasantness of going through a rigorous olive and lemon flush. I suspect all along that gallstone is really the result of a clogged liver from having followed a western diet that consist mostly of cholesterol forming food over a very long period of time.
If you follow a very healthy eating habit like I do then it is also unlikely that you will have a gallbladder problem since your body will not become deficient in magnesium and potassium as Ted pointed out. Thus, I encourage everyone to follow Ted's recommendation that would lead to a a healthy liver as I have gone through this process with very successfully results up to now.
05/31/2012: Daniel from Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne, U.k replies: "This is to Ted, How do I get natural Magensium chloride without added diliuent such as magnesium sterate for health related treatment? It seems that most Magnesium chloride vitamin supplement contains Magnesium sterate as a diliuent. And from my little research I found that Magnesium sterate in vitamin supplement can prevent absorption of the core ingredients. Also I heard that Magnesium sterate (Not Magensium chloride) can have a lot of side effects. I tried to look for transdermal Magensium chloride over the net to overcome this problem but it seems they are very over priced some charge upto 50$ per bottle.. Something I simply cannot afford. God bless. Daniel"
06/01/2012: Susan from San Francisco replies: "Can you buy Magnesium Oil (magnesium chloride brine) where you live? Not expensive."
06/01/2012: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "Hi Daniel - I bought pharmaceutical grade magnesium chloride from a company that supplies it for home fish aquariums. It's pure - nothing is added and it is much cheaper than anything you can buy in a health food store (I think I paid $27 Cdn for 7 pounds of it - which will last a very long time). Call any store that sells tropical fish and ask if they have magnesium chloride in stock and, if not, perhaps they can tell you where you could buy it. Also, you may want to check out chemical companies. To make transdermal magnesium "oil" - just add 1 cup distilled water to 1 cup magnesium chloride. Apply to your skin. Leave at least 20 minutes. Some people find it makes their skin itchy so they will rinse it after the 20 minutes. Good luck in finding a local source! Bess"
06/03/2012: Joy from Alberton, Montana replies: "To Mike from Montreal. I found your comment intriguing as I have known for quite some time that my liver has fatty deposits and coincidentally I also have a light colored tongue (I did not associate this with liver). My question to you is about the lecithin. Where do you buy it and how do you take it? Is it something I will have to take forever? I no longer have a gall bladder and I was told that I did not have any stones, but I do experience liver pain and have digestive problems. I would love the solution to be as simple as just taking some lecithin!! Any other info you would like to share is certainly welcome! Thanks."
06/16/2012: Olga from Rockville, Md replies: "To Joy from Alberton, Montana.
I have found a website of Dr. Deborah Graefer http://www.gallbladderattack.com/index.shtml
She is acupuncturist from California. Her website has a lot of good advises for people who experience pain from gallbladder and people who has GB removed. I had gallstones attack recently. I am six days following her beets, green soop diet, and drink flaxseeds tea. I feel very good."
06/30/2012: Tt from Ny replies: "I want to see if anybody had something similar what I have. I have periodic RtUQ pain. I do eat fats and do not restrict my diet too much. I am eating variety of foods with fruits and vegetables in plenty amounts.
I took antiparasitic tx (Mebendazole/Prazi before), my LFTs were slightly elevated, now are normal.
During liver flush with MgSO4 I get pale yellow pieces different shapes (most are small, large ones are about 1cm). They float. I digged few of them out with a glove, they are soft like paste and very easy to smudge out. What is it? Anybody had something similar?"
[SIDE EFFECTS] 09/14/2012: Kimberly from Fl, Usa replies: "I followed this remedy. When I started drinking the oil & freshly squeezed lemon juice (I only took about 3 sips through the straw) when I started vomiting. I had to stop drinking this. Has anyone else experienced this?"
09/15/2012: Louwrence from Rustenburg, North West, South Africa replies: "Hi Kimberly, It is a sign that you are very toxic, so just do it again until you can keep it down, it is worth it."
09/15/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Kimberly, this mixture certainly isn't for the fainthearted but it will empty the gallbladder. I, being at high risk for the stones had neglected a cleanse for over 3 yrs until I couldn't go a day further. About 10 days ago I fasted for 2 days on all but Apple Juice, mixed 1/2 cup veggie oil and about 1 oz Lemon Juice Concentrate w/ about 1 oz water, downed it in gulps rapidly (as I always do), layed down in bed and squeezed a roll of toilet tissue over the gall w/ my right thigh, and roll over on my left hip for drainage. I had a mix of several size stones plus the largest (about the circumference of a 25cent coin) stone i've ever passed. It took a couple days to detoxify but then the relief is something to almost celebrate.
Anyway, K, drop the straw method and just gulp it down as if you were very thirsty and drinking water. Let us know of your progress, OK!"
09/15/2012: Kimberly from Fl, Usa replies: "Thanks for the advice, I am going to try it again."
10/08/2012: Vickey from Sandpoint, Idaho replies: "Hulda Clark (Cure for all Diseases) recommends 3/4 cup fresh grapefruit juice rather than lemon juice, added to the 1/2 cup olive oil. Shaken, not stirred, I sip that mixture through a straw then lay down immediately, with no discomfort. In the morning come the greenies, etc. Etc. Etc."
03/19/2013: Carole from Bury Village, West Sussex,, England: "Spice you might like to look at for gb/liver issues.... Are tumeric - a natural anti-inflammatory and liver detox. Cinnamon helps lower cholesterol."
11/09/2006: Rosemary from Rahway, New Jersey: "IM TAKING FULL SPECTRUM TURMERIC EXTRACT . I STARTED TAKING IT NOVEMBER 3 2006. BEEN TAKING 3 CAPSULES THREE TIMES A DAY. I HAVE GALLSTONES. I'M HOPING IT HELPS TO DISSOLVE THEM."
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 11/05/2013: Dee from Belfast Ni: "Have had gallbladder stones detected with scan after several painful episodes. I was unaware of the therapeudic use of Apple Cider Vinegar, but thanks to all the great advice will defo be trying it next time. For me drinking copious glasses of water every day helps keep pain away."
[YEA] 09/29/2008: Blessed from Atlanta, GA: "i have been diagnosed with gallstones this past may of '07. i couldnt believe this is what was causing my nasuea and pain. i landed on this site looking for a remedy for another health issue i was having and decided to share my gallstone cure with everyone. i started off trying to obtain gallcleanse which i heard was the miracle drug out there. all natural, safe, doctor approved (can find it online but sold out every where) but my order has been on back order so long i tried Yi Dan instead (also found online). its 3 tablets 2x a day so i take them in the am and pm when i wake and sleep. no more pain. im going back for an ultrasound but i can almost guarantee there will NOT be any stones in my gallbladder! i can just feel it!!! Gallcleanse or Yi Dan are your best bet!!! good luck!"Replies
02/04/2012: Tona from Albany, Ny replies: "Hi I read your post about YI DAN, for gallstones, I was just wondering if your gallstones were gone after using this natural product? I just purchased this product a few days ago because I did not want to remove my gallbladder as my doc recommend."