Fibromyalgia Remedies Questions
FIBRO REMEDIES NEEDED
05/14/2008: Pat writes: "Im a 70 yrear old female..I've been suffering from Fibro for a year. Could you recommend a remedy that you feel may be of help. I have allot of pain but seem to suffer more with the faitgue.. My limit of activity per day is only around 2 hours. I've been on Malic Acid..and vitamins. WHich gives me some relief. The Drs claim the only help is a anti depressent but I refuse to go that route. I would be Thankful for any suggestions. Thank You"
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BORON VS. BORAX
03/14/2008: T writes: "Hi Ted, First of all, thank you very much for all the info you have posted on earth clinic. I have found it really useful as I am suffering from fibromyalgia, depression and a relatively early menopause( at 44 years).
I have started the borax cure and use 1/8 of a teaspoon in a litre of water.
I am due to go on holiday soon, and have ordered 3mg capsules of boron (solgar), as it would be a lot more practical for me rather than to take the borax.
Would you be able to let me know how much boron is 1/8 of a teaspoon of borax equivalent to, so that I know how many capsules of the boron 3mg I need to take in order to get the same dose as I am taking now?
Warm Regards and Many Thanks,
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The esophagus pH of 4 is a good clue. A good healthy pH esophagus is' 6, and the dividing line from conventional medicine is 4 as being what separates an acid reflux from a non-acid reflux is not really a good preventive measures. Ideally I prefer a figure closer to 6. An average of 4 pH generally speaking is an acid reflux. Interestingly a stubborn acid reflux needs to consider two points, that the pH of the saliva may be acid or below pH of 7 which is insufficient to neutralize the esophagus pH. That means the saliva pH needs to be raised too not just the urinary pH. That's only part of the solution. The other points to ponder is that if the esophagus pH is still 4, then obviously the body needs to increase the alkaline dosage much more further. If this doesn't seem obvious, just read the dog research below, where they were able to effectively raise the esophagus pH to 6. To raise the saliva pH requires a different remedy, and a stronger form such as 1/2 teaspoon of trisodium citrate plus 1/2 teaspoon of potassium citrate, in 1/2 glass of water taken twice or three times a day. It is the potassium that raises saliva pH, but it should be either in the form of potassium citrate or potassium bicarbonate. The other intracellular fluids, as opposed to the sodium extracellular fluids to consider is the magnesium citrate, 250-500 mg. If the dose does not increase, it the trisodium citrate portion can be upped to 1 teaspoon of trisodium citrate plus 1/2 teaspoon of potassium citrate taken three times a day. I might wonder why the extreme increase in dose, and I have found the source that is causing extreme acidity, often called metabolic acidosis, which can also trigger a major acid reflux and the body being relatively almost unresponsive to the baking soda, that one major enemy I have was the aspartame hidden in many supplements, sometimes unlabeled, appearing as an innocent sugar free gum, xylitol gum, diet coke, coke zero, pepsi max, hidden in effervescent tablets, hidden in artificial flavorings (as methanol) or labeled as proprietary. After stopping the aspartame the metabolic acidosis last for weeks and if I don't catch it sooner, I get a permanent macular degeneration, and become diabetic and acid reflux. Interestingly the lesson of aspartame can be extended to casual use of paint thinners, and sometimes (at least here in Bangkok) we used methanol as a paint thinner. Both aspartame and methanol degrades into formaldehyde inside the body destroying the neural system that is the major component in controlling the body's pH. Hence to restore this damaged function I need to decompose the formaldehyde and other system in my body by oxidative detoxification by the use of hydrogen peroxide therapies. That means in a one liter drinking water I will add 1 teaspoon of baking soda (1 liter is equivalent to 4 glasses of water with 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda at similar concentration) plus 30 drops of hydrogen peroxide 3% taken for a couple of days, to detoxify not just formaldehyde, but also other pharma drugs, and other chemicals that get recirculated in the body causing auto toxification. The other issue is neural damage caused by hydrocarbons (source can come from cigarettes, painting fumes, new carpets chemical smells, new cars chemical smells, gasoline fumes, kerosine use from insecticides, etc) that also causes extreme metabolic acidosis. The problem about the baking soda is that it doesn't cause global alkalization due to its limited ability to neutralize acid in areas where there is high carbon dioxide pressure in the body, and hence the use of trisodium citrate. The problem about trisodium citrate is that it's hard to find in a supermarket, so a suitable substitute might be the carbicarb mixed often used by researchers to revive in animals and humans during a heart attack instead of using the old sodium bicarbonate. However I use this thing to alkalize more effectively, so the remedies appear to be, for a stronger remedy: 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/2 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (washing soda) in 1/2 glass of water taken 3 to 4 times a day. It takes about 2-3 weeks to effectively raise the body's pH. However, this is only part of the story. The salivary pH may be acid or below 7 and may not be strong enough to neutralize (when swallowing saliva) the esophagus pH. Thus 1/4 teaspoon of potassium citrate is also added to the remedy. Of course this is a stronger form of remedy and should improvement is seen, its generally best for me to go to the lower dose remedy of just using it twice a day, or just using baking soda alone. One additional tip is that a baking soda, mixed in all drinking water during the day or throughout the day can be used to keep the esophagus pH in check in case an acid reflux is detected or a pain is experience, then I might take 1/4 teaspoon or 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda if I might have an attack, or at least have that feeling before it became worse. It should also be noted that in anorexic, bulimia, and some acid reflux people, a majority of them have a B12 and vitamin B complex deficiency. The neural damage caused by hydrocarbons caused acid reflux since neural system is what controls most of the pH stability. Therefore I might take B12 100 mcg x 4 times a day, plus vitamin B complex in form of B50 where most of the B's are 50 mg each, but because of the high amounts of hydrochloride added to most B complex in an attempt to lower cost, I might take it just once every two days. Most of the problems is that B1 thiamine should be thiamine mononitrate, not thiamine hydrochloride, and B6 should be pyridoxine phosphate, not pyridoxine hydrochloride, and for B3 it should be niacinamide, not niacin. It takes about a month for the body to attain a sufficient amount of B complex, but some maintenance dose is still needed Magnesium here is helpful. As to the adrenal issues, the DHEA 25 mg, pregnenolone 50 mg is taken to put less pressure on the adrenal systems so that the adrenal won't have to work too hard and these hormonal supplements can cause and raise the immunity, thereby affecting the pH of the system. Also glandular systems get destroyed if anyone has a history of fungus issues and if that's the case than a borax remedy is needed, between 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon in one liter of drinking water only 3 or 4 days out of a week. Borax tends to normalize hormonal issues too, but notably it balances the critical magnesium to calcium ratio. Lack of iodine can cause glandular atrophy and iodine kelp may be needed such as once every two days. It should be noted that certain pathogens, and fungus can cause the body to be acid, accumulate heavy metals from antibiotics use, and this is another reason why borax remedy is used. To kill of the pathogens causing the acid reflux. Zinc certainly will raise the immunity and should also be taken in the form of zinc gluconate 50 mg about three times per week. Finally two additional neuroprotective remedies that can further alkalize the body, besides completely avoiding aspartame and hydrocarbons is the smart drugs, such as 800 mg of nootropil (pyroglutame) and 2 mg of hydergine taken together for once every other day, or perhaps 4 days or 5 days in a row, needed to restore that ineural damage. In fact, a cellular phone can do the damage just the same, by inflicting neural damage to the brain the body can also become metabolic acidosis and hence when talking to the phone, either a hands free mode, or a blue tooth is used instead. A Russian had actually cooked boiled eggs using two cellular phones within an hour or so, so even if authorities deny cellular phones cannot damage the brain, it's hard to deny that a cellular phone can cook my brains."
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3% H2O2 SAFE TO CONSUME?
12/24/2007: N writes: "Is it safe to consume 3% Hydrogen Peroxide? I have had Fibromyalgia for over 20 years. My conditions involve the following: Severe Constipation, Poor Digestive Problems, Chronic Pain, Concentration Challenges."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Usually a food grade 3% H2O2 is used in drops added to a glass of water. Since it is diluted and it is food grade, it can be consumed.
One case had similar problem and cured by the following simple remedies took, however in this case, that person also reported ringing of the ears, sleeping problems and paranoia (now and then):
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1. 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 3-6 drops ofH2O2 3% taken once in the morning in 1 glass of water.
2. 500 mg of magnesium citrate (or chloride) a day,
3. 1/2 teaspoon of malic acid and 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda (to neutralize the acid), or a simpler way, but less stronger dose of 2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening.
4. Vitamin B complex B50 taken usually once a day and an additional B3 niacinamide of 100 mg for the paranoia condition. Preferred vitamin B1 in the B complex should be thiamine mononitrate. If energy level is still lacking an additional B1 of 100 mg extra may be added to give the needed energy levels.
The severe Constipation, usually indicates lactic acidosis or extreme acidosis, and the baking soda and thiamine vitamin B1 should help. An additional 1 tablespoon of lecithin may also be helpful. The poor digestive problems should be helped from the B12,as well as other Bs, which relates to glucose metabolism and alkalinity.
The chronic pain the use of magnesium and malic acid found in apple cider vinegar should help. Concentration Challenges should be mostly helped from B12 and B3 niacinamide, however chinese parsley should rid the heavy metals taken once every two days, of any small and reasonable amount. Such as 2 – 4 tablespoons of it. It may help reduce stress if sodium thiosulfate is mixed with borax in a bathtub too, if there is excess stress, or just a couple drops before sleep10% sodium thiosulfate dechlorinator added about 3drops before sleep in 1/2 glass of water, more may be needed in the future and this at least allows the body to get use to it and may cause a slight laxative effect, but that's only initially.
An additional problem of concentration may further be helped with an amino acid supplements, so that the body will have a balance amino acid, which should include both essential and non-essential amino acid. The most important nonessential amino acid is 2000-4000 mg of L-glutamine"
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SUFFERING FROM FIBROMYALGIA FOR OVER 20 YRS
12/17/2007: N writes: "I have had Fibromyalgia for over 20 years. My conditions involve the following:
Severe Constipation
Poor Digestive Problems
Chronic Pain
Concentration Challenges"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "One case had similar problem and cured by the following simple remedies took, however in this case, that person also reported ringing of the ears, sleeping problems and paranoia (now and then):
1. 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 3-6 drops of H2O2 3% taken once in the morning in 1 glass of water.
2. 500 mg of magnesium citrate (or chloride) a day,
3. 1/2 teaspoon of malic acid and 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda (to neutralize the acid), or a simpler way, but less stronger dose of 2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening.
4. Vitamin B complex B50 taken usually once a day and an additional B3 niacinamide of 100 mg for the paranoia condition. Preferred vitamin B1 in the B complex should be thiamine mononitrate. If energy level is still lacking an additional B1 of 100 mg extra may be added to give the needed energy levels.
The severe Constipation, usually indicates lactic acidosis or extreme acidosis, and the baking soda and thiamine vitamin B1 should help. An additional 1 tablespoon of lecithin may also be helpful. The poor digestive problems should be helped from the B12, as well as other Bs, which relates to glucose metabolism and alkalinity.
The chronic pain the use of magnesium and malic acid found in apple cider vinegar should help.
Concentration Challenges should be mostly helped from B12 and B3 niacinamide, however chinese parsley should rid the heavy metals taken once every two days, of any small and reasonable amount. Such as 2 - 4 tablespoons of it. It may help reduce stress if sodium thiosulfate is mixed with borax in a bathtub too, if there is excess stress, or just a couple drops before sleep 10% sodium thiosulfate dechlorinator added about 3 drops before sleep in 1/2 glass of water, more may be needed in the future and this at least allows the body to get use to it and may cause a slight laxative effect, but that's only initially.
An additional problem of concentration may further be helped with an amino acid supplements, so that the body will have a balance amino acid, which should include both essential and non essential amino acid. The most important nonessential amino acid is 2000-4000 mg of L-glutamine."
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SETBACK IN RECOVERY
12/13/2007: P writes: "Thank you Ted for your reply. I will try the hydrogen peroxide with the baking soda for energy. Lately I have had a setback in my recovery by the way of an increase in pain everywhere. Am really trying hard to keep a positive attitude an thank all on EC for all the great remedies. I tested positive for EBV, Negative for mycoplasma, neg for lyme, and had antibodies for cpn. I also have a small tumor on my anterior pituitary gland, but the Dr. doesn't think my illness has any relation to it. Thanks again for your feedback. Will not ever give up"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "
Dear P: A Vitamin B1 100 mg, (plus B complex of B50 kind -where mostly they are of 50 mg) taken every other day, plus magnesium citrate 500 mg, and some malic acid (with baking soda to neutralize the acidity) or a malic acid substitute using apple cider vinegar, I have found to be cured in one case and based on this experience are the following things about fibromyalgia that may be worth repeating:
1. Alkalinity (sufficient to go near 7)
2. Vitamin B complex, plus B1 - weakness will return within the hour.
3. Magnesium citrate 500 mg/day or at lest 250 mg.
4. Some apple cider vinegar with baking soda can be used alternately too.
Good luck!"
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NEED TO KNOW THE VITAMINS TO TAKE
09/04/2006: Mirella writes: "I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. i need to know, what vitamins to take,what remedy to do, how can i prevent this situation from getting worse. my joints are stiff every morning. my whole body ached .. pls i need help. i also have tendonitis in my feet,ankle and calf. and am starting to lose my hair in the middle and around my hair was always very thin now is less.. I have been sick for 1yr. everything is a mess ...thank you."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The pain of joints can be reduced by taking for at least a couple of weeks of vitamin B complex and some manganese sulfate. Vitamin B complex is often taken together with some aspirin (anti nanobacteria also) and some magnesium. The pain should be reduced substantially after about a month. Joint problems require longer time to heal"
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WANT TO KNOW THE EXACT RECEPIES
04/24/2006: Minni writes: "First of all, since you didn't clarify, can you please let me know the EXACT recipes for sea salt in combo with: H2O2 Vitamin C. Note that I've already dabbled in enema's using food-grade H2O2. I gag on the oral method of H2O2. I also can't stand ColloidalSilver, and btw, DMSO gives me headaches. I can't stand sulphur. Secondly, I probably tried MANY more therapies/ists (at great cost) than most other people, including big shots who write books. From among it all, what proved to have the MOST genuine effect were: Black Cherry or Black Cherry Concentrate for UTI and also to protect integrity of mucosal linings. Also what proved genuine, was the realization of the hidden-allergy of computer monitors. Note that bright lights trigger various neuralgias. Computers are no different and probably the WORST CULPRIT HOWEVER UNWITTING for many fibromyalgics. Also very helpful is yogurt; Finally, another genuine therapy was ON-SITE Dead Sea mud pool BUT ONLY after immersion awhile in the Dead Sea. For example, the mineral baths & mud at Tiberias WERE USELESS. Furthermore, top-rated clays ordered via mail in U.S. were USELESS. What was genuine was the DEAD SEA IN CONJUNCTION WITH MUD-POOL ON-SITE ONLY!!"
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TED'S FIBRO REMEDIES
Anon writes: "Ted, what is your protocal to treat fibromyalgia? Thank you for your reply!"
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ANY TREATMENT TO CURE DISORDER
Anonymous writes: "I am very curious about this disease. My mother was diagnosed with this disorder about 3-4 years ago. She has since then separated with her husband, moved from the house, questioned her self worth, and has just about exhausted any clinical version of treatment that is offered. As you are in Thailand, I was curious if there has been any method or treatment that has shown to aid or even cure this hindering ailment. Some form of massage or homeopathy that the United States hasn't accepted or caught wind of yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I can't stand to see my mother deteriorate at such an alarming rate. She's a 47 year old now stuck in an 80 year old body. Thank you for your time."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The conditions of fibromyalgia seems to be an aggressive one, therefore:
I will make it simple: take 250 mg Magnesium Chloride (Magnesium Aspartate or Magnesium Orotate is good also) and 25,000 I.U. Vitamin D and 300 mg of Malic Acid. If you can't find Malic acid, take apple cider vinegar, 1/2 cup/ day x 2 day. Once the conditions have improved, reduce the dosage. Drink 1/2 glass of water before meal and drink glass of water at every meal and take 1 full glass of water before sleep. Vary your dosage according to her conditions.Eat about 1/2 cup along with soups, or other food of fresh cilantro (Chinese parsley) every day for at least 1 month. YOU Must take them every day!! This will remove toxic heavy metal.
If the conditions does not improve or you believe she needs a more aggressive dosage than take 2 tablespoon 2 times per day of sea salt mixed with 1 glass of water.
Magnesium might cause the diarrhea, but this is necessary to get rid of the toxin buildup as well as a severe magnesium deficiency.
If mother have a herxheimer reaction, apple cider vinegar or vinegar will reduce the side effects.One teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate every night mixed with water.
Your mother's conditions will hopefully improve within 3-4 days. If and when she improves, consider adding zinc acetate of about 100-200 mg/day. You may need to consider humic acid/fulvic acid later on to reduce the toxic mycoplasma buildup later on also.
Do not drink milk, bread or white sugar. It makes her conditions much worse. Try eating brazil nuts, pecan, walnut. Real butter is good. Avoid using any vegetable oils for cooking. Coconut oil is o.k.
I am keeping it simple here so you can try them out."
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BEST TREATMENT FOR FIBROMYALGIA?
Anonymous writes: "What would you say is the best treatment for fibromyalgia? I was injured at my job in 1997 and have been suffering with this since. Often fibromyalgia is caused by injury as in my case. I am an RN but don't know what is really safe with all my medications. Are there adverse effects from these treatment? I have been going for pain management for a long time and certain treatments have helped and until just the past few weeks had only suffered from back, neck and arm pain along with fatigue and headaches. It is hard to hold down a job when you feel so miserable."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Many people with fibromyalgia had symptoms that went away and there seems to be many ways. One way is taking water with then 5-10 drops of 3% H2O2 seems to bring relief especially the weakness fairly quickly. Doctors are using magnesium and malic acid to reduce fibromyalgia, so you can take this after to take a glass of water with a weak solution of H2O2.
Apparently the caused is coming from some kind of mycoplasma. Which is fungus like and difficult to kill, however, these should lessen the pain or at least make them tolerable. Another way that seems to hit well is taking about 4 teaspoon (or grams) of sea salt with 1 teaspoon of vitamin C (4 to 1 ratio). Just start smaller than and try it out. Taking baking soda about 1/2 - 1 teaspoon seems to help in increasing oxygen in the blood by increasing the pH of the blood a bit and will help kill the mycoplasma.
It has been increasing trend that people who take yearly flu vaccines have very high methyl mercury level that exceeds the EPA by as much as 25 times. Therefore, it will really help if you eat some vegetables, in particular 1/3 cup of chinese parsley to chelate them out. This is taken only after taking the sea salt and vitamin C. The pathogens once destroyed will release two things, free radical irons and biological toxins. Chinese parsley will chelate the metals safely (Asians been eating this vegetable for thousands of years and used as a blood purifier) and also taking some apple cider vinegar will neutralized the toxins from a mycoplasma die off.
There is no perfect treatment since most people don't provide me any feedback. This is especially true when they are cured or gone into remissions. One told me that limu, a type of brown seaweed seems to work well with fibromyalgia also."
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QUESTION ABOUT USING SUPPLEMENTS
Jude writes: "Dear Ted, I have listed the questions that I have about using my supplements.
1. Regarding the mixture procedure and dosage for MgCl and Malic Acid: I understand that I can take up to 1 gram of MgCl per day without side effects. Is this true of Malic acid also? can I mix them together in the same solution? Also, can I add the H202 and the vinegar to the same mixture and drink them together? ( This is what I have been doing) I haven't had any problems so I assume it is OK. However, If you have any suggestion I would appreciate.
2. Please advise on how to use:
a) the sea salt
b) the MgOH
c) Sodium Thiosulfate
Ted, what I have been doing is premixing some Sodium Thiosulfate in water along with a couple of drops of the "Dechlorinator" and adding it to a large 20 liter bottle of drinking water. Then I filter the resultant solution before drinking. I have noticed a better water. However, it could be my imagination because I have had good clean water for a while. I hesitate using the magnesium hydroxide as I do not like any OH at all. Please advise how to use it and what it is suppose to do. I have no reference on how to use the sea salt. Please advise about this also. I am beginning my second week now and have made these observations; My headaches have diminished in severity and recurrence. This began in Bangkok after I took the first "pinch" in my hotel room. I noticed an improvement during the day as I walked up and down the stairs for the sky train. After a couple of day I began to retain fluid and my feet and ankles would swell-up a bit. This passed after a day or so but I still notice some difficulty removing my ring from my finger. Is this normal or am I returning to normal? I still have some pain in my joints but am noticing a definite relief from muscular discomfort. The pain I told you about in my left heel is still there but greatly improved. I am paying close attention to it and hope it improves more.
So, Ted, Please advise me about mixing procedures for the supplements and also for the water treatment. Also please give more information about the liquid drops of "Dechlorinator: and the drops of "Si" the fingernail supplement - I have noticed after only one week that my finger nails are more flexible and easier to clean. However, this could be from a better Ca Mg balance. The "crusty" cuticles are gone..... Many Thanks "
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Jude: People varies in dosage of MgCl without side effect. Some get diarrhea as little as 500 mg. For me it has no effect at all. Last time you took a pinch of MgCl to a 250 cc glass of water, which is about 250 mg. Some people are so sensitive that I have to recommend 250 mg/liter of water.
The reason for variation is simple: if the person is severely deficient in Magnesium, the likelihood of a diarrhea is stronger. It means the body's electrolyte is severely imbalance and the system tries to dump out more waste, including water. Therefore, you really have to guess about your own level of tolerance for MgCl. It will get much more tolerance with long term use.
The wonderful thing about natural supplements in general is they can generally be mixed together. This means you can mix Malic acid and vinegar together.
Again, as a level of caution start small dosage first this includes both malic acid and vinegar. For me 500 mg/250 cc of water for Malic acid is way to sour for me. So it depends on your taste. And yes you can mix with a couple of drops of 3% H2O2 also. As to the use of sea salt, here is what I do: a pinch of sea salt per liter of water. I don't recall recommending you any Magnesium Hydroxide as I have never used or have any magnesium hydroxide myself.
But I do recall recommending fulvic acid, chlorinator(sodium thiosulfate), defluoridator (boron compounds), sea salt, H2O2, Silicon dropper and vinegar. As to your condition of swelling, this has much to do with perhaps not drinking enough water.
This is especially true of hot weather. Try this and see if you improve: drink about 1/2 liter first thing in the morning (actually my calculations is about 600-700 cc for your size and weight, but this is a small point). During the breakfast, you may drink any amount you like, since your starting value was already 500 cc. of water. I have noticed that you do not drink enough water during breakfast, but you drink other things which is not helpful with fluid retention, such as tea, coffee and fruit juices. After you have breakfast try to keep tabs whether the swelling is now reduced. If you feel better then go for another 1/2 liter of water before lunch. Then continue that with 1/2 liter before sleep. What it does is that when you drink more water, you loose more sodium thus reducing the fluid retention caused by sodium. This at least was helpful for my conditions of fluid retention and my high blood pressure.
Remember the water I drink are all pre-treated similarly to what I wrote you by adding a pinch of sea salt, plus de chlorinated, defluoridated, as well as adding a drop of the mineral concentrate (which consists of fulvic acid also) to the one liter of water. In my experience, joints are slow to recover, but muscular aches and pains will go first. The nails and hair, and skin will improve next, and finally the joints. If you want your joints to heal faster, take more of the water soluble silicon more. This might be helpful.
If you can get Knox gelatin, or non sweetened gelatin to your diet, it was shown to be helpful to your joints as well. Taking of vitamin C supplements may be helpful with joint conditions by increasing collagen production.
Other things that will help is allantoin mixed with aloe vera oil or DMSO. But this is another story. The other problem about the swelling could also be the fibromyalgia that you mentioned, and clove oil as mentioned might be helpful, but the use on clove oil can be done later on once the pre-treatment of water is in place. If you wanted to be sure that you are not drinking enough water do the urine electrical conductivity test, the average is between 30,000 - 40,000 mirosiemens/cm2. If the value exceeds that than you don't drink enough water. For me my urine conductivity is way over the hill at 95,000 and up, which means I have to follow the stict regimen of drinking at least 1/2 liter morning, lunch and evening not counting the water I drink during meals, when I am thirsty and assuming I am not outside working hard. When your urine conductivity is way over for years and year without you realizing, then you get swelling, high blood pressure and reverse osmosis of the eye fluid causing macular degeneration, which I am currently suffering with my left eye.
So drinking more water might solve these conditions I am currently having. I should have bought the conductivity meters and brix meter sooner! Also, it seems that magnetized blender water had a very favorable effects (more longer time) in better values of pH, electrical conductivity, Brix(sugar level) and ORP (oxidation reduction potentials). So if you get a chance to experiment with it see what happens, at least my beans sprouts and all the plants in my house responded quite favorably! Thank you for the feedback. "
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