Endometriosis Cures Questions
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PROGESTERONE CREAM FOR ENDOMETRIOSIS?
09/03/2011: Anonymous from Anonymous writes: "If I use a natural progesterone cream do you think it will help with my endometriosis? I want to stop taking the Depo but the pain is unbearable. When I discovered Earth Clinic many women said the ACV helped with endometriosis. This is why I have started to take it. I have been on Depo for 10 years. I am not sure why I have a sudden surge in appetite. I am very concerned about putting a chemical in my body. My only other alternative is to have a hysterectomy.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you!"
09/06/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "If progesterone is taken in any form, especially synthetic, you will find an increase in appetite if given in excess. It is best to check for hormone levels. ACV also helps so you have to see if it works. If for pain and some remission I think melatonin at doses necessary to reduce pain will help a lot, start with 5 mg (but you will know the next morning) and once a day. Then if you require more then increase the dose. Natural progesterone will slowly reverse it, but if the pain is coming from the scar tissue, then it is bromelain taken many tablets a day to help dissolve the scars. Lycopene, Green tea extract, and fish oils are also powerful against endometriosis.Ted"
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WEIGHT GAIN AND CRAVINGS: ACV OR DEPO?
09/01/2011: Anonymous from Anonymous writes: "Hi Ted, I recently started taking ACV, an unfiltered brand. I have found since taking it, I have an increase in appetite. I read that many people use the ACV to lose weight. I was taking it for my endometriosis. I am currently taking Depo Provera to help with the excruciating pain and I do not have a monthly cycle. I would like to know is it normal to experience the increase in appetite and sugar cravings? IF not, what is the cause of this.
I take my ACV twice a day during the morning and night with tea and honey."
09/06/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The Depo Provera is a progesterone and it increases appetite. ACV does not increase or decrease appetite, it just prevents accumulation of fats, as a component of ACV is acetic acid, which is vinegar we buy, but the malic acid increases energy. I will find it unusual for ACV alone to increase appetite, but that doesn't happen. I would prefer natural progesterone cream which is a safer from of progesterone and it doesn't have the unusual effects on appetite increase.Ted"
09/07/2011: Anonymous replies: "If I use a natural progesterone cream do you think it will help with my endometriosis? I want to stop taking the Depo but the pain is unbearable. When I discovered Earth Clinic many women said the ACV helped with endometriosis. This is why I have started to take it. I have been on Depo for 10 years. I am not sure why I have a sudden surge in appetite. I am very concerned about putting a chemical in my body. My only other alternative is to have a hysterectomy. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated. How many tablets of Lycopene or Bromelain would you suggest?A Million thanks for your response and suggestion. I have been suffering with this for many years. I have not been able to find a natural remedy. God Bless you."
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ENDOMETRIOSIS HELP
08/15/2011: Anonymous from Anonymous writes: "Dear Ted,
I am a sufferer of Endometriosis since 2002. Since then, I've had a laparoscopy for biopsy, Zoladex for 6 months, 2 pregnancies, tried TCM, Coffee enema detox, castor oil hot pack, Eissac Tea etc etc. I'm a vegetarian since 2007, exercise almost everyday, meditate (15 minutes perday) and avoid junk food. They all helped to a certain extend but the problem comes back again after 1-2 years. I was also diagnosed with adenomyosis in 2007. In April, a 2 cm cyst is found in my right ovary again - I really want to know what I've not been doing correctly ie. diet, lifestyle or remedies??? The doctor only told me that when I suffer till I could not stand it anymore, have a hysterectomy.
My menses has a lot of blood clots, painful (but can still go about with chores), very heavy on 2nd day, and staining days before and after menses (sometimes up to 2 weeks). The cycle is about 28 days, some times less. I constantly have abdominal pain, lots of wind and flatulence (during non-menstruation days), very low in energy, sometimes insomnia, sciatica pain, low back pain. Hope you can help me.
I started taking lime juice + baking soda (1 lime + 1/4 tsp bs in a glass of water) 2 times per day since last week. I took it for 5 days and rest 2 days. I'll try to find Lysine, green tree extract, EDTA (?what strength). For, Lysine - taken 4 times a day means spaced out to every 6 hours? I have Niacin B3 in 50mg - do I take 10x? Wouldn't that cause a lot of flushing??? And for SSG - how does that help? Is Endometriosis related to viral? How to take for Endometriosis case?
Thank you in advance.
Best regards"
08/18/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "If you have Adenomyosis (from endometrosis) the answer would be very different, then the problem appears to be hormonal imbalance. Have you tried melatonin and natural progesterone creams? The dioxins and bisphenol A is known to cause this condition too, from canned foods or exposure to burning plastics or you take certain vegetables that block it, such as cabbages family, cassava, or synthetic hormones? Since adenomyosin occurs around 35 to 45 years when progesterone decrease, only natural progesterone and perhaps melatonin is known to help.Brocolli has been known to block estrogen dominance also.
Ted"
Anonymous replies: "Dear Ted,
How do I use the natural progesterone cream? or melatonin (not sure which is available).
Does that mean I should take more vegetables of the lettuce family? I try my best avoid plastics as much as I can and am also taking tumeric powder 1/2 tsp + cayene pepper/day. Is EPO suitable for me?"
Ted responds to Anonymous: "It helps to use natural progesterone cream. Melatonin may further help. The lettuce is, contains indole 3 carbinol, especially broccoli helps, but in general vegetable consumptions helps. The food that is to be avoided especially are meats in general. The worse is processed meats. Trans fatty acid are the worse and found in many vegetable oils also is bad. Aromatase inhibitors found in button mushrooms also helps. Vitamin E not only reduces blood clots but is useful for endometriosis, but also of biotin, green tea, and other antioxidants.
I think EPO (Erythropoetin) may not be helpful endometriosis, I could be wrong. But there is support for this as research is shown below.Expression of erythropoietin in endometriosis tissues.Cai Guoqing,Chen Biliang,Fan Yang,et al.Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology,Xijing Hospital,Fourth Military Medical University,Xi'an 710033
Objective:To investigate the expression of erythropoietin(Epo)in endometriosis and its correlation with clinical biological behaviors.Methods:Endometrium specimens were obtained from ectopic endometrium in 38 cases with endometriosis and 35 normal uterus for control.Expressions of Epo and its mRNA in these paraffin embraced specimens were examined by immunohistochemistry and in situ hybridization technique with specific cDNA probes.Results:Both expressions of Epo and Epo mRNA in glandular cells in endometrium of endometriosis were stronger than those in normal endometrium.Interstitial cell showed an insignificant expression.Expressions of Epo and Epo mRNA in endometriosis were 9.68±2.90 and 3.08±0.48,respectively,significantly higher than those with normal endometriosis(P0.001). Expression of Epo mRNA was closely correlate with American Fertility Society endometriosis%u2032 staging(r=0.979,P=0.013).Conclusion:The increased expressions of Epo and Epo mRNA in endometriosis may play important roles in the pathogenesis of endometriosis.
Ted"
Anonymous replies: "Thank you very much on the info. I am also taking Chinese Yam as a supplement for strenghtening my stomach and spleen. I read that it contains DHEA which helps to balance hormones and it is also present in Mexican Wild Yams - which is used to produce the natural progesterone creams. I wonder if they're the same?"
Ted responds to Anonymous: "The Mexican yams are not exactly the same as natural progesterone. It is not biochemically identical. What the manufacturers do is obtain the yam (diogenin) and converted chemically to be Natural progesterone. DHEA is best obtain in the form of DHEA, and not indirectly. But we can consider that Mexican yam contains precursor of DHEA, progesterone, and others hormones derived from this.
Ted"
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TED'S REMEDIES NEEDED FOR ENDOMETRIOSIS
11/19/2010: C. from California, Usa writes: "Hi Ted,
I in my mid-40s. Thank you for your support and advice, first of all.
I was diagnosed with endometriosis abt 8 years ago, had laser surgery which did not help. I stil have endometriosis. I believe I have had it since I was very young. I also have severe depression & anxiety, focusing problems, for a very long time, it has gotten worse with age. I also have problems with the bending areas of my body. Flexibility has been very good, maybe too good, but there is chronic pain, throbbing or persistent. As well as restless leg syndrome. And the latest diagnosis is fibromyalgia. I am on gabapentin (neurontin) to help with pain. 300 mg a day. Since I started taking it, my skin itches a lot more. I also have severe itching, and chronic pain around the right upper quadrant (liver area). No skin problems though, my hair has been turning white rapidly lately, but I have a lot of it though a lot falls out. I continue to have my period, have pelvic cramps throughout the cycle, and I continue to get sore and swollen breasts as well as headaches. I could lose 10-15 lbs and I would be happier about my weight. I often get a slight sore throat. My get good walks several times a week, and my diet is not horrible but also perfect. I do use VCO for cooking and eating. I am trying to decide what to do first, I want to start basic. It is hard for me to do the baking soda and ACV first thing in the morning, the house is very cold, and I want to have my breakfast.
I read all the advise on the website but I am overwhelmed by it and don't know where to start. Also I am concerned abt the granulated lecithin because of how soy lecithin is produced, with the use of harsh chemicals. Thank you so much and best to you."
11/20/2010: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear C.When there is many problems, the best way to start if you have problems with baking soda and acv is take vitamin c instead, preferably sodium ascorbate 1000 mg taken 5 times a day plus vitamin b3 250 mg minimum but preferably 500 mg taken 3 to 4 times a day and some amino acid supplements. B3 should help with fungus, itchy skin, joint pain, and depression. Sodium ascorbate should help synergistic with b3 your energy level. Lysine 1000 mg taken hourly 4 hours and 2000 mg glutamine should help your immune systems in general. Within 1 to 2 weeks skin condition should improve, but energy levels pick up the next day. This I think is the best thing to start.
Ted"
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REMEDIES NEEDED TO TREAT THE FORMATION OF CYSTS IN OVARIES
10/21/2008: Lori writes: "Ted,
Is there any natural method to treat endometriosis and/or the forming of cysts in a woman's ovaries. I have friend (age 28) who has already had surgery that removed one of her ovaries back about 4 years go. Just recently she had an ultra sound done or a cat scan done of her abdomen area. They found something (maybe another cyst). She has regular periods but cannot get pregnant. Is there something she could take that would help her get pregnant? Thanks in advance."
11/30/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "For cysts of ovaries, the cause is high blood calcium from blood sugar spikes that occur from consuming artificial sugar, fruit juices, acid forming foods, for example, which leads to cyst. Common remedy is magnesium citrate (or magnesium chloride) 500 mg, a tiny amount of disodium EDTA, such as 10-25 mg (as opposed to much larger oral dosage used commercially in the health food market) which reduces blood calcium. However, the primary method of controlling blood sugar, which increases calcium solubility by 20 times, is the prime cause. Therefore, alkalization, such as 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water, twice a day, magnesium supplements, chromium supplements, usually chewed taken at 1000 mcg a day, are the most important ones in reducing the cysts. There is a link to cyst and past exposure to fungus in the house. A long term exposure, even long after it is gone will continue to have an effect so these are long term conditions. They also can spring up CFS and hypothyroid, once the fungus invades the system too. Their major weakness is the alkaline remedy, which mostly are killed or destroyed.Ted"
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CAUSES AND CURES?
02/18/2007: Rachelle from Phoenix, AZ writes: "I'm just curious if anyone knows of any cures for Endometriosis? It plagues SOO many women, including me, however no one knows a way to cure it yet. Thanks!"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "To find a remedy it is necessary to explore the causes of such condition, and then treatment is pretty much straightforward.'Research has gone far into the causes of endometriosis, and it appears to be an immune issue. In monkeys it was possible to induce this condition through ionizing radiation such as x-rays. But others are also possible, such cancer causing chemicals, namely pseudoestrogens, insecticides, dioxin, hormonal disrupters such as halogens (chlorine, fluorine), or even by altering your body to be suppressed of immune activities through yearly vaccinations, viral and microbial presence where its DNA can be combined to cause more virulent microbes through horizontal gene transfers, the use of GMO foods, mostly from animals, plants, etc. can also create such a condition also.
Autoimmunity and immune problems are also the cause, but they can be initiated through a deficiency such as iodine. In research studies they found iodine deficiency to be related to endometriosis as well as ovarian cancer, and others. Of course we can furthermore explore on other causes to fungus issues where certain fungus toxins generates cancer causing substances as well. The presence of microbes of toxins from virus and fungus, and possibly nanoinsects can also bring about endometriosis as the tissue cells attempt to expel the invading organism by altering its DNA composition in order to reproduce, much like virus injecting its DNA and forcing the cells to produce its itself. So basically the cause comes to a simple issue of deficiency, virus, fungus, mycoplasma, mycobacterium and of course nanoinsects.
Therefore, the first thing we should do is to do what I have always recommended. First, alkalize the body where the urinary pH reaches 6.5 - 7.0. This will normalize the body's pH and kill most of the invading pathogens since most of these are anaerobes. It is not surprising that the atmospheric oxygen level is decreasing and as a result more anaerobes exist. Alkalizing is one way to increase the body's oxygen. The usual dose is between 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda taken twice a day at least. Or you can try 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar with 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda three times a day. Another one is to use one whole lime plus about 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda taken twice a day. These are just the beginning.
The body needs a good mineral balance, the best simple source is a good quality sea salt, which they should be slightly gray or light brown in color, slightly moist, but never bleached white. The sea salt should be added to the drinking water, plus a pinch of baking soda. The mixture for your drinking water varies, but the safest dose without problems is 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt to one liter of water with a medium size pinch of baking soda.
The other issue is we need to deal with nanoinsects and fungus (mycobacterium or even mycoplasma). One single supplement that I have found most effective against these is a simple borax. A pinch of borax, approximately 1/8 teaspoon is added to 1 FULL glass of water or 1/2 liter of water and drink this SLOWLY over the course of a day. It is taken about once a day, and you need not take it long, usually 3-4 days a week for 2 to 3 months would suffice to kill at last most of the fungus and nanoinsects to manageable levels.
As to what specific vitamins are most helpful, this is relatively straightforward. Most will have a vitamin B12 deficiency, which will prevent absorption of the OTHER vitamin B complex. Therefore, vitamin B12 should be taken first, and vitamin B complex can also be taken too. Now some people claim that B12 is poorly absorbed if the body is already deficient in B12, therefore either a sublingual dose of B12 or B12 injection would do.
The one thing that endometriosis is noticed is that in monkey studies they show also the conditions of anorexia after the obvious exposure to x-rays found in chest x rays or CAT scans, for example. Anorexia is a vitamin B12, but also of thiamine deficiency of B1 and possibly B2 riboflavin. However certain other vitamin Bs are just as important in the control of glucose, such as vitamin B6. The normal formation of skin cells, and obviously normal skin and organ growth, cellular structures, I think vitamin B5 (I like panthenol) and vitamin B8 (inositol) are quite important. The B5 and B8 are relatively side effects free under normal therapeutic doses and B5 has some links to adrenal hormones and stress in rat studies. I prefer to take for most conditions is about 2000 mg of B5 and about 2000 mg of B8, while other Bs I tend to take a lot less, usually about 100 mg each, with the exception of B12, the dose here would be 1000 mcg. As to B3, I would like to see people use niacinamide as oppose to niacin, which cause skin flushing. Niacinamide I think lowers stress in larger doses such as between 50-100 mg or more and may also help. On the other hand so does B5.
Other minerals besides boron (found in borax) that prevents sugar from reacting with proteins as in borax, are minerals which controls sugar. By controlling sugar, it deprives fungus and bacteria of that and get them under control instead of out of control. Those minerals are chromium (chelated chromium will do in most cases), tungsten (few people know this regulates sugar), molybdenum (pH mechanism and sulfites radicals are kept under control), and some manganese (manganese sulfate is o.k. or manganese chelated is acceptable also if you can't find them). To normalize collagen formation 500 mg of sodium ascorbate vitamin C would be helpful.
Other supplements needed to control fungus and viral growth and immune system which are quite important includes magnesium (glucose metabolism, immunity), zinc acetate 50 mg twice a week) or zinc gluconate, selenium (200 mcg), and we can never forget iodine as mentioned earlier.
Since it is relatively difficult to obtain iodine in the form of supplements then we just have make do with iodine foot painting every other day to raise the iodine levels up to increase immunity.
Vitamin D4 or vitamin D3 is related to immunity also but the preferred dose I think that works is 20,000 I.U./ say 5 days a week taken for about month for example. But to prevent calcium levels from being too high, magnesium citrate (or magnesium gluconate is taken at 250 mg/day for 2-3 times a week. It is important that borax or boron supplements is taken now and then as this mineral balances the magnesium and calcium levels.
Finally, essential fatty acid is important, preferably Gamma linoleic acid, such as evening primrose oil, fish oil (omega 3) and flaxseed oil should complete all the supplements necessary for endometriosis.
Certain foods helps fight against immunosuppressive chemicals and pseudoestrogens, such as indole 3 carbinol, which is found in broccoli and some in cabbage. Of course if you can get supplements for that one, this would also help.
It is important to avoid immunosuppressive habits, foods and drugs, such as sugar, perfumes, fried foods, oxidized and rancid oils, eating heavily in supper time, cigarettes, vaccinations, french fries, cookies, pastries, pizza bread, gluten rich foods, etc. Even living in a fungus and moldy bedroom is not helpful. I suggest you ozonate your room now and then to help.
You can detoxify some chemical poisons that accumulate in the liver by taking 6 drops of hydrogen peroxide with water now and then. Granulated powdered lecithin is helpful for the liver to detoxify the body in general too. This is taken at least 1 tablespoon per day, but in some cases more serious conditions warrants taken one before every meal, at one tablespoon. Ted
I attach some research abstracts related to endometriosis for you here:
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1: Lancet. 1976 Apr 24;1(7965):890-1. Links Dietary iodine and risk of breast, endometrial, and ovarian cancer. Stadel BV.
Geographic differences in the rates of breast, endometrial, and ovarian cancer appear to be inversely correlated with dietary iodine intake. Endocrinological considerations suggest that a low dietary iodine intake may produce a state of increased effective gonadotrophin stimulation, which in turn may produce a hyperoestrogenic state characterised by relatively high production of oestrone and oestradiol and a relatively low oestriol to oestrone plus oestradiol ratio. This altered endocrine state may increase the risk of breast, endometrial, and ovarian cancer. Increasing dietary iodine intake may reduce the risk of these cancers.
1: Am J Vet Res. 1986 Jul;47(7):1537-41. Links Endometriosis: clinical and pathologic findings in 70 rhesus monkeys. Fanton JW, Hubbard GB, Wood DH.
Endometriosis was histologically confirmed in 70 female rhesus monkeys (Macaca mulatta). Severity of endometriosis was staged as minimal (14% of the monkeys), moderate (20%), or massive (66%). Clinical examination indicated masses in the abdomen and/or pelvic cavity palpable abdominally (64% of the monkeys) or rectally (93%), constipation (29%), anorexia (39%), irregular menses (17%), and radiographic evidence of abdominal soft tissue masses (38%). Pathologic findings were of intra-abdominal endometrial cyst formation (73% of the monkeys), and adhesions involving the ureters (51%), colon (66%), urinary bladder (50%), or ovaries (81%). Metastatic growth of endometrial tissue was found in 4 (6%) of the monkeys.
1: Radiat Res. 1991 May;126(2):141-6. Links Radiation-induced endometriosis in Macaca mulatta. Fanton JW, Golden JG.
Veterinary Sciences Division, USAF School of Aerospace Medicine, Brooks AFB, Texas 78235.
Female rhesus monkeys received whole-body doses of ionizing radiation in the form of single-energy protons, mixed-energy protons, X rays, and electrons. Endometriosis developed in 53% of the monkeys during a 17-year period after exposure. Incidence rates for endometriosis related to radiation type were: single-energy protons, 54%; mixed-energy protons, 73%; X rays, 71%; and electrons, 57%. The incidence of endometriosis in nonirradiated control monkeys was 26%. Monkeys exposed to single-energy protons, mixed-energy protons, and X rays developed endometriosis at a significantly higher rate than control monkeys (chi 2, P less than 0.05). Severity of endometriosis was staged as massive, moderate, and minimal. The incidence of these stages were 65, 16, and 19%, respectively. Observations of clinical disease included weight loss in 43% of the monkeys, anorexia in 35%, space-occupying masses detected by abdominal palpation in 55%, abnormal ovarian/uterine anatomy on rectal examination in 89%, and radiographic evidence of abdominal masses in 38%. Pathological lesions were endometrial cyst formation in 69% of the monkeys, adhesions of the colon in 66%, urinary bladder in 50%, ovaries in 86%, and ureters in 44%, focal nodules of endometrial tissue throughout the omentum in 59%, and metastasis in 9%. Clinical management of endometriosis consisted of debulking surgery and bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy combined in some cases with total abdominal hysterectomy. Postoperative survival rates at 1 and 5 years for monkeys recovering from surgery were 48 and 36%, respectively.
1: J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1977 Nov 1;171(9):859-61. Links Pelvic endometriosis and simian foamy virus infection in a pigtailed macaque. DiGiacomo RF, Hooks JJ, Sulima MP, Gibbs CJ Jr, Gajdusek DC.
Pelvic endometriosis and simian foamy virus infection occurred in a pigtailed macaque. Diffuse omental, peritoneal, and intestinal implantation of endometrium resulted in massive adhesions between adjacent abdominal and pelvic viscera, with formation of a large mass in the right caudal quadrant of the abdomen. Simian foamy virus type 1 was isolated from ectopic endometrium and from the uterine wall but was considered to be merely epiphenomenal.
1: Fertil Steril. 1995 Jul;64(1):172-8. Links The effects of immunosuppression on development and progression of endometriosis in baboons (Papio anubis). D'Hooghe TM, Bambra CS, Raeymaekers BM, De Jonge I, Hill JA, Koninckx PR.
Department of Reproduction, Institute of Primate Research, Nairobi, Kenya.
OBJECTIVE: To test the hypothesis that immunosuppression increases the development and progression of endometriosis in baboons. DESIGN: Experimental controlled study. SETTING: Institute of Primate Research, Nairobi, Kenya. PARTICIPANTS: Thirty-two baboons (8 with normal pelvis, 10 with spontaneous endometriosis, and 14 with endometriosis induced by intraperitoneal seeding of menstrual endometrium). INTERVENTION: Daily injection of 0.8 mg/kg IM methylprednisolone and 2 mg/kg azathioprine for 3 months in 16 baboons (4 with normal pelvis, 5 with spontaneous endometriosis, and 7 with induced endometriosis). No treatment was given to the remaining 16 primates. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The change in number and surface area (mm2) of endometriotic lesions was evaluated by laparoscopy in all baboons after 3 months, in 8 animals with induced endometriosis and in 9 primates with spontaneous disease after 7 and 12 months, respectively. RESULTS: Immunosuppressed baboons with spontaneous endometriosis had a significantly higher number and larger surface area of endometriotic lesions than nontreated animals. However, immunosuppressed and nontreated primates with induced endometriosis were comparable with respect to both number and surface area of implants. A transient decrease in typical lesions was noted during immunosuppression. Immunosuppression did not cause the development of endometriosis in baboons with previously documented normal pelvis. CONCLUSION: Immunosuppression may increase the progression of endometriosis in baboons with spontaneous disease."
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