Last Modified on Mar 20, 2014
What Causes Broken Capillaries?
Capillaries are part of the circulatory system and connect veins and arteries together. Capillaries are small and fine, and are where the exchange of water, oxygen, nutrients, and waste occurs between cell tissue and the circulatory system, with bloodflow carried to the cells by the arteries and back to the heart by the veins. Broken blood capillaries occur when these delicate structures beneath the skin become damaged, commonly leaving red blotchy marks on the face but also to be found on the legs. This can have an unattractive appearance and require spider vein treatment, since broken capillaries do not typically repair themselves on their own.
Broken capillaries can happen very easily from washing your face too vigorously, through prolonged exposure to the sun, or facial injuries as well as from excessive consumption of alcohol. Alcohol can increase blood pressure and cause the broken blood capillaries in the face to dilate, and over time this can cause blood vessels to lock up and appear as rosacea on the face.
Natural Broken Capillaries Treatment
On this page are a number of natural remedies submitted by our readers for broken capillaries. Some of our popular cures are the combination of vitamin C and lysine, grape seed extract, vitamin K, and also a suggestion to avoid wine sulfites. Let us know if you try any of these remedies to fix broken capillaries; and if you know of a cure that isn't listed here, please feel free to share it with us.
Avoid Wine Sulfites
[YEA] 04/23/2013: Tanya from Mount Pleasant, Sc: "I just really wanted to share this info I have just discovered about myself. For the past 5 years I have had small broken capillaries on my chest that has spread to my face and even my arms, Its become quite embarressing. I am an avid red wine drinker. Pretty much my drink of choice , I spent a couple of weeks drinking beer instead and noticed my (spots) were a tad lighter, so I decided to give wine a break. It's now been a month and a half since I had a glass of wine. Major improvements! Apparently I'm allergic to the sulfites in wine, its a total self diagnosis but I can tell a major difference. I would recommend doing the research if you are having broken veins. One of the 1st reactions of people with a sulfite allergy is irritated skin. I truely believe this is my culprit. It's a bummer because I love my wine! There are sulfite free wines out there that I am soon going to try!"
Grape Seed Extract
[YEA] 06/07/2012: Afitch from Colorado Springs, Co, USA: "I was diagnosed with small vessel capilaritis - red spots on my legs that look like pupura. They would appear almost on a daily basis and take a week to fully heal and fade away. I went to 12 doctors and no one could tell me what to do for them. I found an article on the internet that suggested that oligomeric procyanidins OPCs have shown to improve capillary vessel strength.
I have been taking grape seed extract supplements (from the local health food store) for about two years now and have virtually no capilaritis now. I want to share this with people because it seems that most doctors do not know of anything you can for this condition. These grape seed supplements have helped me greatly. Andy"Replies
07/10/2012: Casafina from Sedona, Az replies: "Broken Capillaries on my nose for ever!!!! I just recently added Grape Seed Extract to my supplement list and it would appear to be working. I had first thought too much caffiene so I cut that out, then maybe I had a "booze" nose cut that out, then it was o still there must be years of sun damage. I had been covering with concealer and with in the first week of adding grapeseed extract I was able to go out with out any concealer. I take plenty of other supplements but my thinking is that it was the only thing that I had added after reading on here about it as a possible solution."
08/12/2012: Kitty from Rancho Cordova, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Andy! Can you please tell me how much of the Grape Seed Extract you have been taking? Once a day or more? In what form? Thanks kitty"
10/07/2012: Kitty from Rancho Cordova, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Casafina! Would u please tell us how much Grapeseed exract u r taking daily? Thank you for your time!
10/20/2012: Kay from Olmsted Falls, Oh replies: "I am so interested in using the grape seed extract for the broken capillaries around my nose. I would just like to know how much to use. Thanks so much. Kay"
01/19/2014: Brielle from Slc Ut replies: "With using this grape seed extract, do you take it orally? Have you tried it topically? Would it work if applied directly to the affected area?"
11/17/2013: Ang from Australia: "Hi, where can I purchase topical products for facial capillaries in Melbourne and what would u recommend? I cannot take large dose supplements due to a medical condition."Replies
11/18/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa replies: "Dear Ang,
Horse Chestnut may be helpful to you. If you can find or make a cream or oil, you can apply it to your face. This has helped people with broken capillaries and with varicose veins. I made a horse chestnut salve for my varicose veins (but haven't used it as they are not actually bothering me right now) by putting the nuts into a jar and covering with olive oil. I let it sit for 2 weeks (maybe longer) and strained out the nuts. You can add some vitamin E oil to preserve it and melt a little beeswax into it to make it a salve. But the oil extract alone would work the same.
Is it possible that your medical condition is contributing to the broken capillaries?
If you can add some cayenne pepper to your diet, that may be helpful as cayenne is very good for the blood vessels.
I am sorry I do not know where you would purchase horse chestnuts or a pre-made salve or cream where you live.
Another thing that would be easy and inexpensive to try is castor oil. This you should be able to get at a pharmacy. You can apply a small amount to the face each evening. You might want to use a pillowcase that isn't your favorite in case you get oil on it. It sounds like it would make your face oily (and it feels greasy at first) but it does not make your face oily, only softer.
Let us know what you try and what helps!
~Mama to Many~"
06/29/2012: Brendan from Winnipeg, Manitoba: "Hi I have (what I believe to be) Broken Capillaries under my eyes, the skin around my eyes are very dark and always very itchy I use eye drops and allegy medication to help it. Is there anyway to repair the Broken Capillaries so I dont always look so tired, when Im not?"
05/02/2010: Katt from Aurora, Co: "I am looking for remedies for Broken Capillaries. I have had a red face for about two years. I was in the hospital for three days and when I got home all the redness in my face was gone except for the Broken Capillaries. I had a pale face except for them. Now the redness is coming back. Does anyone have any rememdies I can try? Katt"Replies
05/03/2010: Lita209 from Sanford, Fl, Usa replies: "Katt: If you go under the Ailments tab, go under the letter B; you'll find broken capillaries and a lot of remedies and feedback. Good Luck!!"
01/15/2011: Linda from Wilmington, Nc replies: "Hello, I know that dark circles under the eyes are caused by broken capillaries, which then leak blood. Would these remedies help heal those capillaries? I have had dark circles ever since I was a child and am desperately trying to get rid of them!"
06/29/2011: Brown Owl from Staines, England Uk replies: "Linda from wilmington: dark circles under the eyes are a classic food intelerance symptom usually dairy be can be gluten. Try going dairy free for a month and see I there are any changes. Take a photo on day one and a photo on the last day to compare. If that does not work try going gluten free."
Vitamin C and Lysine
[YEA] 04/10/2013: Zoe from Ojai, California, USA: "This Really Works!!
I have been using this formula for about two weeks and am So Delighted to see the capillaries fading each day. They actually started diminishing after the First ingestion. I am taking 1000 VC & appr:4000 Lysine 2X daily. This is so affordable and after years of trying other modalities I am totally Thrilled!! Go For It, Zoe"Replies
04/10/2013: Colleen from Greenwich, Ny, Us replies: "Are you using whole foods supplements or synthetic? I started the same regime then read about the horrible side effects of ascorbic acid and how synthetic supplements ultimately deplete us of vitamins and minerals. I appreciate your feedback. Colleen"
11/27/2013: Chhivhung from Cambodia replies: "Hi...Zoe...
I have been searching for the best way to treat my capillaries on my check. I saw your comment which was about taking Vit C and Lysine. I would like to try it since there is a way to treat. I'll try all possible treatment, except Laser. Laser cause my skin to be sensitive and I can't face the direct sunlight now. So terrible. Before my skin was so nice only after I got the laser to treat my acne(mild) so it resulted so bad as today. I was so stupid to believe those people to get my skin treated. The most regret thing in myself. Anyways, I'd like to ask if your capillaries on you face or where? and how long did you take to get the result. So now there is no capillaries even a bit?"
[YEA] 04/07/2012: Allison from Los Angeles, California, Us : "I've had broken capillaries on my right cheek since I was a child. My dermatologist said it most likely was sun damage - makes sense since I grew up on the beach. I cannot begin to describe how much I loathe the appearance of it. I tried the laser treatment twice. Both times had AWFUL bruising on my face for a minimum of 2-3 weeks. After the bruising healed I noticed there was a slight difference but not much - debatable whether it was worth the terrible side effects from the laser... but I thought this was my only option.
My friend told me about this site last weekend so I decided to take a gander. I saw the Vitamin C and Lysine combo and started taking it immediately. It's been 5 days and I already notice the red capillaries are disappearing! They aren't 100% gone yet but very faint. I am noticing more of a difference with the vitamins than I did with the laser treatment - no doubt. Since it's only been 5 days I am hoping to see a bigger difference as time goes on? We shall see. If it starts to plateau, I think I will look into taking vit K and adding the bioflavanoid concoction from Kathy.
DOSE: I took 1000mg of Vitamin C and 1000mg of L-Lysine 2x daily. (once in the morning and once in the afternoon)"Replies
11/19/2013: Jb from Atlanta, GA replies: "Ascorbic acid is not Vit C. It is only one constituent of Vit C. Most ascorbic acid should be avoided because of inferior, adulterated composition. Instead, use a whole food form of Vit C from responsible companies. Do not waste your money on drug, grocery, Big Box store synthetic Vit C."
11/27/2013: Chhivhung from Cambodia replies: "Hi Allison, I would like to ask if now your redness all gone? and no more dilated red blood vessel on face, right? Cause I'm worried too much of my cheek. Both are red while I face sunlight."
02/01/2010: Luckylouie from Ocean Grove, Victoria, Australia: "To Jessica from Adelaide:
Ascorbic acid (vitamin c)is available in powder form from any health food store in Australia. Ask for the Melrose brand. A 100gram packet will cost around $9. Lysine is also available in tablet form from any health food store in Australia, but I bought it in powder form from the United States Ebay. Even with shipping charges this worked out cheaper than taking it in tablet form."
04/19/2010: Aginto from Toronto, On replies: "I have had broken capillaries around my nose from as far back as I can remember. I think I got them from picking at little tiny blackheads on my nose when I was an obsessive teenager. I've used concealer and foundation in various strengths over the years and I am just tired of covering it up, or looking like Rudolph the red nosed reindeer. There is nothing in the world like beautiful skin that's got absolutely minimal make-up on it. Oddly enough, I'm a make up artist, but having excellent skin and wearing minimal make-up is very important to me.
I'm now in my 30's. I do have very minor skin unevenness and a few little broken capillaries on my cheeks that you can't really notice unless I puff my cheeks out. I am taking better care of my skin than ever... but these pesky broken capillaries are making me crazy!
I tried the Vitamin C and Lysine thing... I was taking Vitamin C anywhere from 5000mg to 8000mg a day, with 3000 or 4000mg of Lysine (both spread out throughout the day) for about 3 or 4 weeks. I didn't notice a speck of difference. Maybe my body was really depleted and needed it for longer, so I'm starting it again and I'm going to see how much longer I need to go before I see results.
I also read a lot about Vitamin K. In Canada you can't buy a Vitamin K... you need a prescription for it (it's a coagulant) and in skincare, the strongest you can get it is 1%.
I recently found a seller on eBay who was selling 100mg Vitamin K capsules so I'm hoping they make it through the border okay. I also found another seller who is selling a face cream that is 5.5% Vitamin K. I recently bought a 20% Vitamin C face cream. I bought these all based on what I read here about the combined use of them and how it helped so many people with their broken capillaries.
I also bought organic oranges and yoghurt to make the Bioflavanoid Brew which I put together tonight...so I guess it wont be ready for a few more days, but I do have Citrus Bioflavonoid pills to get me through.
I'm very excited to try this regiment and see the results I have been wanting for years!"
01/10/2011: Linda from Spring Valley, Oh Usa replies: "What is the Bioflavinoid Brew?"
01/12/2011: Susan from Saint John, In replies: "See threads below for 09/03/2009 post From Kathy (Dubois, Pa)"
[WARNING!] 03/10/2012: Earthgirly from Mays Landing, Nj, Usa replies: "I would like to warn people about lysine in excess. I was taking a lysine pill multiple times a day having read about it here... And it apparently depleted my Vit B6 levels to the point where I had massive PMS and a few pimples (I never break out). This made me very high strung and depressed and I was not able to cope with anything and eventually had a nervous breakdown. I woud suggest not going to extremes or recommending extreme measures for what is after all a cosmetic problem that can be covered with powder or makeup. As an example Bare Escentuals sells a Redness Remedy powder with lysine that can supposedly cover and heal veins. This is a lot safer than megadosing with lysine pills."
06/16/2012: Sharon from Lancaster, Uk replies: "Sorry to hear that and thanks for flagging this. What were the exact quanties of Lysine you were taking? Thanks"
[NAY] 12/16/2009: Amanda from Davenport, Iowa, United States: "I tried 4 grams vitamin c and 4 grams of lysine daily for one month and saw no results for my broken capillaries."Replies
01/29/2012: Fuzzball from Nanuet, Ny, Usa replies: "Have you had your mineral levels checked? Low levels of Zinc, vitamin k, copper and seleium can cause weak and broken capillaries. You should be taking a good multi-vitamin with these in them. Also vitamin C and Vitamin E can help. If you suspect you have broken capillaries, try avoiding things with high sugar and fructose for awhile, because those can slow down the healing. Hope this helps. GOD BLESS."
[NAY] 04/22/2009: Amy from Charlotte, US: "Nay - I tried 4 mg of Vitamin C and 3 mg of Lysine daily for a month and did not see any positive results for my broken capillaries. I am not going to continue on this treatment. I am disappointed that it didn't work since a couple others had posted positive results."Replies
08/15/2009: Victoria Crumb from Dublin, Ireland replies: "Just wanted to answer the person number 1 who tried Lysine and Vita. C. in Mg. dosage. Everyone else used grams - she said she used 4 and 3 mg respectively. Wanted to ask her did she make a type mistake, or a dosage mistake? No one picked up on this. V.C."
[YEA] 07/11/2008: Kim from Chicago, IL: "Broken Capillaries (cure)
I have suffered with rosacea for almost 20 years and have several broken blood vessels across my nose and cheeks - I have had laser surgery to get rid of them, but they always come back. I was actually going to schedule another expensive laser appointment, but decided to check Earth Clinic first. I have started the Pauling Therapy and have been taking sodium ascorbate vit c and lysine for about two weeks and amazingly the diffuse redness is fading and the broken cappilaries are going away! My fiance has noticed too! I am just thrilled to have found this treatment. I started by taking 4grams Vit C and 3grams Lysine once a day during the first week and the second week I started taking it in the morning and evening. I just printed a pdf chapter exerpt off the website: http://practicingmedicinewithoutalicense.com/protocol/excerpt_chp7.pdf.
I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but I did skim it enough to read that the recommended doseage should be broken up in divided doses throughout the day. Hope this helps many people. :)"Replies
11/20/2008: Minni from New York, NY replies: "Did you have any complications when taking the Vit C and Lysine? When you first started seeing a difference, was it with the 4grams Vit C and 3gramd Lysine or ...? Thanks!!!"
03/10/2009: Amy from Charlotte, NC replies: "This information is fascinating and I will try the vitamin C & Lysine to help with my broken capillaries. Could you tell me once this starts to get rid of the broken capillaries, do I have to continue to stay on the high doses of Vit C & Lysine or can I stop after seeing desired results? Many thanks!"
04/04/2009: Thomas from Berlin, Germany replies: "Have anyone tried it? would like to get some feedback on it. I also want to get rid of my Blood vessels around my nose;.)"
[NAY] 11/08/2007: Tara from San Francisco, CA: "This is feedback for the VITAMIN C AND LYSINE COMBINATION treatment for broken capillaries. I've had a few broken capillaries since childhood - around the nose from excessive nose blowing due to hay fever, a small one under an eye, and one on a finger. For about 2 years I was taking 1-2 grams of vitamin C per day as a general health booster and one standard lysine pill (can't remember the dose) per day to prevent cold sores. I didn't notice any change in the broken capillaries. My doses were a lot lower than yours, but I took them for such a long time that you'd think there'd be some improvement. Oddly, the broken capillary on my finger disappeared spontaneously a few years after that. Lysine and vitamin C are both cheap though, so it's worth a shot. But if you try it, I'd recommend taking the huge doses described."Replies
04/06/2009: Jay from Selangor, Malaysia replies: "Read that over dosage of lysine will damage the liver..if so..how to take 3g each day for curing broken capillaries? anyone know abt this?"
04/07/2009: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "To Answer Jay's question re Vitamin C & L-lysine:
I looked up Linus Pauling by searching for Linus Pauling Institute and found that the recommended dosage for cardiovascular health was 3-6 grams of each daily but I usually take 8 grams of each daily for colds, flu, herpes simplex without any adverse reactions. Linus Pauling's theory is that cardiovascular problems are caused by a deficiency of vitamin C which is necessary for building collagen. Vitamin C (specifically ascorbic acid) works as an enzyme to convert proline and lysine to hydroxyproline and hydroxylsine which are building blocks of collagen. You will find much interesting information on studies that proved his theory, and other studies that found men who were low on vitamin C had many more heart problems (including infarcts) and that many patients with chronic heart disease and atherosclerosis regained normal cardiac function with his therapy. Two other vitamins (E & A) were also recommended for cardiac health. Other studies proving his therapy cleared the arteries in a few months time are discussed. The fact that orthodox medicine (pharmaceuticals, hospitals, AMA have managed to keep this from being widely circulated, IMHO it probably works so well that the entire medical field would have suffered economic distress due to a drastic decrease in patients having CAB's and other surgeries and expensive procedures related to heart disease.
In view of current reports of everyone being low on magnesium and knowing that magnesium has a lot to do with heart rhythm and blood pressure, a good magnesium supplement probably is in order also
Now I have a question for you. Can you give me your reference to lysine causing liver damage because the only thing I could find is that both C & lysine are known to be safe at least up to 4 grams each per day and 2 others that said no adverse reactions to lysine are known and lysine reactions are not very well reported. My personal experience is that both are safe up to 8 grams of each per day. You will find that most literature states that GI irritation occurs above l0 grams of Vit. C per day orally but much larger dosages have been given IV without adverse reactions ."
04/08/2009: Jay from Selangor, Malaysia replies: "Thanks so much for doing the research for me...from what i search in the net, it says damage liver and kidney if taken in high dosages and said that 1g a day is the proper dosage..so i wasnt sure whether taking 3g is safe. Thanks for enlightening that 3 g is still safe. I will continue with my 3g L-lysine , 4 g Vit C a day regime then. However i will be glad if you could point to me which website your were getting these helpful info..it will be great help...thanks"
[SIDE EFFECTS] 05/05/2009: Jay from Selangor, Malaysia replies: "After taking 3 g of L-Lysine and 4g of vit C a day for consecutively 5 days, my bladder is painful when urinating. Then I stopped for 2 weeks, the pain stops. I continued taking the same dosage again and on 7th day, i got the same pain again...is this a side effect? I think this will lead me to develop kidney stones as mentioned in some website."
01/28/2012: Dlmaui from Haiku, Hawaii, Usa replies: "For Jay: This is from the Linus Pauling institute webpage: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminK/
Although allergic reaction is possible, there is no known toxicity associated with high doses of the phylloquinone (vitamin K1) or menaquinone (vitamin K2) forms of vitamin K (20). The same is not true for synthetic menadione (vitamin K3) and its derivatives. Menadione can interfere with the function of glutathione, one of the body's natural antioxidants, resulting in oxidative damage to cell membranes. Menadione given by injection has induced liver toxicity, jaundice, and hemolytic anemia (due to the rupture of red blood cells) in infants; therefore, menadione is no longer used for treatment of vitamin K deficiency (4, 6). No tolerable upper level (UL) of intake has been established for vitamin K.""
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 06/28/2012: Gina from Victoria, Bc replies: "Hi, I've had two bright red spots (each around the size of a canadian dime) on my right cheek since birth. Over time, this area has become prone to acne due to the concealer I usually wear to lighten the spots. I've been told these are clusters of broken capillaries and have tried several laser removal procedures, all of which were unsuccessful.
I've been taking 1000mg of both lysine and vitamin-c in the mornings and evenings for 3 the past days and am noticing that the spots are lightening. I still see individual blood vessels but the overall patches are fading significantly. I can tell because it's taking less concealer to fully cover them on a daily basis. I used to have to apply 3-5 layers on the area and then would feather it out with a makeup brush. For the past few days I've been fine with a light layer. I'm going to continue the treatment and might actually increase to 2000mg twice daily if the progress slows down."
[YEA] 09/18/2007: Louise from Ocean Grove, Australia: "I have had broken capillaries on my face and neck since I was in my teens. Recently I read that broken capillaries anywhere on the body could be a sign of heart disease as they show that smaller capillaries in the body are under stress and possibly blocked with plaque. Since I have a family history of heart disease (mother, grandmother, grandfather and two great aunts) I started taking 6 grams of vitamin c and 3 grams of lysine daily. This is the basic Pauling protocol for the prevention of arteriosclerosis. It has been three weeks since I started taking this and the thread veins on my face and down near my ankles have nearly disappeared. Also my feet are warmer. Both of these supplements can be bought cheaply in bulk powder form, so for anyone who has a family history of heart disease or broken capillaries this may well be worth trying. For the record, I have taken large doses of vitamin c, complete with biovflavanoids and rutin, for years. The vitamin c by itself has never helped. It was only after I added the lysine that they virtually disappeared."Replies
06/02/2008: Michelle Higgs from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia replies: "I find your site fascinating. However, I seem to be having difficulty finding your actual cures. For example, cure for broken capillaries. I search, and get pages that have some information re the problem, the posts from other people about how the cure worked for them, but the actual amounts to take - where do I find that. For example, a cure for broken capillaries is Vit C and lysine - how much should I take of each? I see that Louise from Ocean Grove, Australia suggest amounts, but does Earth Clinic have recommendations, are all recommendations from people like Louise? Looking forward to your reply. Cheers, Michelle."
EC: If Earth Clinic has a recommendation, it gets posted on the top of a page. Most of the time, however, you will be reading suggestions from our readers. Our frequent independent contributors (i.e., Ted and Joyce) often make recommendations, so look for their posts too!
08/24/2008: Rebecca from Galt, California replies: "To Michelle Higgs from Brisbane. I think they are referring to the Linus Pauling Institute website. He has done extensive research on Vitamin C."
01/31/2010: Jessica from Adelaide, Sa replies: "Hi Louise from Ocean Grove,
I have been searching for a powder form of lysine and Vitamin C but have been unable to find one which contains both. I am currently taking a blackmores supplement with lysine, Vitamin C and Zinc but it is $30 for 100 tablets. To take it in such large doses as you have taken would require me to buy a new packet every week. Where did you get the powder form of lysine and Vitamic C?"
07/15/2012: Anna from Bromley, England replies: "I have broken capillaries all over my face and it really gets me down. If someone could answer my question. I would be really happy:) I have just started taking lysine and vitamin c about 3 days ago and I have a lysine tablet and vit c powder and I was wandering how do you take 6 grams of vit c because its quite a lot. I have been putting it in my drink :) anyway if someone could answer it would make me happy! Also for some people who have broken capillaries due to family history how do you get rid of them best:) and did the lysine and vitamin c work ?! Thanks. Anna:)"
Vitamin C and Vitamin K
03/20/2014: John from Uk: "Hi, I am 30/male, I have had a broken blood vessel on my in the middle of my forehead which over time has got worse..it gets me really down and as a result I struggle to socialise and cope going out.. I dont really want to use make up as I am male. I am looking for the best cream or anything basically that will reduce redness and give me confidence again.. I've heard Vit C, Vit J can help? Has anybody got any ideas? Appreciate the help... Thanks, John"Replies
03/20/2014: Liz from Boston, Massachusetts replies: "I used a Vitamin K lotion for a broken vessel I had on my leg years ago, and it worked well. It doesn't work overnight, but if you're diligent, you should notice significant fading, perhaps even total elimination."
03/20/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc replies: "John from UK,
Here's what I'd try on a broken blood vessel...I'd apply topically Vitamin E Oil as "E" works well in veins and arteries. And I'd take orally 200 IUs daily (increase to 400 IUs after a month). If one blood vessel broke, that might tell you a problem exists and others may be in jeopardy. E will help repair and protect. Take only NATURAL E and not synthetic E....d-alpha tocopherol and not dl-alpha tocopherol. The "l" after the "d" means the E is synthetic.
If topical use of the E doesn't help I'd continue to take the E orally as the healing might take place from the inside out. Give it at least 3 months of oral consumption. I've been on 1, 000 IUs of E daily for 30 years."
Vitamin C and Vitamin K Cream
[YEA] 09/02/2009: Lisa from Phoenix, Az: "i have broken capillaries on my face- i heard vitamin k cream would help, but even after 2 months constant application had no results- however when applied daily with vitamin c cream i am seeing NOTICABLE improvement in only 10 days!!! Apply vitamin c cream generously, which absorbs into skin then apply vitamin k cream thickly on top and let dry--leave on as LONG as possssible."Replies
09/03/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "You might also want to take Vit-K and bioflavanoids internally, too, because what is happening to your face is also happening internally. I had broken capillaries on my face, too, and although I was taking 3,000mg of Vit-C daily, I saw no improvement until I added a lemon/orange peel concoction I made, but the real improvement came when I added a Vit-K supplement to my regime. Bye-bye broken capillaries! Bioflavanoids and Vit-K are also important for healthy bones and periodontal ligaments. The recipe for the Bioflavanoid Brew is as follows:
-3 or 4 organic oranges or a mix of organic oranges and lemons to equal the amount of oranges in the recipe (it is important that they be organic because you are using the peels)
-1 tablespoon sea salt or pink salt
-1/4 cup whey (not whey powder...drain a quart of plain whole-milk yogurt with active cultures to obtain whey for this recipe)
-1/2 cup filtered water or other kind of non-chlorinated water
-1/4 cup of dried sugarcane juice or honey
Proceedure: cut the fruit into quarters the long way and then cut the quarters into very thin slices the short way (a food processor works great for this...use the thinest slicing blade you have)
-Place sliced fruit into a widemouth quart canning jar and press down lightly with a wooden spoon or some other sort of non-reactive implement.
-Combine the rest of the ingredients well and pour over the fruit in the jar. The fruit/liquid needs to be at least one inch below the top of the jar.
-Cover tightly and keep at room tempurature for 3 days before transfering to the refrigerator. You read that right...this is a fermented product and needs to sit at room tempurature so that the lactic acid bacteria in the whey can grow and preserve the product*
Eat about a tablespoon full per day. I fish it out of the liquid with a fork. It has a unique flavor...bitter but still kind of sweet/sour/ salty. It is something of an aquiried taste, but it works wonders and is much cheaper and more effective than bioflavanoid capsules. It also has the benefit of being a live-food/raw-food product and is also very good for the digestion because of the lacto-bacteria from the whey.
*If the product developes a little bit of white mold, just remove the mold with the tip of a spoon.
p.s. I don't remember where I got this recipe, but I would like to give my sincere thanks to whoever invented it...hats off to you, whoever you are!"
09/06/2009: Tricia from Ireland replies: "Kathy, this sounds like good advice and I would like to try your recipe. I'm pretty new to all this so could you explain exactly how to make your whey e.g Is this just the liquis that forms in natural yoghurt and also is sugarcane juice the same as blackstrap molasses. Sorry if I sound stupid. Also, when I was looking for vitamin k supplements all I could find was vit K2. Is this the right vitamin? Thank you."
09/06/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "To obtain whey with active cultures, just buy a quart of plain, old-fashioned regular-fat yogurt with active cultures. Line a strainer with a coffee filter or paper towel or a very clean hankerchiet set it over a catch basin of some kind, like a bowl or small non-reactive pot, and fill the coffee filter-lined strainer with the yogurt. Cover the whole rig with plastic wrap and set it in the 'fridge for several hours or over-night. The whey will drain from the yogurt and collect in the catch basin. That yellowish liquid that is in the catch basin in the morning is your whey. A quart of yogurt will yield about a pint of whey, and the whey will keep for a very long time. The strained yogurt is wonderful with fruit.
Dried sugar-cane juice is not the same as molasses, but you could probably use molasses, although the taste of the finished bioflavanoid brew would be very different. I cannot give you another name for the dried cane juice because it is a brand-name, but if you put "dried sugar cane juice" into a search engine, it might give it to you. You could also use honey, but if you do use less, because honey is very sweet. I like your idea of using Black Strap Molasses, though. I thing I will give BSM a whirl the next time I make the recipe.
p.s. Yes, Vitamin K-2 is correct.
p.p.s. There is no such thing as a stupid question."
09/08/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "Hello, I have a question regarding the vitamin K2. There are two different kinds of K2 (that I know of), one, MK-7 from a fermented soy source such as Natto, and MK-4, from animal products such as grass fed butter, fish eggs, egg yolks, etc. They are supposed to work differently. May I ask what is the source of the K2 you use? Thank you very much."
09/08/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "My question was actually to Kathy from Dubois, Pa. Sorry I wasn't clear."
09/09/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "I looked up Vit K-2 and Vit MK-7 and they appear to be the same thing to me, except that the site I went to claims that MK-7 is more "bioavailable" than regular K-2 and that it is "derived from" natto. My question is: why bother with the extra steps of fermenting soy beans into natto and then "deriving" MK-7 from them? At nearly $40.00 a bottle for MK-7 compared to $9.00 a bottle for plain old K-2, it hardly seems a cost effective way to get Vitamin K, even if it is a little more bioavailable. Or why not just eat natto instead of buying a really expensive derivative? Boy, talk about a "value added" product! Then, too, someone who is very soy-sensative might not do well with a product "derived" from natto.
And just as a side note, be sure to take Vitamin K, in what ever form you choose to use, with some fat, because "K" is a fat-soluable vitamin."
09/15/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "I would like to know how many mcg of vitamin K2 were taken per day. The recommended dosages of K2 range from 50 mcg to 1000 mcg. Thank you very much."
09/16/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "I usually take one 200 mcg capsule per day, but you have to find your own correct dosage. If you have alot of spider veins, broken capillaries, easy bruising, etc, you might want to start on a higher dosage and then cut back as you get better. Or you might want to start with a small dosage and add more if you don't see any results. One of the ways the drug industry casts a bad light on vitamins and minerals in their studies is to give too small or too high a dosage and then say, "See, vits and mins either don't work or cause harm".
p.s. Vitamin E is a Vitamin K antagonist, and balances the effect of Vitamin K in the body. In other words, Vitamin K promotes blood clotting, Vitamin E inhibits blood clotting. So you have to take your Vitamin E status into account, too, and if you take Vit E, you might want to take it several hours before or after you take the Vit K.
p.p.s. Vitamin and mineral status even varies from day to day. I can tell by how I look and feel that sometimes I might need more Vitamin K or Magnesium or whatever for some reason. I have gotten to know my body and its language pretty well, and am always working to get to know it better and listen to what it is saying to me. Our bodies talk to us all the time, we just have to learn how to listen."
09/16/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "Thank you very much. Is this 200 mcg of MK-4, or MK-7? It should say on the bottle. I have had easy bruising since childhood."
09/16/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "It just says "Vitamin K-2 (as Menaquinone)", so whether its MK-4 or MK-7, I don't know, but it works for me."
09/16/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "That answers my question, thank you so much. Menaquinone is MK-7 (natural), as opposed to Menatetrenone or MK-4, which is synthetic. If I may share briefly my experience with this, maybe it will help someone. Yesterday I got the natural MK-7 (menaquinone), and took 200mcg. I felt absolutely awful, horrible food cravings and groggy, unmotivated and semi-confused. Today I took half that amount, 100mcg, along with 1 tsp. high vitamin cod liver oil (I had read that the K-2 and cod oil work well together), and lo and behold, felt more wonderful than I have in a long time, full of energy, motivation, and not hungry for 7 hours after breakfast. Not real hungry then either. Very unusual for me. Obviously the synergy provided the nutrients I needed, whereas the day before it depleted me of nutrients (food cravings). I'll let you know if it helps with the bruising."
09/17/2009: Tricia from Ireland replies: "Just out of curiosity, Kathy, how long have you been using vit k and flavenoids (I should have your recipe ready by Saturday) and what kind of result did you notice? With Ted's remedy for rosacea I noticed a huge difference in the first few days and then it slowed right down. Still working but slow."
09/17/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "I can't be sure exactly how long, but its gotta be about a year now, or maybe a little longer. One thing I noticed when I started using it is that the texture of my skin became finer...by which I mean my pores got smaller, especially in the T-zone...and also firmer. Also, the crepeyness around my eyes went way down. It just seemed to improve the over-all condition of my skin in a big way. But like you said...LOTS of improvement in the very first few days to a week, but then reached a plateau. But that is to be expected, I guess, as I was about 52 when I started using it, and so I am bound to have some damage that it is too late for me to undo. Damn...mortality sure bites, doesn't it?!"
09/17/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "That's wonderful, Gean! Isn't it great when you hit on something that works? And what you write about food cravings being part of the body's language, and finding a combination (synergy) that gives you the nurtients you need, is so very, very true. And it may be a synergy that is unique to you. To me, that is why the idea that a doctor can write a "prescription" is absurd. What helped you may not help somebody else, even though the symptoms are the same, and treating someone STATISTICALLY, like doctors do, guarantees that more and more people are not really helped at all, because all the statistical way of medicine does is suppress symptoms, NOT cure disease. Biochemical individuality is real, and of the utmost importance in the treatment of disease. And yes, do let us know how it goes.
OK, I got off my soap box (for the time being), LOL!"
[YEA] 11/04/2009: Tricia from Ireland replies: "To Ted & Kathy fron Dubois- Thank you. Ted's remedy for rosacea (HP & borax) has taken the permanent red flushing out of my skin.
Thank you Ted.
And Kathy's advice for the spider veins has reduced remaining redness drastically. A friend whom I hadn't seen for a while kept asking me if I was feeling alright cos I'm looking so pale. I still have broken veins and some redness so I know she means paler than normal. For the capillaries I had been taking Vit c 1000mg, Vit k 100mcg. Also using Vit c and K (separate products) skin cream. Then I added the flavenoid recipe and bingo within 2 weeks there was a marked improvement. Between the two regimes I can see freckles that hadn't been noticable for nearly ten years. With basic make-up I can make them disappear altogether. And also my skin has become much firmer.
So thank you too, Kathy. A big yea for your recipe."
12/10/2009: Tanya from Toronto, On replies: "Question to Kathy from Dubois: I am not clear whether I should use whole orange/lemon with skin/peel for your concotion recipe, or skin/peel only? Thanks!"
06/18/2010: Janna from London, Uk replies: "I see that Earth Clinic abridged some of the characters I used when telling about the dosages I'd been taking to the point that it looks confusing to say the least. Nevertheless, let me get my point across: I started with 3000 mg of Vit C and 3000 mg of Lysine and 100 mg of Vit K2 and two table spoons of Kathy's concoction. A bit more than a week into it I increased Vit C to 4000 mg, Lysine to 4000 mg while the rest kept at the same level. The results after two weeks as I said are terrific."
EC: Hi Janna,
We didn't touch your post, but perhaps our database removed some characters unbeknownst to us!
06/18/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Does anyone maybe know whether the same treatment would work for cherry angiomas? After all they also must be broken capilaries, or am I wrong? Just it shows in form of a little drop of blood. I have had them ever since I was pregnant, quite young then and I have had them burnt with laser quite a few times. They seem to be gone for a while but thousands new ones are already forming. Some advice would be very much appreciated! Ps - I also get them on my forehead, not on my face though!"
[YEA] 06/18/2010: Janna from London, Uk replies: "This is my big thanks too to Kathy and Kim from Chicago (who mentioned about Pauling Therapy).
I've had very fragile capillaries all my life and had them treated on my face once with an IPL. It helped for a bit but then they returned. A few years ago I was diagnosed with rosacea on top of this. I tried metronidazol gel but it only worked for so long. It went so bad recently that my face normally pale would have a bloody red nose and redness on the cheeks close to the nose. This striking skin contrast and inability to do anything about it (metro no longed helped) was driving me nuts and prompted me to research this website.
I started taking Vit C, 3000 mg Lysine, 3000 mg Vit K2, 100 mg of Kathy's bioflavanoid concoction. Of course, the huge dosages of Vit C and Lysine were frightening at the beginning. But then I read info on this scientist, Pauling, and the research he had done and that he is actually a Nobel Prize winner for Chemistry as well as for Peace; it made me convinced that such large dosages shouldn't be harmful. In fact he advocates for even larger dosages than these. And so as Kathy and Tricia say the results are dramatic already in the very few days but then they level out somewhat.
After two weeks I see a huge improvement - my capillaries are almost gone (faded or dissolved to the point that they are barely visible) and my face complexion is awesome with just a bit of redness on the nose but none on the adjacent cheeks. I can see that the pores are shrinking too (these two weeks I have also been drinking non-pasteurized ACV and putting it on my face before moisturizer at bed time) but this may partially be the effect of ACV. In the last five days I increased the dosages of Vit C and Lysine to 4000 mg 4000 mg as I saw enough evidence that it was working right and plan to stay there for the time being. So once again my big thanks to Kathy and Kim from Chicago for sharing their knowledge and thoughts with us."
04/16/2011: Moll from Kerry, Ireland replies: "Hi, Just wondering what brand vitamin k cream is best to use on top of a vit c cream, many thanks."
06/24/2011: Steve from New York, Ny, Usa replies: "Kathy,
For your lemon/orange peel concoction, do you also eat the orange peel or just drink the liquid?"
08/09/2011: Kr from Ny replies: "Kathy -I have prepared the bioflavonoid brew and have a few questions. Do you eat just the oranges and leave the liquid behind? Also do you eat the peels?
08/12/2011: Leily D. from New Bedford, Ma replies: "I'm going out to buy all the necessary ingredients for Kathy's protocol. I haven't been this excited/hopeful is a long time. I've had facial flushing for 15 years and nothing has helped. Now I'm left with broken capillaries. A nutritionist (who I was hoping would help me) told me today there is no way of helping those capillaries that are already damaged, but that I could prevent further damage with Vit C and bioflavinoids. I'm hoping now that he's only half right. Kathy, do you also have a skin care regime you follow? Did this protocol actually heal your broken vessels? Thanks so very much. I will report back."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 08/15/2011: Leily D. from New Bedford, Ma replies: "I've been taking 4000mg of Vit C and Lysine for the past 3 days and have noticed increase facial flushing. Did anyone else experience this? Any thoughts? Thanks!"
01/04/2012: Lou Lou from Berlin, Germany replies: "Hi, for the Bioflavinoid recipe, someone posed two questions that I have too.. Do you eat just the oranges and leave the liquid behind? Also do you liquidise the peels as part of the mixture? Thanks"
01/29/2012: Fuzzball from Nanuet, Ny, Usa replies: "Only take 1000mgs of Vit C and 1000mgs of Lysine at one time. Divide the doses over the day and the flushing should subside."
05/03/2012: Nettie from Salem, Mo., Usa replies: "To, Kathy from Dubois..... Do you also take Lysine with vit C and K-2 along with your concoction? If so, please give exact amnts. of each. After 3 days I am to refrigerate the mix.... How long is it good for in the frig?"
05/19/2012: "Hi - what if you're on a low carb diet like I am and cannot have honey, sugar, etc.? Can you sweeten it with Splenda?"
05/19/2012: Iris from Altamonte Springs, Florida replies: "How to make kathy's bioflavonoids brew or concoction. Where can I go from the website to see the information?"
03/27/2013: Colleen from Greenwich, Ny, Us replies: "I also have broken capillaries on my face and severe spider veins on my calves and shins. I've read about DMSO being a solvent and allowing any substances to be absorbed after applying the DMSO. My question is would the Vit. K and C cream be more affective if applied after the DMSO? I think I might try it but is there any side effects with excessive Vit k or C cream? Colleen"