Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Acidophilus and Garlic
- Acidophilus, B12, Folic Acid
- Acidophilus, Folic Acid
- Acidophilus, Goldenseal
- Acidophilus, Vitamin E, Hydrogen Peroxide Douche
- ACV Bath, Folic Acid, Acidophilus
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Probiotics
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Acidophilus
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Coconut Oil
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide, Yogurt
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Yogurt
- B Complex With Folic Acid
- Bacterial Vaginosis Treatment Tips
- Baking Soda Douche
- Betadine, Probiotics, Vinegar and Yogurt
- Boric Acid
- Boric Acid and Acidophilus
- Boric Acid and Fenugreek
- Boric Acid, Coconut Oil, Probiotics
- BV and Urinary Tract Infections
- BV and Yeast Infections
- BV Cause Theories
- BV Tips
- Coconut Oil
- Cold Showers
- Colloidal Silver
- Combo Treatment for BV
- Condom Brands
- Diagnosing BV
- Dietary Changes
- Douche, Folic Acid, Acidophilus
- Eliminate Caffeine
- Essential Oils
- Fermented Cabbage Leaf
- Folic Acid
- Folic Acid and Acidophilus
- Folic Acid, Apple Cider Vinegar Douche
- Folic Acid, Garlic
- Folic Acid, Probiotics
- Folic Acid, Sage Tea
- Garlic Douche
- Garlic, Probiotics
- Garlic, Yogurt
- Garlic, Yogurt, Vitamin D
- General Feedback
- Grapefruit Juice Douche
- Grapefruit Seed Extract Douche and MSM
- Gycerol Monolaurate
- Homeopathic Remedies
- Homeopathy, Folic Acid, Acidophilus
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Hydrogen Peroxide Douche
- Hydrogen Peroxide Douche and Folic Acid
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Apple Cider Vinegar, Vinegar Douche
- Hydrogen Peroxide, B Vitamins, Folic Acid
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Baking Soda
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Folic Acid, Acidophilus
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Probiotics
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Spring Water
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Tea Tree Douche
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Yogurt
- Indonesian Remedies
- Kacip Fatimah (Herb)
- Kefir, Oregano Oil
- Lactic Acid, Prebiotics
- Latex Allergy
- Lemon Juice
- Low Carb Diet
- Moxibustion, Kimchi, Yogurt
- Multiple Remedies
- Multivitamin, Probiotics
- Oak Galls
- Olive Leaf Extract
- Oregano Oil
- Over the Counter
- Packing Your Fanny With Tissue
- Parasite Cleanse
- Pineapple Juice
- Povidone Iodine, Vitamin C
- Probiotics, Apple Cider Vinegar
- Probiotics, Colloidal Silver, Garlic
- Probiotics, Folic Acid, B12
- Probiotics, Hydrogen Peroxide, Coconut Oil
- Probiotics, Vitamin C
- Probiotics, Vitamin C, Garlic
- Probiotics, Yogurt
- Remedies Needed
- Sea Salt Baths
- Stop Using Soap
- Tea Tree Oil
- Teenagers With BV
- Tomato Juice
- Treating Partners for BV
- Vitamin B6
- Vitamin C
- Vitamin C, Garlic
- Vitamin D
- Wrong Antibiotics
- Yogurt, Oregano Oil
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Probiotics Treatment for Bacterial Vaginosis
Probiotics can be taken orally or vaginally to re-establish colonies of beneficial bacteria in the vaginal environment. Probiotic pills (they should be refrigerated!) are available that specifically target BV and similar conditions. Not all probiotics will have the same effect, so take your time in finding the right probiotic mix.
01/04/2013: M from Dayton, Oh: "Hello ladies! I am finally BV free!!!! I found this site a few months ago and wanted to let everyone know how I got rid of the horrid thing. I had been fighting BV for about a year and half and could never get rid of it or it would just come back during the next menstrual cycle.... Which was sooo frustrating!! And now I haven't had BV in almost 3 months!! The key is to take Clindamycin 300 mg twice a day for 7 days. I would also recommend right when you start taking the antibiotics to also take 1 pill/day of Yeast Homeopathic Medicine (for possible yeast infection caused by antibiotic), 1 pill/day of Rephresh probiotic, and 1 pill/day of acidophilus (to help build the good bacteria back and to keep the pH level normal). I stopped taking the yeast medicine a couple of weeks after I had finished the Clindamycin and I just stopped taking the probiotics and next month I'll quit taking the acidophilus. I had tried just about everything for this and I believe that the Clindamycin was what finally killed it all off. I am so excited about this and I hope that it works for you all too!!! I will have an update in a couple of months after I stop taking the acidophilus to let you know how it goes! Good luck!!! :-)P.S. If you still can't get rid of the BV and are still experiencing foul smelling discharge... Which, I know can be very embarrassing... Then take a probiotic pill everyday and it will help tremendously!"
[YEA] 10/16/2012: Kymn from Tulsa, Ok: "I just wanted to let everyone know that my 15 year old had been taking an antibiotic for acne for about 7 months and wound up with BV. She was miserable with odor, discharge, all that. I searched and searched for her an answer and found out that it is a particular type of probiotic that you need (multi-strain). I wish I had the link but I found what she needed on vitamin website.
[Probiotics w/ Reuteri] capsuls
It cleared her up within 10-14 days. She was very happy and continued taking them for a couple of more weeks. No side effects. It has not returned. (She is no longer on that anti-biotic either)
Hope this helps! It did her!"
[YEA] 09/24/2012: Health Nut from Toronto, Ontario, Canada: "I'd like to begin by thanking everybody for posting your experiences. This site has been extremely helpful.
I first got BV at the end of November 2011. I had no idea what was wrong with me but I knew it wasn't a yeast infection and I knew it wasn't normal. I went to my family doctor as I recommend everyone should. She did not examine me but diagnosed me with BV and prescribed Flagyl. I took it as a vaginal suppository. It seemed to clear it up. I went to my gyno in January 2012 and had a test to be sure and unfortunately it was still there. Results came in just as symptoms came back. I now tried Flagyl in pill form. It made me quite ill but again seemed to clear it up. Again, that only seemed to last for a couple of months before symptoms were back. I did not want to be on antibiotics constantly or even every few months so I started looking at alternatives.
Thanks to this site, I found some. I started taking probiotics every day. I had taken them while on antibiotics but not after. So taking them daily was working but only as a control. As long as I remembered to take them, I was symptom free, but if I skipped a day, symptoms came back. I tried high doses for several days to see if I could regain balance, but again when I stopped taking them, the symptoms still came back. So I finally went back to my gyno, and she prescribed clindamycin as a cream to be used intravaginally. That was in late July 2012. I continued taking probiotics which you should do whenever taking any type of antibiotic. Symptoms disappeared. I went back about a month later and there was no BV!! But despite taking probiotics, I still ended up with a yeast infection. Hopefully the clindamycin will have taken care of it completely and it doesn't come back in a couple of months.
I will say, like most here, probiotics are a must. Your doctor may not have much to say about it, even mine said "It's not what we're taught", but BV and yeast are both about an imbalance of bacteria, and probiotics help maintain or restore that balance. I've continued taking them regularly and hope this is the end of BV for me. Best of luck to you all!"
06/03/2012: Sarah from San Jose, Ca: "After trying EVERYTHING for BV that lingered for more than a year and a half I tried using Femdophilus from the refrigerated section of Whole Foods. I took it by mouth twice a day, and then switched to vaginally, nothing happened. I inserted 7 or 10 tablets at once one day. Bam! Cured. No pain during sex, no dryness or itching. Completely better and such a relief! If you've tried everything I suggest you try a large dose of probiotics at once. It might be just what your vagina needs to combat gardnerella."
05/20/2012: Hopeful from San Jose, California, Usa: "I am so thankful for the tips/ experience that you all have shared! Although I feel frustrated and scared I also feel empowered to beat this thing! My bv symptoms aren't as bad as some of you have mentioned, mainly its just a weird nasty odor but I'm also concerned because I read that it can increase your chance of getting pelvic immflamatory disease which could lead to infertility. I am on implanon and have been in a relationship for four years, I am lucky because I told my bf about this and he's being great about it. Anyways, I mentioned being on implanon bc since I dont need to worry about pregnancy I let him ejaculate inside all the time. Now that I've researched BV I know that that is probably why I have it.
I'm trying to figure out a plan of action to get rid of this. I've already bought pro-biotics (Lactobacillus rhamnosus and rheuteri and acidophilus) along with that I plan on buying a 6 day treatment (vh) of vaginal inserts. My main question is whether or not I should use the prescription that my doctor gave me, it is a gel/lotion form of antibiotics (haven't actually gotten it yet from the pharmacy). I've read that for the most part the prescriptions have only helped temporarily for people followed by reccurence and/or yeast infections. This makes me not want to try the prescription if it will just kill all the bad and good bacteria in there and possibly lead me to a yeast infection. On the other hand, I am worried that there is too much bad bacteria in my vagina that's causing this and not taking the antibiotics would mean that the bad bacteria will remain in there. I haven't yet contacted my doctor about all this bc I forgot my online password and am waiting to get on in the mail, but as soon as I can I will, when I do though I'm a bit hesitant to follow my doctors advice since most doctors do not seem educated about causes or effective treatments for this. Any suggestions/ advice from you lovely ladies would be greatly appreciated!"
[YEA] 04/17/2012: Magicgirl from East Bay, Ca: "Ladies, there is an innovative, effective Vaginal Probiotic now on the market. It has excellent reviews, and the results are nothing short of miraculous! It's formulated for vaginal use, and is a super-concentrated blend of 11 probiotics specifically for use inside the vagina... No need to use oral probiotics "down there" ever again with this magical stuff! I rid myself of years of repeat BV and Yeast infections that prescriptions could not treat. I am so happy and confident again, and my sex life with my husband has returned... I could cry tears of joy! (btw, I buy mine on Amazon, but the company also has a very informative website where you can buy from too)"Replies
11/11/2013: Mari from Hawaii replies: "What kind of probiotics did you use? Can youu give me the name or the first four letters? Thanks"
[YEA] 03/02/2012: Demi from Ny: "I just wanted to share my experience suffering with BV. I NEVER had a problem with vaginal infections in my life.... Until I took Prilosec. I did not suffer from acid reflux but gastrisis. I was told this mecidation was safe. However a month after starting it I noticed for the first time in my life, brown discharge. So I just want to throw this out there for woman who might be suffering from BV. GET OFF the anti acid medications... It messes with the natural balance of not only your stomach, but other organs... including female parts.
I still to this day have an on-off problem with BV despite discontinuing the drug over a year ago. Probiotics (fem-dolphis and Kefir milk), folic acid and wearing cotton underwear help me, but I've never been 100% normal."
01/12/2012: Lady Garden from Manchester, Uk: "Hello ladies, I may have to take back a few of the things I said previously. I admit that I may have been wrong about one or two things but...
I think I've found a something which will keep BV at bay and is not too messy and not expensive and seems to do a very good job indeed and there's no douching involved!! It's called lactobacillus Sporogenes and it's a supplement which comes in tablet form. I have been using it as a vaginal supository and a suplement for several days (one week after my period when things usualy get bad) and there has been no odor whatsoever. You can get a particular 'daily' one from a particular supplement brand with the initials 'H. N. ' (google it). I have been using one a night vaginally and also taking one/two a day. However it feels like I could use the one vaginally less regularly and things would still be fine. I intend to try that out and experiment after I've continued with my current dose for 14 days straight. I've read about lots of studies in which BV was cured after using two of these particular types of supplement two (morning and night) a day vaginally for 14 days. The tablets disolve completely with minimal sticky leakage. If you put one in at night it's completely dissolved/absorbed by the morning.
Even if it's necessary to use these tablets for the rest of my life at least I know I don't ever have to deal with the awful symptoms of this horrible condition.
Lactobacillus Sporogenes is a particularly hardy probiotic which, unlike many, can survive harsh stomach acid and colonise in the colon. I truly believe that probiotics are the things we need to focus on if we intend to conquer this problem and stop it from consuming our lives. More studies need to be done in this area as all the ones so far have shown very positive and promising results.
I really hope this helps others the way it seems to have helped me."
11/21/2011: Iris from Atlanta, Ga: "FEM DOPHILUS!!! Thank you Amy from Deltona, FL and this wonderful website!!! I have suffered for years with BV and have tried all the antibiotics given to me by my doctor only to have it return a few months later or right after sex. I stumbled on this website and tried most of the remedies. The peroxide worked on the symptoms but did not get rid of the problem and I was tired of douching all the time because I know it can't be healthy. Then I read a post from Amy from Deltona about Fem Dophilus. PLEASE TRY IT!! IT REALLY WORKS AND IS SIMPLE TO USE! I had sex (my main trigger for an outbreak). That same day I started taking 1 pill a day by mouth then 3 days later my period started (another trigger). So I took one in the morning and one at night before bed during my period. When I finished my period I did douche with peroxide one time just for a cleanse and continued to take 2 by mouth for the first 3 days after my period then cut down to 1 a day. I'm pleased to announce that it's been 2 weeks and NO SIGNS of the BV!!! Not everything works for everybody but this worked for me and may work for you. No mess no fuss and you can find it at whole foods or any health food store. I hope this helps and if it does please spread the good news and help another sufferer find happiness again!! Good luck and I hope you all find what works for you!!!"
11/20/2011: Th from Atlanta, Ga: "I've read that you can insert these pills vaginally. I was diagnosed about a month ago and after the anti-biotic didnt work I started researching. I inserted the pills but they didnt dissolve, so they didnt work. Anybody know how you're supposed to insert them? I opened the pills and added water and used it as a douche. Not quite sure if that was effective, but I just wanted to get something in my body quickly. I was taking like 6-8 pills a day!! I think the pills were 5 billion. I think my symptoms went away and have recently come back. My insurance has not kicked in at my new job and can't afford to spend another $120 to go back to the doctor. Any suggestions on how to use the pills vaginally? I just think they'll work quicker than orally."Replies
12/19/2011: Cybergal from Miami, Florida replies: "Buy Empty Gelatin Capsules - Size O -- Open probiotic capsules and put powder of two? three? in gelatin capsule -- which WILL disolve in Vagina --
(probiotic capsules are sharp when broken)
I inserted a Boric Acid capsule (which I made myself, -- cheap - buy boric acid powder) Every Night for 20 years to cut back yeast infections."
[YEA] 01/25/2011: Cc from Boston, Ma: "I want to thank this forum. After 7 years of embarrassing suffering from bv I tried the acidophilus remedy and it worked! :)I tried two different brands. The 1 St one ( 2 bil) didn't work but then I tried another brand DDS Probiotics from whole foods store and after 3 weeks it was gone. I take 2 per moring and 2 per night."
[YEA] 10/16/2009: This Worked For Me from Washington, Dc: "I suffered from Vulvodynia, BV and Yeast infections for about 4 or 5 years. Flagyl/Metrogel/Metronidazole to treat the BV would subsequently kill the good bacteria in the vagina (and intestines) and cause yeast infections. Then the antifungals for the yeast infections would further irritate the mucus membranes. This vicious cycle, along with diet, brought about the vulvodynia. Here's what worked for me:
1) For the BV --- I was given two weeks of flagyl. I told myself that that would be the last time I'd use flagyl. During and after that treatment I went to wholefoods and bought probiotics with atleast one billion live and active cultures per serving. I used ___ and ___ everyday (___ is often used for those with chronic yeast infections like HIV patients. Very powerful. After two weeks it was clear. It's been about 4 years and I have not had BV or a yeast infection since then. PROBIOTICS ARE AN ABSOLUTE MUST FOR A HEALTHY VAGINA AND INTESTINES.THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT. CONSUMER REPORTS HAS A LIST OF REPUTABLE PROBIOTICS BECAUSE MANY ARE GIMMICKS OR INFEFFECTIVE.
2) For the Yeast--- I eliminated cheese, yeast, breads, cured meats and did a a mostly pescatarian diet, seafood with fruits and veggies, brown rice. I also cut out alcohol for at least a month. I have not had a yeast infection in 3 or 4years. Now I pretty much eat what I want, but I am mindful. Moderation is key.
As for HPV --- the jury is still out. I had a pap in June 07 and June 08 and both times I tested positive for HPV (hpv sensitive test) but my paps have been normal. My next pap and hpv test is next week. For the past year I've taken 800 to 1200 milligrams of folic acid everyday, a prenatal, vitamin A (spinach, mixed leafy greens, carrot juice). I'm anxious to see if it has helped. I will report back regarding the hpv. As for the bv and yeast --- it hasn't returned in 4 years:-) Probitics that include reuteri, acidophilus, bifodus etc are key."
02/25/2010: Mary from Bakersfield, Ca. replies: "I am so glad that you have found your cure. I wanted to know what probiotics you used. But I don't know if this site will let you name names. If you can please let me know. Thanks"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 09/18/2009: Lori from Yuba City, Ca: "Bacterial Vaginosis: I have been visiting this site for a few months now, and I'm relieved to see that I'm not alone! I'm hoping to answer some questions as to how much acidophilus to take ,how it's taken, etc. In MY experience, I like to take 1 acidophilus every day, as many CFU's as you can get. Mine has 35 billion and 14 different strains of bacteria and it seems to be enough IF it's taken regularly. Some ladies have asked why BV comes back if they skip 2-3 days in a row, and I personally think it's because your bacterial balance is always changing-from having sex, what you're eating, douching (which is bad, no matter what). So I think you need to maintain the balance every day. I'm more than willing to take a few extra pills a day if it means not getting BV! Why not?! As far as inserting the acidophilus directly into the vaj, I take one capsule and cut it open and mix the powder with alittle KY jelly, put it in an applicator that's used for inserting yeast infection meds, and insert it that way. It's tedious, but it absolutely works! I've thought about just inserting the whole capsule inside, but I'm not convinced that it will dissolve in there! Does anyone have input on that-any tips? Sometimes it only took one dose, sometimes it took a few capsules more. I also take about 800mcg of folic acid every day too, just for added benefits. So I hope this info helps others,and thank you to all who have posted their experiences for me to learn from!"Replies
[YEA] 09/23/2010: Stuck On Acupuncture from Ft Lauderdale, Fl replies: "The use of probiotics being places directly in the vagina is very effective. I insert it like I would an o.b. and almost experienced fast relief. I also take probiotics orally. As to how often I should use them directly I am curious. I have suffered from UTI for several years and the antibiotics have destroyed my system. I also find comfort in wiping with tea tree oil on cotton. I hope to get rid of this problem forever. One thing that has helped is acupuncture! I get fast relief and a better understanding of how my infection all began. I recommend acupuncture to anyone before or while on antibiotics. It's very effective!"
[WORKED TEMPORARILY] 09/10/2009: Lady Macbeth from Toronto, On, Canada: "Hi all,
So I haven't been diagnosed with BV, but have been to 3 doctors in the 6 months that I've been having problems. The problem began with a thin, milky, profuse discharge for the first month and a bad smell that never got overwhelming, but was always present. All 3 BV tests I had came back negative, but I'm certain that's what I've got since I've ruled out all other problems (got STI tests done at the same time and am in a monogamous relationship with my partner).
So the smell has ebbed and flowed. The discharge went away after the first month. I've been taking" _____ Multi-Probiotic", which was the most complete probiotic I could find. The smell goes away when I take this capsule consistently, but if I miss a day or two, the smell is right back, like it never went away.
I'm confused about this boric acid vs apple cider vinegar debate. As I understand, vaginas are naturally on the acidic side of the pH scale. A fluctuation in vaginal pH usually means things are getting alkaline, and that's what's causing problems. So why douche with boric acid and make things even more alkaline? I thought that sperm was sometimes problematic for vaginas because it's alkaline and vaginas are acidic? (I don't sleep with men, so I don't know about that personally.) I don't understand how boric acid can help, but all of these doctors are prescribing it to the people in this forum! I also don't want to start messing around with drinking vinegar because I've had candida problems as well as acid reflux in the past and vinegar/acidic foods don't do well in my body.
Does anyone have any good, scientific links to supply more information on either boric acid or ACV beyond just "it worked for me"? I'd like to know WHY it's supposed to work.
Also, folic acid. Why is it supposed to work? Beyond just the supposition that it's a "woman's vitamin" because it's a (very good) prenatal supplement for neural tube defects in fetuses. Please be careful about taking too much folic acid- I've seen some posters here detailing the amounts of folic acid they are taking- and it's a lot! Too much folic acid can mask symptoms of other B vitamin problems so be careful.
So. Other than my questions, I can say that I:
- Eat an extremely healthy diet, rich in leafy greens, colourful veggies, whole grains, very little dairy, no processed foods whatsoever, and no meat, other than fish maybe once every two months.
- I don't smoke, though I drink socially
- I take a multivitamin and a B 100 complex daily, as well a very strong probiotic, and a bowl of natural, organic yoghurt with breakfast (the B complex and multi are more than enough too cover my folic acid levels and I remain skeptical that folic acid does work until someone tells me why! :)
- I don't eat sugar, and have switched my caffeine source down from coffee, to black tea, to green tea. I've been drinking green tea now for a while, with no honey or sugar in it.
- I'm in a monogamous relationship with a person who I trust. And we're not even having regular sex due to this problem, so it's not getting re-aggravated by sexual activity.
- I use unscented bath products, don't overwash (once daily with natural, unscented soap), never use scented menstrual products (organic cotton tampons are all I use).
I'm living like a bloody saint! But the second I miss a dose of the probiotics, the stank is back!! If the probiotics work while I'm taking them, why don't they change the problem permanently? Is it only masking the problem? Is the problem wreaking havoc under that mask?
So why should I do the boric acid or the apple cider vinegar? If you've taken them, where did you get the directions/information to do so? I'm not sticking boric acid up my cooter without hard evidence that I'm not going to burn a hole into bowel-ville by doing so.
Likewise, the ACV. Drinking vinegar is not good for my body (candida) either.
The probiotics work, but only while I'm taking them! What to do people! What to do!
Good luck to you all!"
09/10/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "I've only had BV once, but I tried the "acidify the vagina" route on the supposition that it was simply a matter of too-alkaline condition, but to no availe. My case of BV didn't go away until I killed the the bacteria (whatever kind they were) with colloidal silver douches.
That said, is it possible that your diet is too alkaline, or too alkalizing? You seem to eat mostly veggies with very few protein sources of any kind. This is just a hunch, but maybe you need to put some meat and eggs and raw dairy back into your diet, just as an experiment to see what happens. Maybe you are one of the few people who need more acid-forming foods in their diet to get back into balance instead of the other way around.
I agree with you though that sticking boric acid up your "cooter" (that is going to be my newest favorite word for awhile) is very extreme. Have you tried putting pro-biotics "up there" instead of just taking them by mouth? When I get a yeast infection, which is rare for me, I shoot some active-culture yogurt up there with a turkey baster. In other words, maybe some probiotics right at the source of infection would help."
09/11/2009: Anne from New York, New York replies: "I just saw a post on here where someone stated to "acidify" the vagina to get rid of BV. NO NO NO! Ladies you want to have a balanced diet ofcourse, but you want a diet higher in ALKALINE forming foods -NOT- foods that are high in acid. You want to eat more green veggies and less sugars/dairy products. Lemon water is a good drink, as lemons are high alkaline-forming, etc. After years of doctors visits, numerous medications and tons of research I have completely stopped having BV. What got rid of this condition for me was eating foods higher in alkaline but the main thing is 800 Folic Acid daily along with the B-series Vitamins. Just try it ;)"
09/11/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "That was me, and you completely mis-read and misunderstood my post. BV causes, or can be caused by, an alkaline condition in the vagina. When I had BV was trying to re-establish the correct vaginal pH so that the correct vaginal flora could re-establish itself and crowd out the pathogenic bacteria, so that I wouldn't have to resort to stronger measures. When that didn't work, I used colloidal silver douches to kill the pathogenic bacteria and then repopulated myself with lactobacilli by douching with yogurt.
The person I had replied to mentioned in her post that she eats mainly veggies, with very little protein from any source. That leads me to wonder if her diet isn't TOO ALKALINE for health, and that her unbalanced diet is showing itself in a too alkaline vagina, which is causing an overgrowth of pathogenic bacteria (some of which are always present in the vagina). Health is a balance of alkaline and acid, and too alkaline isn't any healthier than too acid. Any condition that causes the vagina to become too alkaline can result in a candida (yeast) infection and/or a BV infection (sometimes both are present together). She also said that when she takes probiotics faithfully, the problem is not manifest, but that as soon as she stops for even two days, the smell, etc returns. This also leads me to wonder if the problem isn't a too alkaline diet. Probiotics acidify the vagina, which leads to the growth of a proper vaginal flora of lactobacilli. My reasoning is that perhaps if she added acid foods (mainly protein) to her diet, her vagina would become acid again like it is supposed to be. She has nothing to lose by trying what I suggest, and much to gain if I am correct. It could be that I am entirely wrong, but sometimes the answer to a problem is counter-intuitive."
09/12/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "So, where in the world did you get the idea that semen is "highly acidic"??? And what makes you believe that all the acid foods are bad foods??? I agree that all "bad" foods are acidifying, but it does not follow that all acidifying foods are bad! Are organic, free-range eggs bad? Is organic, grass-feed meat bad? Is wild-caught salmon bad? And who recommended that she eat a "high-acid" diet??? Certainly not me!! I said that it might benefit her to add SOME protein (acid) foods to her diet, NOT that she start consuming a "high-acid" diet!! So, I do not know where you got the idea that semen is "highly acid", but you are 100 percent wrong, and display a serious misunderstanding of human physiology to boot. If semen irritates the vaginal canal, it does so because it is alkaline, NOT...I repeat...NOT because it is "highly acid"."
09/12/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "p.s. In other words, her diet is ALREADY HIGHLY ALKALINE...PERHAPS TOO MUCH SO, which might be causing her vagina to be alkaline, resulting in an overgrowth of pathogenic bacteria, some of which are always present in the vagina, but over-grow and cause a problem when the vagina becomes alkaline. If you had read her post carefully, you would have seen that she describes a diet that is already highly alkaline. If she tries to make her diet even more alkaline than it already is, it just might make things worse, not better."
09/12/2009: Anne from New York, New York replies: "Kathy, I didn't want you to take offense to my post. The woman with the highly alkaline body could have something entirely different. Yes I agree with you that too much of anything is NOT good. However, I didn't want other female readers to think that they needed more acid in the body/vagina when it is quite opposite of what they need. Just for an example, sperm is highly acidic and can irritate things down there. I have read many studies and all I am simply saying is that most woman with BV do not want to be on a high acid diet. Most foods high in acid are the "bad foods" which are not good for BV. A good, balanced diet is best in my opinion. Everything in moderation! However, I personally believe that lowering the acid in your body will help with this condition, at least it has for me. Like I said, overall I feel my body was lacking Folic Acid (the birth control pill can deplete FA from your diet). Since I started taking the Folic Acid/Vitamin B series every day at the same time I have not had BV."
09/12/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "It is your misunderstanding of the science involved that bothers me. In point of fact, normal semen is alkaline, NOT acidic, with a pH of between 7.2 and 8.0, while a normal vagina is acidic, NOT alkaline, with a pH of between 3.8 and 4.5. These facts are available by typing "seminal ph" and "vaginal ph" into a search engine."
[YEA] 11/04/2009: Kitty from Fremont, Ca replies: "LADIES PROBIOTICS WORKS!!! MAKE SURE ITS THE KIND THAT HAS TO BE REFRIGERATED. i HAVENT HAD A YEAST OR BV FOR 6 MONTHS AND I used to get either or every month before or after my mentrual cycle!
No more stress and sleepless nights over vaginal issues!"
06/27/2009: RCL from Avon Lake, Ohio: "The use of probiotcs for various ailments is not a "one size fits all" deal. The lactobacillus strains that help with gastrointestinal problems are not the same ones that help with vaginal problems such as bacterial vaginosis (BV). Several published studies have shown that 2 specific strains of lactobacillus are effective in treating BV: Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1 and Lactobacillus reuteri RC-14. Cut and paste the above phrase into a search engine and you will find several articles, and summaries of published studies from reliable, unbiased sources. There is also a product available (that I cannot mention) that contains these 2 specific strains of lactobacillus. I have recommended this remedey to several women that I know, who have had wonderful results."