01/14/2011: Datl from Atlanta, Ga replies: "C from NY... Please seek professional medical advice because the peroxide/water solution should not cause the type of pain you described. You could have a serious vaginal infection so taking your relatives antibiotics probably wasnt a good idea either.

My experience with the peroxide solution was great! I used 1 cup of peroxide and 1 cup of purified water 3 days ago and am back to normal. I really do think that some men have bacteria on their genitals that can cause a woman to have BV. I was married for 10 years and never had this problem or any other (i. E. Yeast infections, abnormal discharge, etc). I'm now single and met a man who I thought I was in a monogamous relationship with a year ago and ended up with 3 back to back yeast infections, and as of two months ago, a bad bout with BV. I had BV once in my life 15 years ago and I thought it was because my boyfriend at the time was uncircumcised. But ladies now that I'm pushing 40 and it has happened again, I'm starting to believe that all penises are not created equal OR clean. When you clear up your BV with the peroxide, use a condom with your man, even if it's your husband to see if he is the cause of the problem. I would even recommend cleaning your mate with peroxide as a preventive measure if you must have unprotected sex. Just a thought..."

01/29/2011: Pahlee from Phila, Pa. replies: "In reply to Dat from Atlanta, how often do you use the 1 cup of h202 and the 1 cup of h20 to combat the bv"

04/07/2011: Stressed from Tampa, Fl replies: "i suffered from BV off and on for years. I was with one man. Then we broke up and for 6 months I was fine. We got back together, had sex once and within a week I had BV again. From then on it was either a condom or the pull out method. And everything was fine. On those rare occasions when he didn't pull out. Within a few days the BV was back. My Dr.just kept giving me different medicine over the years. When I asked him years ago if my man was the problem I was told no. But even my Dr. was surprised when I told him that I figured out what was causing my troubles."

05/26/2011: Darcella from Cleveland, Ohio, Usa replies: "I am over 40 and have suffered from BV for many, many years. I originally tried my gynecologist because I felt he would know best. I was written prescriptions for flagyl and several gels. Needless to say the smell continued to come back, as well as, being plagued with recurrent yeast infections, which I might add I should own stock in diflucan.

I keep reading that women are trying peroxide douches, well here is a warning - been there done that - made every effort to follow instructions to the 'T'. Yeah, in the beginning the smell went away and then two days later, bam! in addition, I started having an alergic reaction on my face and neck from using the perioxide. At first I did not recognize it but when I became dependent upon using it to solve my problem temporarily, there was the reaction. Needless to say I don't deal with peroxide anymore.

I have tried yogurt, pure yogurt inserted in the vagina, garlic all of those things and nothing has helped for more than about 3 to 4 days tops.

I went to the whole food store to try probiotics, acidolphilus, etc. no long term results

I have tried Candigone for the yeast, enzymes, oil of oregano - I took myself off of all yeast, sugar of any form and even fruits that breakdown as sugar and dairy. I spent quite a pretty penny trying to buy the right things to eat. l only ended up with my blood pressure after three days of this method was so elevated, I thought I wasn't going to make it. Unfortunately, as soon as I stopped the method all symptoms - yeast and BV came right back!!!

More recently, I began buying the Homeopathic BV Treatment, which is a vaginal insert - it works for as long as you use it and then at least a week later - back to the same ole' thing.

I have been diagnosed with BV. Trich. Has been ruled out. I have one sex partner and it does come back with unprotected sex rather quickly.

My relationship is fine with my partner, but now where I used to be eager to have sex, I cringe each time it is suggested because I never know how bad the smell will be this time. He's okay and understands and supports all the things I have tried, but I'm just at the end of my rope here.

I went to the drug store and bought Hibilclens, I read to try a 1:20 ratio (with warm water). However, when I asked the pharmacist about douching with it she looked at me like I was an alien and told me only a precription cures BV - I had to laugh because this is where it all begun and no prescription has been effective in term on duration. But she actually scared me to say "absolutely not" it clearly states EXTERNAL USE ONLY.

What are the possible effects of using Hibiclens in the vagina? Any long term problems of taking something internally (although vaginally)?

I think I am suffering emotionally now because I am just tired of the battle. With all the medical cures out there, it baffles me that no one seems to have the cure to BV.

Just as all you are searching, I am as well and I have a fear that I will really damage myself internally if I keep playing craps with this condition. Help!!!"

[YEA]  10/06/2011: Whiteswan from Palmerston North, Manawatu, New Zealand replies: "Folic Acid, H2O2, Castor Oil, Pro Biotics:

Hi Ladies,

Thanks for contributing to this thread. It's been of great help to me of late. I'm a 48 yo living in New Zealand. Since my last caesarean section ten years ago I've had constant UTI, Candida & and BV problems. Sometimes I don't think I realised that I had BV as there was no itching or burning as such, and it would only become apparent after beig treated for UTI, then getting anti fingal creams as I was left still with a vaginal itch. On top of this I feel I have systemic candida due to all the antibiotics for UTI's as I get repeated thrush after those, and my GP tried Diflucan one tabs but I think Candida became resistant due to them. It doesn't matter how clean I am, I still get UTI's and I was recently referred for a cystoscopy after seeing a urologist so that is coming up for me in a few weeks time.

I have had these problems since my last caesarean and it was pointed out to me that I had bad adhesions between the uterus and the bladder that had formed after the first caesarean (I've had two). Over the past 2-3 years due to constant use of antibiotics, this has took a toll of my gut, wiping out all the good bacteria, and no matter how I eat I suffer from abdominal distension and blaoting within minutes of eating a meal. I decided to tackle the problem that started all this of late, namely the frequent vaginal infections, and the UTI's. I was referred for a hysteroscopy and laparoscopy at the beginning of the year. The surgeon gave me a light scrape on the inside and then cleaned up the adhesions between bladder and uterus successfully. Post op the gynea said that my lower adominal organs were in good condition for my age and that there was no endometriosis or anything untoward other than those two things that he could rectify. I did have some alleviation of endometrial symptoms that I had had when he did that but still had the recurrent infections.

Recently I had to see my GP for BV as the symptoms were chronic itching on top of discharge, and this followed on from a really bad bladder infection where both legs became full of water retention. I suffered a few injuries in the muscles and tendons just walking around because my legs were so full of water. I started to take D Mannose for this which helped and I was able to stop taking Trimethoprim by taking D Mannose daily - it helped me to avoid infections of the UTI tract. (1 tsp per day of D Mannose powder in 8 oz of water - waited 30 minutes and then drink a larger glass of water to flush out bacteria). Initially I had to do that dose every two hours until I got on top of what was a bad bladder infection and then dropped to 1 TSP per day maintenance which has stopped me from gettinf further UTI's.

However, the most remarkable improvement for me as come in the past two weeks by doing the following:

50|50 of spring water (non chlorinated) with H2O2 - douches using a 10Ml syringe. The syringe is just large enough when fully inserted to fill the vagina. I then empty the contents slowly over a 30 minute period and let it flood up around the sides of the syringe. I then I lay there for 5 minutes with the solution inside and drain out after 5 minutes. (It helps to lie with youre hips on a pillow elevated above you're head and a sheet of plastic covered by a towel on you're bed or something). After draining I then repeat this process again. Then drain and then insert castor oil internally. In the evenings before bed I apply a castor oil pack over my bladder area and apply heat. I leave this on and sleep overnight with the pack on.

ORALLY:

I do not insert pro biotic internally as I had a reaction to this and the solution burned me the first time I used that so I am taking x2 capsules of 40 billion pro biotics with acidophilus at every meal (thats 80 billion per meal and three meals per day making sure that I take it in the AM and PM) and I'm also taking:

800 mcg of folic acid twice daily
My multi Vitamin x2 daily
Vitamin E - 200 iu's twice daily
Vitamin C 1 gram twice daily
Magnesium 500 mg once daily (at bedtime)

I made sure that there was iodine, selenium, b6, b12, in my multi vitamin which I have doubled up on - all of the above has been done to boost my immune system and get on top
of the infections. I will probably drop my Vit E dose just prior to surgery and take it up once again a few days after that. Because I have been anemic for some time I take an iron tablet (scripted) along with one of my folic acid and vit c doses in the day.

ADDITIONAL:

I have also in recent days been squirting the H2O2 solution directly into my urethra and this has been giving me more results in terms of discomfort in THAT AREA. I'm currently waiting for a cystocopy at the end of October as I recently went for a urine flow test and the urologosgist said that my bladder is not emptying fast enough and approx 70 ML's is being left inside the bladder at the end of voiding. I went for pre op checks three days ago and the Doctor did a palp of my abs. She then did a slight thump over my bladder and it felt very tender, and this is where I started to do the packs, because for more or less a day after her doing this I felt very sore, and she had not particularly applied that much pressure. On the second night of doing castor oil packs on top of all the above and squirting H2o2 into my urethra as well as the douches (using the tip of the 10ml syringe to just ease into the urethra), I was lay in bed and felt a slight pop inside my abdomen somewhere deep inside. Almost like a cyst busting. Following this I have had a darkish brown and green discharge (like snot) - sorry for the description but I'm now kind of wondering if I did have a cyst in the urethra or somewhere in and around that area affectting my flow? The discharge was not you're typical BV discharge.

All I can say is:

Instant relief as soon as I inserted the first douche with H2O2!!! You should not be afraid to place this stuff in your vagina. It does NOT sting as I thought it would. The metrodinazol that the Doctor scripted when I went two weeks ago did not work and still left me with a chronic itch deep inside and when I used the douche - symptoms of itching subsided almost immediately! I thought to use castor oil to draw infection from deep in vaginal tissues. It seems ok internally and I had no problem. The only concern had was that it is regular pharmacy Castor Oil and not hexane free so I'm currently trying to track down a supply of hexane free Castor Oil and H2O2 here in NZ. Others may not need to do the castor oil - I only tried this because I knew I had a thickening of the urethra which could be felt inside my vagina by both the urologist and myself on self examination. I did think cyst and knew that Castor Oil had a drawing effect, so used that instictively and I think it has helped. Well I hope so!

I will still be going through with my cystocopy to check for interstitial cystitis, stones and other anomolies to rule that all out (or in as the case may be) and because I've suffered with UTI's all my life. One of my sisters has also had recurrent UTI's and had a urethral stretch two years ago and it cured her completely. So I'm about to have that done if my urethra is found to be narrow. Having had five children, (three by vaginal delivery) the urologist also said there could be a thickening in the urethra due to this and the only way to cure that is the stretch. But other than that I finally feel as if I am getting somewhere. I have also been taking detox baths with H2O2, Epsom Salts and pure Sea Salt over the past two days and I'm feeling heaps better in myself!

I usually get a dose of the runs shortly after taking these baths so I can tell they are working detox wise. LOL. I am so pleased that I have finally found some simple cures that I can use in the future when I have any problems. I was getting so tired of paying to see my GP and being given pharmaceutical drugs that don't work half the time or if they do leave you with yet another symptom.

All I can say is, if you have not tried this method because you were cringing at the thought of using hydrogen peroxide in your tender bits, make the solution up and then dab a little on your tongue and wait a few minutes... You will see that it does NOT burn. Even dab a little on the exterior or you're vagina and leave for a few minutes. You will then feel very confident in inserting a whole 10 ML's of that stuff into you're vaginal. Make sure you use exactly the same mix above (50|50 3% H2O2 and distilled of spring water - no chloride).

Brilliant stuff! My only other comment is you really need to be taking you're pro biotics internally in ALL cases (even if you decided to insert some vaginally) as you NEED to replace the friendly bacteria in you're gut as you will just re infect yourself with bad bacteria from the gut. I have been treating myself for two weeks in the above way and will be continuing this right up to my op and for two weeks following my op. I am doing this douche TWICE a day and no ill effects whatsoever. I continued to do this because of my other problems. I felt that the solution would penetrate vaginal tissues and reach the urethra that way also and other surrounding tissues because the vagina is very absorbent and women can supplement with estrogen this way transdermally. In the last day or so the tenderness over my bladder has subsided.

If you still need convincing that this stuff is better than antibiotics and pharmaceutical creams, then know that the bacteria in your vagina (lactobacillus and acidophilus) make hydrogen peroxide and squirt it on the bad bacteria to keep them from getting out of control. Your white blood cells also secrete this stuff to kill rogue blood cells. So this is a good all rounder if you have been on frequent courses of anti biotics and they have wiped all the good bacteria out of those places. It is a natural push.... The H2O2 will not kill good bacteria at the correct dilution. This is why this treatment works. I did a LOT of research before I put this stuff anywhere near myself and I can say with confidence that if you are persistent with this application twice per day as well as looking after yourself nutritionally and taking very high doses of pro biotics you will be a lot healthier. Even if you're BV comes back the following month, it is nothing to repeat the process for longer. We ALL need folic acid day in and day out... A lot of you are asking "How long do I need to do this for or take folic acid for?" Folic acid is needed indefinately if you have become deficient in such and are not eating the right foods to get enough in you're daily diet. You need this to keep homocysteine levels down and inflammation and to look after you're arteries and you're health anyway. Vitamin E and C along with Selenium will build you're immune system also to prevent future infections from coming back. Make sure that you take the natural vitamins not the synthetic versions. Once you are on top of you're BV then buy a good natural multi vitamin and ensure that it as at least 400 mcg of Folic Acid in to be taken daily.

I learned that the reason we keep getting so many infections back is most definitely because of the diet and vitamin deficiency. Your immune system is not working at its best. Cutting sugar will also help. Also I would like to advise that women look at the research being done into Xylitol (sugar replacement) and building immunity, killing rogue bacteria in the gut and healing tissue lining in the gut. I have done this due to gut disbiosis and feel far better. I'm using Xylitol daily in my drinks instead of sugar and that coupled with the D Mannose is keeping UTI's from even starting in the first place.

Thanks for all you're tips... I'm loving Earth Clinic right now and so happy that I found this place - it isn't all vodoo after all. Lol. I was pretty much able to figure out my own personal routine from your posts and would like to thank you all for that. I also hope that my post will help to give some women the courage to try the H2O2! White Swan"

10/06/2011: Whiteswan from Palmerston North, Manawatu, New Zealand replies: "Some ladies are mentioning a reaction (e.g. rash) from the H2O2. This is herxheimer reaction to the bugs being killed only. That is why hydrogen peroxide works. It kills the bad bugs, and protects the good guys. It balances vaginal flora in favour of the good guys.. Also just putting this in you're vagina for 2-3 sessions is just not enough. Some of you are prepared to take metrodinazol twice per day and put this in you're body and suffer all the die off symptoms of good and bad bacteria being killed, but have no time to treat yourselves holistically with something that you're own good bacteria make anyway (h2o2). Do your research... H2o2 is secreted by the white blood cells and good bacteria in your body and it is therefore part of the immune response. When neutrophills squirt h2o2 around bad bacteria, this is picked up and white blood cells in the body detect they are needed and head to the site on infection. They then start to fire off more h2o2 in response. So inserting a h2o2 douche actually assists you're body to get well faster from an infection. You NEED to do this douche TWICE per day for 5-7 days to see good results. Don't get slack on this. You need to persistently kill off the bad bacteria. If you're still getting discharge, this is why. Use a 10ML syringe and insert into the vagina and push the liquid in at a rate of over 30 seconds. Then lie and wait 5 minutes, then drain out and REPEAT THIS PROCESS.

Secondly...you MUST take probiotics orally several times per day in the 40 and more billion count. Take them at every meal because you also have bad bacteria in the guts that makes it's way to you're vagina reinfecting you. You must address the bad bacteria in you're guts also - everyone who had had BV and taken anti biotics for it without doing a good round or course of pro biotics has this problem. Do this for at least a month and then eat low fat, low sugar yoghurt at least once a day to keep the bacteria in you're guts friendly.

Thirdly, folic acid is needed by all women at all ages- in times of infection you need larger doses. Take 800mcg twice per day. Also take 1gram Vitamin C and vitamin E along with Selenium and Zinc as well as the B vitamins to BOOST you're immunity and fight the infection. Then after a month of that protocol drop back to one a day multi. Take natural multi's not synthetic.

You may have symptoms of die off when you are using h2o2 vaginally as the vagina absorbs anything you put into it remember - this is why Gynecologist give women estrogen replacement to be inserted in their vagina. If you're really perceptive you will taste the h2o2 in you're mouth after insertion. This means it is circulating in you're body. It will do you no harm though as this is the stuff white blood cells use to kill bad cells in the body such as cancer cells. Expect to get a few rashes! Even the runs... but it will do you more good than antibiotics which kill EVERY type of bacteria in your gut and wreck you're immune system to boot.

It is a real pity that so many people are so dependent upon their GP's and impatient where it comes to natural remedies - they expect the natural remedies to work overnight. Yes... They may give you instant relief almost immediately, but remember that this bacteria (and possibly other bad bacterias) may be deep in the tissue of you're vagina and it takes time for this stuff to work at systemic level in those tissues.

A rash on your face is the least of your problems and is just toxins leaving you're body."

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