Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease Questions

Updated: 03/25/2008

CAN CONDITION BE REVERSED?

COQ10 DOSAGE?

MOTHER WITH COPD AND TB

WHERE DO I START?

CAN CONDITION BE REVERSED?

04/16/2007: Kim writes: "Hi Ted, I was reading your section on COPD cures. I was just wondering if you've heard back from any of the folks (for example the older woman who had COPD since 1989 and has been on oxygen 24/7) regarding their current condition since changing their regimen? Are they still practicing - has their condition continued to improve? My mother has sever COPD - she is on oxygen 24/7, however, is still very mobile. Though there is no cure- her outlook is amazing and she's willing to try anything. The doctor's say that it's an irreversible disease - just wondering if you feel a bit more optimistic or have actually dealt with folks who have had their lung capacity increase or condition reverse a bit? Thanks!"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Kim: The woman you mentioned, I received no feedback.

Most people do not provide me with feedback on the website, except from my own personal sources. I get more questions than feedback, quite often the ratio is about 100: 1 on question:feedback ratios. Even personal sources, where most people do improved, quite often won't tell me unless I contacted them directly. For some reason when they do get better, at least where I live, I get no feedback.

In those areas that do work, I found N Acetyl Cysteine 500 mg/day, colloidal silver, baking soda+apple cider vinegar, baking soda + lime (lemon), helped.

The dose for colloidal silver appears to be 1 tablespoon 3 - 4 times a day.

But COPD is really an umbrella term, where the cause is "unknown". The ones I encountered were caused by cigarettes smoking. Usually keeping the body alkaline enough does improve breathing, and the usual dose appears to be taken alternatively 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with apple cider vinegar twice a day in 1/2 glass of water, or 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with 8 teaspoon of lime juice in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day also. Vitamin A may be helpful in restoring some normal breathing pattern.

COPD cures can also be reduce by avoiding certain risk factors, such as cured meats, eating meats, overcooked foods, ready made foods, for example. In fact there is a study please see below.

Since nitrites is liked to this problem, I suspect the issue is peroxynitrites. While I do not have advanced equipment, I suspect peroxynitrites and nitrosamines are formed during cooking of cured meats at high temperatures. The body does produce sodium nitrite through the glial cells in the brain as a molecular messenger. Therefore reduce risk is possible with taking taking baking soda as the sodium nitrites don't degrade easily in alkaline blood environment to form nitric oxide or create peroxynitrites. Sodium nitrite are stable in alkaline and sodium ascorbate vitamin C will stabilize them also.

Therefore taking 500 mg of sodium ascorbate a day, baking soda 1/2 teaspoon twice a day, or the use of those with the apple cider and lime remedy is helpful too.

Sodium nitrite are somewhat synergistic also with another molecular messenger, trace hydrogen sulfide. Increase in hydrogen sulfide can easily be supplemented with taking soy milk, preferably unsugared. If it is sugared, often the concentration of sugar is about 10%, in which case it is necessary to drink at least 10 times (which reduces sugar to only 1%) more water to dilute the excess sugar so that it doesn't disturb the blood sugar. Ted"

American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine Vol 175. pp. 798-804, (2007) © 2007 American Thoracic Society doi: 10.1164/rccm.200607-969OC Original Article

Cured Meat Consumption, Lung Function, and Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease among United States Adults Rui Jiang1, David C. Paik2, John L. Hankinson3 and R. Graham Barr1,4

1 Division of General Medicine, Department of Medicine, and 2 Department of Ophthalmology, College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University, New York, New York; 3 Hankinson Consulting, Valdosta, Georgia; and 4 Department of Epidemiology, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, New York

Correspondence and requests for reprints should be addressed to R. Graham Barr, M.D., Dr.P.H., Columbia University Medical Center, 622 West 168th Street, PH 9 East-Room 105, New York, NY 10032. E-mail: rgb9@columbia.edu

Rationale: Cured meats are high in nitrites. Nitrites generate reactive nitrogen species that may cause nitrative and nitrosative damage to the lung resulting in emphysema.

Objective: To test the hypothesis that frequent consumption of cured meats is associated with lower lung function and increased odds of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

Methods: Cross-sectional study of 7,352 participants in the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 45 years of age or more, who had adequate measures of cured meat, fish, fruit, and vegetable intake, and spirometry.

Results: After adjustment for age, smoking, and multiple other potential confounders, frequency of cured meat consumption was inversely associated with FEV1 and FEV1/FVC but not FVC. The adjusted differences in FEV1 between individuals who did not consume cured meats and those who consumed cured meats 1 to 2, 3 to 4, 5 to 13, and 14 or more times per month were -37.6, -11.5, -42.0, and -110 ml, respectively (p for trend < 0.001). Corresponding differences for FEV1/FVC were -0.91, -0.54, -1.13, and -2.13% (p for trend = 0.001). These associations were not modified by smoking status. The multivariate odds ratio for COPD (FEV1/FVC 0.7 and FEV1 < 80% predicted) was 1.78 (95% confidence interval, 1.29-2.47) comparing the highest with the lowest category of cured meat consumption. The corresponding odds ratios for mild, moderate, and severe COPD were 1.11, 1.46, and 2.41, respectively.

Conclusions: Frequent cured meat consumption was associated independently with an obstructive pattern of lung function and increased odds of COPD. Additional studies are required to determine if cured meat consumption is a causal risk factor for COPD."

04/16/2007: Kim replies: "Thank you for your quick response.My mother's COPD is caused by smoking. At this point- she's looking to stop progression. As I mentioned, she is on oxygen, however, is still active enough to go out shopping and walk (slowly) on the treadmill.......she can do most things, just needs the oxygen support. Her goal is to reduce her time spent on oxygen - hopefully, these remedies will help with that. It's hard to decide what to try - there is just so much contradiction out there- one group says something works and the other says it doesn't.Please let me know if you have any other advice.Thanks."

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Kim: The remedies I posted, they usually helped. I don't see much contradiction since the information I get is from personal sources. Sometimes second hand information is conflicting because certain groups connected with industries, or competing alternative health (to support their own products) put out disinformation."

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COQ10 DOSAGE?

11/10/2006: Frank writes: "I haven't tried CO Q 10, pending feedback from you. Your comments mentioned a friend who cured about 90% of of his condition by taking the entire bottle of CO Q 10 over 2-3 days. What size bottle? What strength CO Q 10? It sure does sound interesting to me."

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Frank: My friend took initially one CoQ10 and noticed nothing. So he took more and it helped a little. Then he took even more and it helped more. So I do not know how many times in all, he finally came to a conclusion that if he took the entire bottle, it stopped his condition 90%. The bottle size I think it was about 100 capsules."

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MOTHER WITH COPD AND TB

03/25/2008: Shirley writes: "Hi Ted, I'm Shirley from the Philippines. Got across this site a month ago in one of the forums I frequently visit and since then It has become my habit to visit earth clinic to read all your inputs and suggestions to the betterment of my family's well being. I become a fan :)

Firstly, Im using ur ACV recipe and Im happy to note that it has helped me a lot with my acid reflux and sinus congestion. Also doing Oil Pulling. My lungs seemed to clear as well. Im also supplementing with NAC and Vit C to combat my usual bout with bronchitis and dry cough. Its hard to live in a place where there so much air pollution. Coupled with that weak lungs seems to run in the family

I'd like to ask about my mother who's 68 yrs old, she's got COPD and doctors said she's got to live with it (and it wont be that long) and nothing could cure it. She's coughing a lot of phlegm and' most of the time she cant sleep well at night bec of this. Sometimes she also cant eat well bec according to her the phlegm seemed to block the food she's taking. She's been on medication for a long time but now she's taking vitamins to strengthen her immune system and some pills for hypertension. I've read your inputs on COPD and would like to try these on her. I just have to convince her it will work and also im having a hard time looking for DMSO and Im afraid of the side effects of MSM. I would appreciate your inputs on these. Also will ur ACV remedy help her as well as oil pulling? I would also want to try the H202 on her but still looking where I could buy the food grade.

I'd also want to hear your input on my sister, she's been infected with TB and already on medication with the quad tab for a month. She's interested to try ur ACV remedy but quite worried it might interact with her quad tab medication? What do you think?

I'll be very happy to hear your suggestions. More power and GOD Bless YOU.

Your fan,"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "

Dear Shirley:

Most of the side effects is likely to come from the DMSO, not the MSM. The secret in the use without side effects is always the dilution. An example, is putting a teaspoon of salt in a swimming pool. You won't notice the salty taste, but it is so diluted, its not likely you will. The side effects can be lessened to any degree with the miracle of dilution. This is why apple cider vinegar and baking soda is always diluted in a glass of water or 1/2 glass of water, so it will be more compatible, and less differences with water, or less differences with the body's chemistry too.

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The side effects of MSM can be controlled to a point where it I won't notice it. The issue is to take some MSM, dissolve them in a glass of water, and mixed them in small amounts. I would try a small amounts first such as 250 mg of MSM dissolved in a glass of water, first once a day, then to three times a day, and finally mixed in a drinking water. MSM has less side effects than DMSO, but I used DMSO, because it is available here. The other reason is I found rather by accident that DMSO dissolved the black lung causing it, by accident until knowing it would cure it. However, I have not done any experiments with MSM whether it would dissolve it, but I am sure it will since chemical properties a somewhat similar.

 

Granulated lecithin is a fat emulsifier and can be mixed with almost any food since it is a food made from soy. While the effect is mild in dissolving black tar carbon deposits, I believe this will do it too. However, the dose requires much larger, as any food and I will take it one to two tablespoons three times a day preferably without meals so it would reach the blood stream and the lecithin will do its job, slowly in dissolving some black carbon deposits along the lung area. However I believe a 50/50 mixture of DMSO, OR MSM in a humidifier, or nebulizer does a more direct effect in dissolving the black lungs, but at the same time, plenty of lecithin is also taken along with some MSM.

 

To reduce phlegm, the only known remedy for me that does dissolve or liquefy the mucus is the N-Acetyl Cysteine. There's a catch on this supplements. Most N Acetyl Cysteine sold in Asia the added secretly aspartame, which destroys the nerves an make it sicker, by causing the body to be severely metabolic acidosis. And this can easily be proven with a pH meter an hour after taking any Coke Zero, Pepsi Max, Xylitol Gums (xylitol is ok, but they add the aspartame!), and others. The problem about aspartame is frequently it is added in many medications and supplements and they DON'T label it. Therefore, I will try to buy N Acetyl Cystiene in capsule form instead of those of effervescence form. The reason is the sweeteners they use in effervescent form is sometimes aspartame, and this includes some antacid also. There is a lot of Chinese herbal remedies that can also clear the lungs, although personally I have not tried them, but one popular one that my fellow earthclinic reader showed me was Lo-Han-Kua Infusion, which is actually rather mild one, which is a fruit, using Lohan Kua (frucus momordicae) to clear up the breathing which might help the phlegm also. But I do know that N Acetyl Cysteine is a powerful remedy in dissolving the phlegm. Phlegm forms because an irritation along the breathing passages exists which refuses to die off. Mine is in the upper throat area, and usually it can either be a bacteria or a virus, but likely to be a virus, because it seems to respond better with anti viral remedy such as peppermint oil. I do use the peppermint oil, if i have a problem 2-4 drops before sleep, but keep in the mouth, and another in the morning. The interesting part of the peppermint oil is that it seems to cause less swelling around the throat area, promoting breathing and reduces the problem of phlegm by reduction of irritation from the peppermint oil. As a clue, I found that peppermint oil also kills the virus reduces irritation, and hence, reduces the phlegm, and irritation of the throat, helping with my breathing.

 

ACV is generally a good nutrition but also a power detoxifier. But my own experiments were mostly with white distilled vinegar which has saved my dog on so many occasions against insecticidal (mostly pyrethrin and permethrin found in dog's shampoo, but also carbamate) poisoning and other unknown chemical toxins such as formaldehyde, methanol, from chemical thinners too. One easy way I found was that if a paint thinner got on my skin, such as a methanol, it causes very bad burning sensation, and I always apply vinegar to stop that and work  every time. Since the skin is the body's biggest organ, other organs inside the body gets inflammed and this is why vinegar or even apple cider vinegar works so well. However in the long run, an apple cider vinegar, or even the one's I used (white vinegar) is always mixed with baking soda, so that the body doesn't deplete its bicarbonates. A vinegar mixed with baking soda, will get sodium acetate, which is an equivalent of a dry vinegar or powder vinegar form, which is the chemically more correct one that's not often used.

 

A TB can be killed somewhat with ozone, so if I used ozone occasionally in my room, or using a 3% H2O2 as a nebulizer those can kill off the T.B., along with perhaps a 1/2 teaspoon of 3% H2O2 in a full glass of water every 2 or 3 hours, is a possibility. I do know MMS (usually 25% sodium chlorite) in this instance has works, which is more like 3 drops of MMS plus 18 drops 20% citric acid solution,in a glass of water for example. However, in the long run, most of the help comes in alkalizing such as 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water taken three times a day to alkalize sufficiently to prevent its spread first, before using H2O2 added in drinking water, such as 30 drops in 1 liter of water PLUS 1/4 teaspoon of REAL sea salt. Salt is a natural antibiotic, and if it is nebulized using a 5% saline solution or a humidifier, the salt can also kill the TB to some extent too, but I may add some H2O2 there also.

 

Apple cider vinegar is considered as food, if it is drank first, along with any food or meal, then a medication can be taken based  on whether it is taken before, during or after meals. The only draw back I see is the long term use of apple cider vinegar, which I think adding with baking soda in the long run works better."

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WHERE DO I START?

10/15/2006: Barbara writes: "I have not tried any remedies yet, where can I buy them I do not know what to buy. I was diagnosed in 1989 with COPD I Smoked many years and also is genetic my Dad died of it and congestive heart failure, I have 25 % lung capacity. I am on oxygen 24 daily updraft treatments every 3 hrs prednisone 15mgdaily plus 9 other pills a day. I have a low energy level if you can give me some info I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you Barbara"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Barbara: If you want some improvements, then clearing the lungs of mucus, lowering the inflammation, the killing of fungus/pathogen, and the dissolution of fats, increasing capillary and circulation and perhaps rebuilding of the lungs that are damaged would be the way to go.

Clearing of the mucus can be helped with taking about 500 mg. of N Acetyl Cysteine. This will loosen the mucus and caused it to be liquified, thus reducing the obstruction.

The killing of fungus/pathogen can be helped using vinegar inhalation through a humidifier. If it is too strong, you can dilute by 50%. I used myself to clear my breathing passage to stop cold flu from happening. Also vinegar is unique in dissolving fats, kill certain fungus and pathogens.

Increasing the capillary circulation or increasing oxygen to the body can easily be accomplished by taking one or either remedies, they are all o.k.

: 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda + 1/4 teaspoon citric acid + 1/2 glass of water.

or

One freshly squeezed lemon juice and add baking soda until the fizzing stops, then add water to 1/2 glass.

This is taken twice a day once before bedtime and once in the morning. However, it has become increasingly apparent, to take at 11.00 a.m. about 1 hour before lunch. Second formula using the lemon is better because of vitamin C, phosphate, and it causes the body ORP to be near optimal values.

Furthermore taking colloidal silver, or inhalation temporarily of course will also kill whatever bugs that are causing the inflammation of the lungs which will reduce such obstruction. For me, in the future, I believe that a small amount of zinc acetate less than 0.25% concentration used only briefly will kill many of the viral pathogens exists too and possibly limit certain fungus as well. Colloidal silver will also create a limited number of dedifferentiated cells, which basically is a stem cells, that will allow the cells in the body to rebuild the lungs.

Antioxidants reduce the amount of oxygen the body needs, such as 2000 - 4000 I.U. of vitamin E/day. While people who smoke in the past have high heavy metals, in particular strontium which can easily be removed to some extent with oil pulling, but I prefer to call it oil chelation since oil is well known for removing heavy metals in your body via, the refined use of sunflower oil as a mouthwash and not to swallow. Done several times a day at one tablespoon or two everytime and spit it out should remove the level of heavy metals since the mouth is the only organ that recirculates bodily fluids making it an ideal organ where we can use various elements such as oil, charcoal, bentonite, for example to remove toxins from the body that are usually of oil soluble compounds that the body have trouble getting rid of.

We could also use pure lecithin, taken internally, to allow fats to be soluble, also ridding the many heavy metals and oil soluble pathogens such as mycoplasma in the process.

It is difficult to cover every aspect toward the cure of COPD due to multiple cause, but most important in my opinion is the N Acetyl Cystiene, zinc acetate 50/mg per day, alkalizing using lemon and perhaps some inhalation using simple vinegar or eucalyptus oil should also help. Eucalyptus tends to breakdown into hydrogen peroxide, which of course will destroy whatever pathogens causing the inflammation of the lungs. However this tends to have a drying effect but does clear the breathing, so temporary use is acceptable, but not too much. Gingko supplements might help, but it seems I don't get much feedback for this but it is said to increase circulation.

A friend had a similar problems like you. He cured about 90% of his condition just by taking the entire bottle of COQ 10 over the course of only 2-3 days, as well as 250 mg. of N Acetyl Cysteine for a period of a month.

Once you are on the road to recovery, then the last step is to take 6-10 drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide food grade per glass of water to detox the remaining chemicals in your body. On the other hand, just try ozone therapy, by installing an air ozonizer for your room and breathe regularly. This will detox most of the last remaining toxins in your body. You need not do this often, just do as required, such as doing for only about a week alternatively until you get better.

These are just the bare basics to get your body upon recovery. There are more details then this, but getting even some improvements is one way to go."

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