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Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
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HYDROGEN PEROXIDE INHALATION METHOD
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07/16/2011: Virginia from Henderson, Nc: "how much of the 3% peroxide and water can I use in my nebulizer? I have copd"
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07/03/2011: George Murray from Porthmadog, Gwynedd: "I use 3% for cuts etc, I noticed that spraying onto the skin bleaches the skin white and lasts for about 1/2 an hour, does this happen if when you inhale 3% into your lungs? if you cannot provide the answer with all due respect can you point me to a person that can.
G.D.Murray"
11/03/2011: Karl from Digby, Canada replies: "Make sure all forms of H2O2 is properly diluted, the over the counter store bought also needs to be diluted to at least 1oz of H2O2 to every Quart of clean water, I prefer reverse osmosis water but distilled water works, certainly better than our tap water anyway. If you're getting white stains on your skin maybe your H2O2 isn't 3%, I have been using it for awhile and the only one that changed my skin color was the 35% H2O2, I personally use internally the 35% food grade H2O2 solution diluted down to a 3% solution then diluted again down to 1oz for every 1 quart of clean water. I found out today from a message on earth clinic that even tapwater can be somwhat cleaned with H2O2 at least to remove the chlorine and fluorine, which is what I do to take a bath in it. Not sure about the other toxins in most water supplies though."
03/01/2012: Sistertongue from Out There, Usa replies: "Do not EVER ingest or use in a nebulizer store bought 3% hydrogen peroxide. It is FULL of impurities. ONLY buy and use internally 35% FOOD GRADE h202. There are lots of websites where you can order it. It is EXTREMELY dangerous at 35% and can burn the skin (wash immediately with water and you will be fine). It is highly diluted in water to prevent burning of tissues, both internal and external."
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06/04/2011: Janetlee from Panama City, Fl, Usa: "I've had my mom who has COPD (I believe so b/c she has ALL the symptoms, but won't go to a doctor-several years ago she went to a general MD and was told she has bronchial asthma-she doesn't have attacks where she has to use an inhaler). Anyway, for the past week or so, I've had her using a nebulizer to do the H202 therapy. She was unable to tolerate the Bill Munro method. I have her mixture in the nebulizer at 1 part H202 to 3 parts water. She does the nebulizer about 4x a day and only does it for about a minute or two at a time. She says that she is willing to continue this treatment for a little while so as to give it a fair chance. Hower, she also says that it seems to make her chest feel heavy and thus she feels worse... She's not to a point where she can't go do things, but does get quite shortwinded and coughs up phlegm. She's also doing the Mucolyxir and himilayan salt inhalation which have definitely helped her. So I guess what I'm asking is does anyone have any feedback for me? I'd really appreciate it! Thanks!
janetlee"
Replies[YEA] 07/08/2011: Barbara from Leicester, United Kingdom replies: "Hi I have COPD and last year I took H2o2 orally you wouldnt believe the differance it made even after a week I couldnt go upstairs without having to sit and wait to get me breath back I would wake up in the morning not even moved out of bed and couldnt breathe I stopped taking it last november and im getting poorly again so I have just ordered myself some more I am going to start taking it again it really helps...."
07/15/2011: Janetlee from Panama City, Fl, Usa replies: "Thanks for your reply! May I ask how you personally took the H202 orally? How much? For how long? To what extent did it help you? I am asking so many questions because I have to be persuasive to my mom! Thanks so much!ps-you can email me if you like at shapeep @ maildot com
I hope you get that coded email okay! LOL!
janlee"
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05/20/2011: Janetlee from Panama City, Fl, Usa: "Could Ted or anyone else that has any experience with this help me out please! My mom has COPD and today I bought a quart of 35% Food Grade H202, distilled water, and a nebulizer. Now that I have all the things she needs to try the therapy, I am at a loss as to how to go about this! She'll think I'm an idiot! :( Maybe I am.... But I love her and am trying so hard to help her. I have her on 200 mg. Ubiquinol (a superior form of CoQ-10) daily and NAC and Himilayan Crystal salt Inhaler and Mucolyxir (NATURAL MICRODOSE DNA). All of this has helped her, but she still gets so shortwinded and wheezes a lot and coughs up phlegm. She won't go to a doctor no matter what! But she is willing to try some alternative therapies. Anyhow, could someone PLEASE A. S. A. P. Answer my question about the H202 inhalation therapy via a nebulizer?
How much H202 to how much water? How long should she use the nebulizer each time? How many times a day? How many days? ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! Please help us!
Thank you so very very much! janet"
Replies05/22/2011: Robert Henry from Ten Mile , Tn Usa replies: "HI U JANETLEE, , , , , , ,To get to 3% from 35%, you add 3 tablespoons of 35% hydrogen peroxide to 12 oz of distilled water.
The rest you are on you own and if someone tells you different then they are peeing on your leg. ======RH========"
05/23/2011: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "Hi Janetlee - To dilute 35% hydrogen peroxide down to 3%, add 1 ounce of 35% HP to 11 ounces of distilled water. That is the instruction on my bottle of 35% food-grade HP (Gold Top Super Oxygen). As for using it for COPD, sorry, I don't have any information but do an Internet search for Bill Munro's hydrogen peroxide inhalation method - that might point you in the right direction (he uses an atomizer to inhale instead of a nebulizer). Perhaps someone with actual experience with HP and COPD might be able to respond to you. Best of luck to you and your Mom."
05/25/2011: Janetlee from Panama City, Fl, Usa replies: "Thank you both. I do know how to make the 35% H202 into 3% H202. What I am puzzled about is how much of the 3% H202 to how much water before putting it in a nebulizer? On the Asthma thread here on Earth Clinic, one lady said she puts one part H202 to 2 parts water, then puts it in the nebulizer. I'm at a loss... I did talk to Mr. Munro and he really didn't know what to advise me in regards to a nebulizer. He does feel that regular 3% H202 like you buy at a drugstore is just fine and feels that the food grade kind is a waste of money. He's a very nice man! Anyway, the nasal mist pump bottle inhalation burns my mom's throat too bad, even after I diluted it more.PLEASE, if ANYBODY has COPD and has used a nebulizer to inhale H202, PLEASE tell me your mixture ratio! Thank you!"
05/26/2011: Alain from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada replies: "Answer to Janetlee from Panama City, Fl about using H2O2 with a nebulizer.
I think I recall Ted saying to use not stronger solution than 1% H2O2 solution for inhalation. I would therefore suggest using a solution of 1% or less and then increase occasionally to see if a higher concentration can be handled. Do not exceed 3%.
The same goes with the ordinary inhalation method. If 3% burns the throat than start with 1%.
Here are two interesting pages on using a nebulizer with H2O2.
http://www.racehorseherbal.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=125
http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html
Good Luck
Alain"
05/30/2011: Janetlee from Panama City, Fl, Usa replies: "Thank you. I decided to go very diluted and slowly add more to the water. I will try to keep posting as we go along!Thanks all! janet"
06/16/2011: Janetlee from Panama City, Fl, Usa replies: "I am sad to say that I went ahead and told mom to stop the H202 therapy. I could not see where she was benefiting. It may not be that the H202 is ineffective, it could be that mom was not doing it right. She is not able to do the direct spray into the mouth. The nebulizer method bothered her throat some, but this was even with me diluting the 3% H202 as one part H202 to 3 parts distilled water. Maybe it's too weak. Maybe she didn't do it often enough or long enough each time. Mom does what Mom wants! She may try it again eventually, I don't know. But I am very disappointed, as I had high hopes.janetlee"
11/25/2011: Samdi233 from Brantford, Ontario/ Canada replies: "Hi janetleeFor good resolute dilute 5 h2o2 to %3 pore 2 oz or lass in small jar and let your mom inhale the h2o2 from a jar 3x deep breaths 4x a day, read those
http://www.medical-library.net/hydrogen_peroxide_therapy.html
http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-You-Should-Inhale-Hydrogen-Peroxide&id=3386535"
12/15/2011: Cindy from Fayetteville, N.c. - Usa replies: "There is a product that can be bought at Health Food Stores that is already mixed food grade hydrogen peroxide. It is called Oxy-gen Liquid Antioxidant with CoA10 and B12. It can also be ordered, which is cheaper. It tastes good, too. Follow the directions.To Improved Health --- : )"
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[YEA] 12/28/2010: Maggie from North Attleborough, Massachusetts: "Hydrogen Peroxide inhalation for COPD
Hello, My name is Maggie and I live in Massachusetts. I am writing because I finally decided to take a chance on inhaling hydrogen peroxide for my COPD. I have been sick every Winter since I was 26 (16 years). I have tried diet change, steroids, antibiotics, supplements (with some success) and every other alternative offered to me. I have used your website for other ailments, but thought this was a little crazy. However, I have been using this method for 3 weeks and have NEVER felt this good in the Winter. I have also stopped using my rescue inhaler (down from 6-7 times a day) and am not taking any medications. I will be personally sending an email to Bill Munro, who is now my hero. Just when I finally began to accept that I was going to be another statistic (surviving as many Winters as I could handle until my disease did me in, as it did my father), a miracle falls into my lap! I will do this treatment for the rest of my life and I will recommend it to EVERYONE who ever complains to me of bronchitis, asthma, or any other form of COPD. I would be happy to talk to anyone who has questions or needs to speak to a real person. They can email me any time at Maggz129@aol.com. Thank you Earth Clinic and thank you Bill Munroe for giving me a chance to live my life, instead of biding my time!!!"
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[YEA] 08/01/2010: Joan from Brooklyn, New York: "I have emphysema. I get tested every 6 months to check the oxygen in my lungs.. Before I inhaled 3% peroxide my test prove my COPD was getting worse... But this time, after inhaling peroxide for three weeks my lungs have greatly improved. My pulmonologist was impressed at the technician's report that he tested me on difficult state of the art machines that measure the capacity of air in each test and he indeed reported much better than the previous three years.
I didn't tell her what I was doing. I was afraid she would try and stop me... Joan"
08/15/2010: Jgp from Industry, Pa Usa replies: "Joan from NY; what concentrations are you using? Thanks jgp pa"
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[YEA] 08/04/2009: George from Bedford, Tx: "After living with COPD for several years my condition recently got worst to the point that I could barely manage simple chores like taking out the garbage. 2 wks ago my Pulmonary Doctor told me to use Oxygen 24/7 and to use an Albuterol inhaler twice a day and as needed for emergencies.
A few days later I had a serious incident from trying to climb some stairs,and almost passed out. The next day I had another incident from a minor exertion. I believe that an angel must have directed me to the earthclinic web site because I found the Hydrogen Peroxide treatment there. I am lucky enough to have a better system to administer the Hydrogen Peroxide than using asquirt bottle. I have a machine for my Sleep Apnea where I sleep with a mask that covers my nose and mouth and the machine provides positive air pressure to keep my wind pipe open. The machine also has a water tank of about 6 oz to keep the air moisturized.
I began my treatment with standard drug store 3% Hydrogen Peroxide, and dialuted it 50/50 with filtered water. I braethed that mixture for 8 hours that night and in the morning my lungs were clear. I didn't have the usual coughing fit to clear my lungs of mucus. The next night I used a 30% mixture instead of 50% and the results were just as good. I stopped using my hand held inhalers entierly. I again cut the dose down to 20% and still had the great results.
On the 10th day I awoke with so much energy that I changed the bed sheets, vacuumed the floor and cleaned the bath room. 2 weeks before this I could barely walk across the room.
The Peroxide treatment is a blessing to me."
Replies09/04/2009: Jody from Tyler, Tx replies: "George, I am happy that you've had such good results with the h202. I had previously tried Bill Munro's method of inhaling while spraying from a nasal spray bottle. I was already sick at the time and that method caused a deal of irritation in my lungs--perhaps the spray droplets were too large, don't know. Anyway, I ended up in hospital...I was also trying to nebulize some colloidal silver----desperate to get rid of the infection.
I'm currently at the stage of copd where one infection follows on the heels of the last one.
I'm a bit afraid to try the h202...do you think it would be ok to use some in my nebulizer and if so should I also have the albuterol in there or just h202 and water? I also have an oxygen concentrator with a moisturizer bottle on it...not sure of the measure..looks like about 8 0z...would that be a good way to inhale it?
Thanks for any help you might give me."
10/12/2009: Patricia from Flower Mound, Tx replies: "I have COPD that started to get worse when I moved into an apartment with a bad mold problem. My condition has deteriorated so much in the last year that I'm on oxygen 24/7, despite the fact that the physiology of my lung tissue hasn't changed, according to a CAT scan in 2003 and another one six years later. I suspect aspergillus, but could be wrong. My doctor did a blood test and says it was negative.
Anyway, I've tried about everything including a psychic naturopath, except the H2O2 therapy. I made an appointment with a Doctor in Fort Worth who does it intravenously. These treatments are expensive, and I have no insurance since my insurer rescinded my policy when I was in treatment for kidney cancer [which fortunately the recent CAT scan for my lung caught in an early stage], so I don't want to do this unless it will help or if there is a less expensive way to get the job done.
Has anyone taken the H2O2 by mouth. If so, how much, how often and how long before results. What were the results, if any. I'm a little afraid of the inhaled therapy because of the condition of my lungs already, or does anyone have advice for me? I'm a writer and a filmmaker and this oxygen thing is totally limiting my life."
10/15/2009: George from Bedford, Tx replies: "Jody from Tyler Tx has asked about doses and how to administer Hydrogen Peroxide. I can only tell about my experiance and cannot make any recomendations to anyone else. I use it primarily in am Sleep Apnia mask [PAP]. I use a solution strength of about 20%. That is 1/4 cup H2O2 to 1 cup of Distiled water. I breath it all night and if my lungs feel a little irritated I add another half cup water to make it about 15%.I also use my nebulizer one or two times a day and there I use a 50% strength for about 3 min.
I believe I am killing all the bacteria, mold and fungus in my lungs as I don't have any more coughing or mucus since the first day I tried H2O2.
My Pulmanologist, Cardiologist, and my Gen Practioner are all amzazed at my improvment. None of them have ever heard of inhaling H2O2 before.
Good luck and let me know how you are doing at my email address"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 11/04/2009: Dixie from Lake City, Florida replies: "We need to keep this alive. I just found this site. I used 35%food grade HP for the schedule and it gave me more energy and then stupid me slacked off. I need to go back to it. Anyway I have COPD and lately I can barely walk to the bathroom because I can't breathe from long time smoking, so I have been reading this. I tried Bill's method of putting 3%HP in a pump bottle undiluted. Then I put 3mg in my nebulizer and it's kinda strong so guess you can cut it with water. Now I'm using 35% food grade 1 drop per 2oz distilled water and then putting 3mg in nebulizer. Cheaper then using an oxygen tank I think and did give me instant relief so guess I'm going to do this about every two hrs and see how it goes then I probably will start the schedule back over which is 3 drops three x's a day then increasing one drop every day until you get to 25 drops then you taper back down to only using 5 drops per week"
11/27/2009: Hobbit From The Shire from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada replies: "I have a friend struggling with COPD. He is willing to give the H202 in the sleep apnea mask a try. I would appreciate if I could get an email address for George from Bedford, Tx in regards to the H202 he used. Was it Food Grade, or the regular. And would like to know how George is doing these days?
My email address is Shoshannah30@yahoo.com
Thank you!!"
EC: Hi, we can't give you George's email address, but we did just email your message to him so hopefully you will hear back from him!
04/29/2010: Bharat from Faridabad, Haryana, India replies: "My father is suffering from COPD (chronic bronchitis and chronic emphysema), he is 57 years old and weighs around 40 kg.He was told about it 6 years back in 2004 untill when he was a chain smoker and left it then only.His fev1 count is only 17%.He used 35% food grade HP orally according to the given schedule but as soon as he reached 18 drops he felt some extreme symptoms like nausea, headache along with extreme weakness. His heart beat went high up-to 130 bpm and thus he just slacked off on it. He can barely walk and even find it difficult to eat food. I just wanted to ask what is the solution to such extreme symptoms because we don't want to quit so easily as there are not much options left after HP. Another query i had in my mind was that can anyone tell me that among either oral and inhalation method which one shows better and quick results?"
04/30/2010: Alain from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada replies: "Answer to Bharat from Faridabad
With H2O2 we have to go slowly. If 18 drops is too much because of detox effect, just reduce it to a comfortable level. Than increase only after a while. You don't have to go as fast as a chart. Those charts are just guidelines.
The max recommended concentration for internal use is 0.5%. But even 1/10 of it can help. There are also other ways, like Baths with H2O2 and Epsom salt, or Bill Munro's inhalation method. People react differently to different concentration. When too much just reduce.
I posted something here with a lot of info but you can find the exact same info there http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1586256#i
Good Luck
Alain"
05/05/2010: Bharat from Faridabad, Haryana, India replies: "Thank you Alain.I really appreciate your effort .Can you please tell me if is it possible that food grade Hydrogen Peroxide when taken orally reduces the spo2 level in blood.I am asking this because for the past 3 -4 days we are noticing a quick decrease in spo2 levels of my father even when oxygen is been taken externally.
Can it be assumed as a possible side effect of hydrogen peroxide since his fev1 count is only 17%?"
05/07/2010: Alain from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada replies: "Response to Bharat from Faridaba
Hi
Sorry, I cannot answer satisfactorily to your quesstion, because I am not at all familiar with the test you are talking about. But I did some quick searches and I have a few thoughts I would like to share with you.
First, you did not explained how the oxygen was taken externally. Was is peroxyde? And how?
To get back to my previous post about dosages. Consider that 18 drops of FG h2o2 in a glass of water is not the same for a man of 40Kg as for a man of 80Kg or 120Kg.
I suspect that your father is very weak and has digestion problems. So, maybe the 18 drops is even more demanding because of his weakness. H2O2 will create detox symptoms. So it is good to have something to improve the elimination of the liberated toxins. Those "toxins" are not from the h2o2 but from the body trying to get rid of them by being helped with the h2o2.
So, it might be better that food are any supplements be taken in smaller portions but more often.
Something that might help greatly is the taking of pro-biotics on a daily basis. The more I read about pro-biotic bacteria for the colon the more I thing it is a vital element in helping in the recovery to any illness.
If you read EC pages on COPD and do a search on the web you will find that many have been helped by DMSO, and MSM. First, DMSO is very closed chemically to MSM.
MSM can be obtained naturally from food. But can be easily destroyed by processing foods.
MSM is better utilized by the body if taken with glucosamine sulfate and the chondroitin sulfate. MSM is a compound with sulfur as so are the two other sulfates.
It has been shown that magnesium and magnesium sulfate can help asthma. Here we go again with a sulfate.
There is an easy and cheap way to get magnesium and sulfur in the form of sulfate. It is with Epsom salt (Magnesium sulfate). It is cheap and easy to buy in North America. I don't know about your part of the country.
Two ways I know how to benefit from Epsom Salt (ES). Internally and from baths. Internally, a pinched of ES with meals or beverages. Coincidentally, a bath of ES can be enhanced and alkalizing with some h2o2. Here is a good link about such baths http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1614147#i
Magnesium will also help the liver and kidneys in digesting proteins.
So, IMO you should have a multi-facet approach. Improvement of digestion, improvement of nutrition. Smaller portion but more frequent. Supplementation of MSM and or magnesium sulfate. Alkalizing baths.
So much can be said about alkalizing.
I could have put a lot more in the form of supporting links and text extracts that would better help what I said above.
Health can be restored but it will take time.
A simple advice-Stop doing what makes us sick and start what makes us healthy.
Good luck
Alain"
05/07/2010: Vicki from New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand replies: "Answer To Bharat From Faridabad. Hi from New Zealand. My father, who is 84 and has had emphysema for over 20 years, has been using some drops that I got for him from a large online supplement supplier in America. I can't say the name of the product on this site, but if you Google "Natural Microdose DNA" you will find info about the product. Dad uses ONE drop FOUR times a day. It isn't very expensive to buy. I think it works by thinning the mucus. Dad has been using it for about six weeks, and it's the first of the MANY "natural" remedies that we've tried that's helped him. Unfortunately he's still using all his puffers at this stage,but the drops have made a huge difference in his comfort level. He is able to go for walks outside and do light chores around the house, which he hasn't been able to do for ages. A big difference is in how long it takes him to recover from breathless episodes. Now, he gets his breath back almost immediately, instead of spending five minutes gasping for air. He's really happy about that!! He has had a peak flow meter for several years now and it has always been around 160 to 170 maximum, but now it averages about 190 and several times has been over 200, which has never happened before. So, while this hasn't been the miracle cure that I have been looking for, it has made a BIG difference to Dad's quality of life, and,at the moment, he is progressing instead of getting worse. Hopefully after he has been using the drops for several months he'll have made further progress. The only negative comment I have to make about the product is that it"s really difficult to get the drops out of the bottle - I have to put it in another bottle for Dad to use. Later on I'm also going to get him some black elderberry (there's an interesting post on here about that), but for now we're seeing how much he improves by using the drops alone. Kind Regards, Vicki."
11/19/2010: K from Good Ole, Usa replies: "I tried to google that and did not come up with a company that sells that product. Can you give me more information regarding the Natural Microdose DNA. Thank you."
02/27/2011: Barbara from Moreno Valley, Ca replies: "For K from Good Ole, Usa regarding "Natural Microdose DNA". This is Mucolyxir and is made by NutriCology. It can be obtained online at many vitamin sites and in health food stores."
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[YEA] 02/20/2008: Joe from Wedgeport Nova Scotia , Canada: "I was getting phumonia two or three times a year and that eventually turned into a disease called copd.Severe bronchitis so off to the doctor AGAIN and they sell me more and more drugs AGAIN puffers and machines with mists and nose sprays and no cure just slowly dying not much of a life until one day on the computer I see your hydrogen peroxide page and can't believe something like this thats been around for a hundred years or more could possible work but would try about anything at this time so started spraying 3% hydrogen peroxide in my mouth and within two days started spitting up stuff you only see in horror movies and within a week and a half I was a different person altogether I could breath again and my lungs were clear something I haven't seen for many years. I haven't felt this good in years thank-you soooo very much for this information and please keep up the fantastic work Your friend for life Joe"
Replies09/27/2008: Debbie from St. Petersburg, FL replies: "THIS QUESTION IS FOR JOE FROM CANADA. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS COPD REAL BAD AND SHE IS WANTING TO TRY THE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE INHALTION. DO YOU MIX THIS WITH PART WATER OR JUST USE IT LIKE IT IS?AND WHAT DO YOU PUT IT IN TO MAKE IT MIST?"
EC: Read much more about the H202 inhalation technique here: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/hydrogen_peroxide_inhalation.html
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MOLD IN YOUR BUILDING
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[YEA] 03/30/2008: Nicole from Chicago, IL: "I wanted to say that if people have extremely chronic respiratory or nervous conditions, they ought to find out if they are living or working in a moldy building. Nothing cures that but getting out or fixing the problem in the house!"
Replies02/25/2010: Terry from Plano, Tx replies: "Mold (even black mold) is easily gotten rid of by making a spray from MMS (miracle mineral solution) and spraying it on the mold. The mold will die within 1 hour. It's great."
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MSM
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01/04/2011: Jerroll from Humble, Texas, Usa: "Evedently Ted is too busy. Could you tell me if putting MSM in a nebulizer or a spray bottle would be safe or would even help COPD?Thank you in advance, Jerroll Fry in Humble, TX USA"
Replies01/05/2011: Alvina from Eagle Creek, Oregon replies: "I put 1/4 c of 3% hydrogen peroxide in 1/2 gal. of distilled water in my vaperizor and inhale through the mouth 10 times twice a day and a few times through the nose also. I was in pretty bad shape a few months ago but now I'm able to do so much more without losing my ability to breath. For months I also took 1/4 t. of celery seed (a natural diaretic), tea made with 1/4 t. Lobelia, 1 t. of Mullein and 1 t. Hyssop twice a day. I also started taking MSM and cayanne pepper, which I still do. I don't need the tea anymore. I have to limit my intake of dairy and mold and pollen is still a challenge, but being 90% better is great."
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[YEA] 09/21/2009: Kim from Birmingham, England: "I have been taking MSM for a while now and I have to say my asthma/COPD is much improved. However, MSM does contain sulphates which some individuals may be sensitive to and may cause some side effects. I have read from a very good source that this can be largely overcome by taking a supplementation of molybedenum(500mcg). Hope this helps."
Replies11/06/2009: Dixie from Lake City, Florida replies: "Could you please tell me how to use this? The dosages"
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MULTIPLE REMEDIES
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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 04/07/2012: Rev. Concetta from Warren, Mi: "Dear Earth Clinic, I wanted to share my story with you, your readers as I have found your site very useful-
I smoked for over twenty years and in 2004 was diagnosed with COPD, I stopped smoking, changed my diet, and got on with life- In 2007 my health began a fairly steady decline, I would go to work and feel fatigued, constant headaches, loss of appetitie- I truly thought I was dying and hopeless, I found earth clinic and tried the H2O2 diluted in water, now for me this paticular cure did not seem to help, though I know it has for many- By 2009 I was in a terrible state, not only with the COPD but with the addition of Multiple Chemical Sensetivity, after exposure to my workplace I would get headaches so severe that I would sleep for 12 to 14 hours, I had intense leg muscle pain, sinus problems, fatigue... Oh it went on and on- I was fired from my job, even though I requested accomodations, I requested that air fresheners, perfumes be banned and that I would be notified when spraying pesticides, and the use of organic cleaning solutions... After three years working for a state funded non-profit, I was let go because they did not want to trample on other people's rights to be fragrant or become the perfume police- Now I am out of work and sick, had to apply for disability, because I could not find a non toxic work environment, I could not work outside as the cold took my breath away and walking any distance was out of the question- So after 3 bouts of Pnuemonia in two years, being placed on three different inhalers I still felt awful- I had to make a choice to die like this or to find something that would help- After much research and trial and error, realizing that every cure does not work for everyone (DON"T GIVE UP! ) I have found a good combination for my body- I take;
Vitamin C 1000 mg 1 tab 3x a day Super Cayenne 100,000 HU 1 tab 3x a day Full spectrum Mullein Leaf 500 mg 1tab 2x a day Ashwagandha 450 mg 2 caps 1x a day Swanson's Lung Essentials 2 caps 2x per day Calcium w/Mag and Vitamin D 1,000 mg 2 caps 2x per day Marshmallow Root 500 mg 1 cap 1x per day Capsicum w/ eucalyptus nasal spray 2x per day Tumeric 1/4 spoon dissolved in warm milk 3x per week Juiced garlic mixed with apple cider vinegar and honey a shot mixed with warm water 1x per day
I plan on adding MSM to this mix-
So it has been two weeks in and the difference is notable, I can breathe much easier, I can walk further, I can clean my house without having to sit down every five minutes, I feel I have more energy, return of appetite, better sleep, headaches are gone, sinus problems, pressure, running nose, are slight and I think I have less senstivity to chemical fragrances, I'm still testing this but will keep you updated- I am still taking my inhalers as prescribed, but may attempt to cut down usage and see how that goes... I hope this may serve to offer hope to someone else suffering, there is a way, you just have to find what works for you- Much Love and Many Blessings-"
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NATURAL MICRODOSE DNA
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05/26/2010: Robert from Martinez, Ca: "For those with C.O.P.D. & other respiratory ailments, please check research on 'natural microdose DNA' which is not a product name but a natural substance with research & use for humans & also in the veterinary fields. The price for the product is very reasonable for its effectiveness & is available to all as it is not a drug."
Replies[YEA] 05/27/2010: Vicki from New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand replies: "Hi everybody. I'd like support what Robert said about Natural Microdose DNA. I've got an earlier post about my father using this product for his emphysema. He's improving all the time. His peak flow meter has risen even further from my previous post, written three weeks ago. It's now rarely below 200 and several times has been 220. He made more rapid progress when he started putting the drops underneath his tongue instead of on top of his tongue as he had been doing. I've just ordered another bottle from iherb.com. It costs me $NZ60 for one bottle plus courier to New Zealand, which only takes six days. Of course, this would be less in US dollars. A bottle lasts about two months at the normal dose, so it's pretty cheap, especially for something that actually works!! Obviously, other places sell it, apart from iherb.com, but if you go to their site and put "Natural Microdose DNA" or "Salmon DNA" in the search box, the product will come up and you will be able to read some very positive customer reviews about it. I hope it can help some of you with respiratory conditions, like it is helping Dad.
All the best,
Vicki"
10/21/2010: Linda from Jefferson City, Mo U.s.a. replies: "I am sending this to Vicki from New Zealand and the natural microdose DNA that she purchased for her father. I went to http://www.iherb.com and could not find it. I did email them and told them that I needed some assistance in locating this product. They emailed me back and said that they could not find it either. I really would like to try some. Could you advise what to do next? I hope your father is doing wonderful. He does not know how lucky he is to have a caring, loving person there to help him out. You go girl!!! Thanks Linda "
11/19/2010: K from Good Ole, Usa replies: "Try typing in Salmon DNA like I did. She said to search for it that way. I found it. Good luck."
11/21/2010: Warren from Costa Mesa, Calif., Usa replies: "Google Mucolyxir. There you have your Natural Microdose DNA"
[YEA] 01/31/2011: Pattianne from Federal Way, Washington, Usa replies: "After numerous searches & great difficulty I found this product... Called Mucolyxir from an organic pharmacy in NC. High daily dose of D3 (do get tested! ), a garlic/habanero pepper tincture, systemic enzymes and daily exercise have kept me pneumonia free for the first year in over 10 yrs. This is a blessing and I hope you find yours! Not all products work for all people."
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NEBULIZER TREATMENT
07/07/2011: Robert from Nokomis, Florida/ Usa: "I have COPD (emphysema). You mention Tes about cayene peppers, mullim & etc. Do you mix this for inhalation? When I do my nebulizer treatment what do I mix to get the Avioli working and excrete the junk! Now I do a regular nebuliser treatment with 0.83 albuterol. I do inhale eculyptus in the moring from its bottle. What else? I do Advair and spiriva... That is for everybody I guess. Help Me Please, Bob"
Replies07/08/2011: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "read up on h2o2 inhalation, here on this site."
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OIL PULLING
11/17/2010: Jerroll from Humble, Texas,usa: "I've just started OP with Sunflower oil. I have been told that I have COPD with 1/4 decrease in lung function. Has anyone been helped with OP ? If so what oil should I use?"
Replies11/18/2010: Livia from The Woodlands, Tx replies: "Based on all I've read about OP'ing, you may have to try different oils to find what works best for you. I also wanted to mention a couple of other possibly useful aids: one is serrapeptase, which is a supplement that dissolves fibrotic lesions in the body. Some folks with copd'ers are breathing more easily since using that. Be careful if you tend to bleed easily, though, or are taking a blood thinner. The other idea is to find a breathing technique that works for you. Life Lift and Bodyflex are two funny-looking ones that can help a lot. Fine for most people, unless you have high blood pressure or glaucoma, (or are pregnant, which I'm thinking doesn't apply to you). I've seen a demo of the bodyflex breath on youtube before. The life lift version is slower and gentler (the bodyflex founder learned it from the life lift lady, actually. )
Basically, you gently blow all the air out of your lungs through your mouth, as if blowing through a tube... A martial arts article explained that there are multiple benefits to doing it this way, btw... Then a big inhale through the nose (smile to open up your nostrils to their widest), hold a second or three, then blast the air out, and pop your lips as you say "Paaaaaaaah. " It isn't vocalized, it's just air. Then you hold your breath and suck in your gut as if rolling up your abs. In fact, there is a yoga move like this. Hold your breath. With practice, you will feel the suction as you do it, and when you release the air and hear a sucky sound. Hold as long as you feel comfortable holding your breath, but you don't need to go longer than a count of eight or so, and repeat. Fifteen minutes a day should dramatically help oxygenation and lung flexibility. If you have contraindications for that sort of breathing, then incorporating any gentler, intentional breathing exercises into your day should be a must on your daily to-do list."
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REMEDIES NEEDED
11/20/2011: Sheila from Worcester, Ma: "I was diagnosed with COPD mild to moderate, about a month ago. I was given an inhaler combivent, and see the DOC in 3 months. I FEEL AT A LOSS AS TO WHAT TO DO! All I HEAR IS CHRONIC! I HAVEN'T SMOKED IN SIX YEARS WHAT CAN I DO TO improve my condition or at the very least stabalize it? I GET A DIFFERENT STORY from natural food stores; THEY TRY TO SELL ME EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN WITH NO REGARD HOW DIFFERENT HERBS WILL REACT WITH OTHERS WHERE DO I Start? NOT short of BREATH, BUT I DO FEEL PRESSURE ON MY abdomen. Doc told me to lose weight. Any feedback would be appreciated.
sheila"
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03/22/2011: Colin from Armagh, Northern Ireland: "what are dmso and msn and where do you get it from for copd?"
Replies03/23/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "I have read a couple of good books on MSM which also mention DMSO. I will try to post the reviews on the book section as soon as I can. Both give you a lot of information."
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07/26/2010: Tim from Ashland, Ky: "My father has severe COPD with other complications; he takes heart medicine, diuretics' for retaining fluid and has been on oxygen 24/7 for over 10 years. He can't walk no more than about 12 steps before gasping for air. He also has really thick secretions of phlegm. I use the H202 morning and night and I can tell significant differences in breathing, energy and less back pain. I'm 48 and he is 73. He was a smoker since age 10 and myself for 32 years before quitting. What would you suggest to give him some relief?"
Replies03/26/2011: Pat721 from Alpine, Tn replies: "Tim, Will try to keep this short. I've had COPD past 6 yrs. Have recently tried h2o2 internally from 3 drops to 25 drops (which was just too strong) stopped taking - mistake - back on 10 drops in small glass of juice. Also taking internally through nebulizer. Not doing physicians prescribed nebulizer medicine. Not coubhing anything up - never did.You might want to try your dad on the nebulizer once in awhile - but I prefer the h2o2 over other.
As for getting sick - we (husband and I) don't. We take in orally 3 drops of oil when ever we go out in public. We also take lots and lots of supplements
Another important point - a MUST - you and your dad need to do the breathing exercises described a little bit above your post of 7/6/10
Next you and your dad need to exercise. I use cans of vegies as weights to exercise my arms. I'm planning on purchasing a mini stationary bike for inhouse exercises. If you have any questions or comments email me at pfhpersonal(at)hotmail(dot)com"
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12/09/2009: Taylor from Sydney, Nsw, Australia: "My aunty has COPD very severely and has never touched a cigarette in her life. Your research is very helpful but unfortunately not for us. She has had to move very far from her family just so the air is better for her and has been told she has got between 3 months and a year left. Her lungs are at 34% and when she gets to 30% she will need to be on oxygen every day. A lung transplant is also out of the question as she is too sick to go through the operation. I don't know very much about the disease but i know there isn't a cure yet. Hopefully one day there will be!"
Replies12/13/2009: Dott from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, Usa replies: "Supplemental magnesium may help your auntie some. I know that I have read of its usefullness for asthma, and other lung ailments.."
04/30/2010: Clarence from Dilley, Texas replies: "Elderberry concentrate works wonders. Israel is using this to prolong life of those infected with aids and is using it for lung ailments. Dad has improved dramatically with his copd, breathing becomes easier within 5 minutes of taking one teaspoonful every two to four hours. My wife and son both have asthma. We have used elderberry for 3 years now with wonderful results."
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08/27/2009: Michael H from Grankulla, Nyland, Finland: "COPD
Hi my name is Michael and I'm living in Finland.
I yesterday was told that I will ASAP have to prepare for lung transplant...
Dear god of what I hear only 40 % here make it and then after...
So last night I was searching for cures and came across this page - WONDERFULL.
Please tell me did anyone get so much better that they could avoid a transplant?
And maybe even get better????
I'd love to be able to share ...even on phone or Skype with persons who have
any positive results....like Ted (Is all well, I'd like to know)
I must admit that I only understand half of what Ted's experience is
All about but am willing to learn, as the other option is close.
Thanks
Michael H"
01/13/2010: Panamagirl from Lol, Fl, Usa replies: "Just wanted to see how you were doing. Did you try the H202. Or did you get the transplant? Please let me know. I hope all is well. Sincerely, Panamagirl"
03/12/2011: Deckers1 from Sterling, Co, Usa replies: "I am not into huffing H2O2 but I did a blog on COPD after my mother was diagnosed with it. She has been doing fine since 2007 when she was hospitalized and nearly died. I went to College for 7 years and majored in Chemistry and Engineering, plus studied Microbiology prior to my mother's hospitalization.
My blog with over 100 pages of information on Emphysema is at : www.savetheeconomydotcom.wordpress.comLeave a message if you read it and any of the over 100 ideas and updates help you out any. I know it is far more controversial than this website, but I thought it might change somebody's luck and help.
Good luck;
Andy"
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SEA SALT
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[YEA] 12/14/2009: Rv from Huntington Beach, Ca, USA: "Sea Salt for Pneumonia
I have (usually) mild asthma. I visited a dusty wildflower area and contracted fungal pneumonia. The doctor did not apply effective antibiotics, because the infection was fungal, and he initially misdiagnosed it. The infection continued for weeks, and hardened into chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Over the next year I tried many remedies. Then I found an interesting fact. The ocean has millions of antibacterial virions per liter. This is why there are so few bacteria there: predation. I live in an oceanside city, and have no problem getting clean, fresh seawater. I spat some infected sputum into a bottle of seawater and diluted it to invisibility. The idea was that any virus would rapidly multiply by killing and eating the bacteria of my infection. Then over a week, I sprayed the water and inhaled it. My coughing got worse, but then air began to penetrate past the blockages and I began to cough them up; some looked like french fries. I'm now healthy.
I think a similar effort might work with artificial seawater made from organic sea salt. The idea is that it must be organic so that the antibacterial virions would need to be preserved in the salt."
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THYME
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[YEA] 03/15/2007: Brenda from San Antonio, Texas: "My 79 year old Mother had an upper respiratory infection. She could not shake the cough. I had recently read an article that said steep 1 teaspoon of your kitchen variety thyme in a cup of hot water, as you would a teabag, and sip. She tried it and it worked. Encouraged, I told my friend who has the start of COPD about it, she tried it and is amazed also. The article stated it relaxes the bronchials. Yet another alternative."
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WEBSITES OF INTEREST
09/19/2009: Sayer from Bonita Springs, Fl: "I've spent the past year looking for natural remedies for COPD with clinical support off the government biomedical database known as MEDLINE. Ginseng, Licorice and Turmeric are only a few of dozens of natural substances which who great promise. I've collated and reposted these studies on the following non-profit website for your viewers to have full access to. http://www.greenmedinfo.com/category/diseases/chronic-obstructive-pulmonary-disease"
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